Verne in Ukraine???

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quentin skrabec

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Apr 9, 2024, 6:43:37 PMApr 9
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This month, there was a news release for Ukraine about an 1892 visit to the famous meteorite site by Jules Verne. Any confirmation? Does anybody have info on this??? (https://goloskarpat.info/eng/society/66143eb50902f/)

In 1866 in the village Knjahinya of Transcarpathian region has fallen meteorite, also known as “Princess’ or “Knjahinya”. This meteorite has not reached the Earth crumbled into small pieces in a large area. After the fall were collected about thousands of parts with a total weight of about 500 kg, which went to many, mainly European museums. The main part now is kept at the Vienna Museum of Natural History (Natural History Museum in Vienna).

 

There are news reports of expeditions in the 1800s to document the site.

 

Actual drawings from 1866 observations from a different reference.

 

Knyahinya Meteorite Fall - Public domain drawing - PICRYL ... 

A blue book with a blue cover

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Jules Verne himself visited the site of its fall in 1892. Later, the science fiction author described the explosive event in his next novel "Chasing a Meteorite". Which brought Verne considerable fame. The nature of Transcarpathia was also reflected in another novel by Jules Verne "Castle in the Carpathians". This is confirmed by an information poster in Nevytsky Castle in Uzhhorod district. The fantastic horror novel is a geographical and ethnographic echo of the events in the Carpathians, described by the author in the 1880s. The historical and romantic flavor of real social events in some European countries is complemented by the author's sci-fi predictions.” (see above reference.)  Does anyone have any other confirming evidence that Verne visited?

 

jacques....@laposte.net

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Apr 10, 2024, 2:28:39 AMApr 10
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I could not find any confirmation of such a travel in 1892. By that time,
Jules Verne's health has declined and he was no longer travelling so much.
1892 was the year "Le Château des Carpathes" was published. Perhaps the
confusion is coming from this.

Jacques Crovisier


 
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Any comments????

This month, there was a news release for Ukraine about an 1892 visit to the famous meteorite site by Jules Verne. Any confirmation? Does anybody have info on this??? (https://goloskarpat.info/eng/society/66143eb50902f/)

In 1866 in the village Knjahinya of Transcarpathian region has fallen meteorite, also known as “Princess’ or “Knjahinya”. This meteorite has not reached the Earth crumbled into small pieces in a large area. After the fall were collected about thousands of parts with a total weight of about 500 kg, which went to many, mainly European museums. The main part now is kept at the Vienna Museum of Natural History (Natural History Museum in Vienna).

 

There are news reports of expeditions in the 1800s to document the site.

 

Actual drawings from 1866 observations from a different reference.

 

 

 

Jules Verne himself visited the site of its fall in 1892. Later, the science fiction author described the explosive event in his next novel "Chasing a Meteorite". Which brought Verne considerable fame. The nature of Transcarpathia was also reflected in another novel by Jules Verne "Castle in the Carpathians". This is confirmed by an information poster in Nevytsky Castle in Uzhhorod district. The fantastic horror novel is a geographical and ethnographic echo of the events in the Carpathians, described by the author in the 1880s. The historical and romantic flavor of real social events in some European countries is complemented by the author's sci-fi predictions.” (see above reference.)  Does anyone have any other confirming evidence that Verne visited?

 

 

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RFOG

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Apr 10, 2024, 12:06:30 PMApr 10
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I think there is no “confusion” but will to correlate Verne with anything, like the pretended trip to the Mediterranean that appeared some time ago in Spanish newspapers, completely invented. 

quentin skrabec

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Apr 10, 2024, 1:29:50 PMApr 10
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thank you – agree but continue to dig 

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Apr 10, 2024, 1:47:38 PMApr 10
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Greetings,

I was also doubtful if only on health grounds. I did wonder if Michel
might have travelled there instead.

On the other hand, I know that, in Québec, people believed for years,
down to the 1980s, that Jules Verne had visited Québec (whereas he
only set foot
in Canada, once, near Niagara Falls, for a few minutes or a bit
longer. I've never bothered to track down the source of the myth
(which might be of
recent vintage), but it seems typical, and of a piece with this Ukrainian claim.

Jean-Louis Trudel

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quentin skrabec

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Apr 10, 2024, 1:57:04 PMApr 10
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thank you – good point the timing and books noted rise the possibility, Micheal 

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