Hell No !!!!!!!! not another question on Begum's Millions

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quentin skrabec

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Aug 29, 2025, 4:07:56 PMAug 29
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There is an unusual connection between Krupp and Verne’s understanding and use of puddling.  In Verne’s description of puddling, he mentions the use of “Chernoff’s rules,” which is a scientific detail that few would have known in 1879, except for metallurgists in a steelworks. Chernoff is clearly a misspelling of Russian metallurgist Dmitry Chernov. Chernov, in 1868, after studying the production of heavy guns at Obukhovsky Steel Foundry, published a paper in Russian on the necessary temperature control in puddling furnaces.  The 1869 publication of this article is considered the date of the transformation of metallurgy from an art into a science[i].


[i]  A. F. Golovin,  "The centennial of D. K. Chernov's discovery of polymorphous transformations in steel 1868–1968". Metal Science and Heat Treatment.  May 1968, 10 (5) pp. 335–340. 

William Butcher

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Aug 29, 2025, 7:47:12 PMAug 29
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It's not necessarily a misspelling, could just be a French transcription.
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There is an unusual connection between Krupp and Verne’s understanding and use of puddling.  In Verne’s description of puddling, he mentions the use of “Chernoff’s rules,” which is a scientific detail that few would have known in 1879, except for metallurgists in a steelworks. Chernoff is clearly a misspelling of Russian metallurgist Dmitry Chernov. Chernov, in 1868, after studying the production of heavy guns at Obukhovsky Steel Foundry, published a paper in Russian on the necessary temperature control in puddling furnaces.  The 1869 publication of this article is considered the date of the transformation of metallurgy from an art into a science[i].


[i]  A. F. Golovin,  "The centennial of D. K. Chernov's discovery of polymorphous transformations in steel 1868–1968". Metal Science and Heat Treatment.  May 1968, 10 (5) pp. 335–340. 

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quentin skrabec

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Aug 29, 2025, 9:09:30 PMAug 29
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thanks
I seen this before---Russian noff ending in a name  written as nov in French — does that make sense ?

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Christian Sánchez

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Aug 29, 2025, 11:17:36 PMAug 29
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In the same vein, Michel Strogoff should be transcribed as Michael Strogov — but who dares?

Tad Davis

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The recent Australian edition of the novel (a translation by Stephanie Smee) was published as Mikhail Strogoff. (I found it quite enjoyable, by the way.)

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Don Sample

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Aug 30, 2025, 12:44:14 PMAug 30
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Especially considering that the “correct” spelling of his name is Дмитрий Чернов.

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quentin skrabec

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Aug 30, 2025, 1:02:56 PMAug 30
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Ok now  getting confused - mis spelling or translation — do you have any doubt that it is not Dmitry Chernov
There is no doubt in my mind - Chernov the metallurgist who in 1869 defined the science of puddling - of course few this in 1879 

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quentin skrabec

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Tad
I assume you mean who cares- i would say very few, except - except me, as i struggle through translations - some good news — its driven me to start a French class at the university-  and also pay to translate every Verne record i can get my hands on

For non speaking french Verne researcher - French is the Maginot Line

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