Anybody still using Entwine?

[Erik Terpstra]

I saw there were some updates to the github repository (fixes for jQuery 1.5 it seems):

https://github.com/hafriedlander/jquery.entwine

Is anybody still using Entwine?

[hafriedlander]

The community doesn't seem to be terribly active, but Entwine is still
heavily used at SilverStripe (my employer)

- It's used in several client-specific projects, including some
pretty large ones (for New Zealand anyway)

- It's a core component of the SilverStripe 3 CMS rewrite currently
in development

There haven't been any new features added because Entwine is pretty
much "done". Other than bug fixes and updates to keep it compatible
with new jQuery versions, there's unlikely to be significant changes
to the core. I am going to be trying to make sure Entwine stays
compatible with the latest jQuery a bit more aggressively though -
there have been times where I've lagged behind by a couple of months.

There are a few extensions, additional libraries and example code that
I'd like to do, but unlike Entwine itself those don't have any
dependent projects, just my wanting to do them, so progress has been a
little slow.

Having said that, I'm a little confused about the lack of uptake by
others. Most of the developers I know in person really like it and use
it often, so why it doesn't get much use outside SilverStripe I'm not
sure. Maybe I need a shiny website and logo :P.

Hamish Friedlander

[Erik Terpstra]

Hi Hamish,

On Friday, June 17, 2011 12:28:40 AM UTC+2, hafriedlander wrote:

... 

to the core. I am going to be trying to make sure Entwine stays 
compatible with the latest jQuery a bit more aggressively though - 
there have been times where I've lagged behind by a couple of months. 

I noticed the recent updates, really appreciate it.

There are a few extensions, additional libraries and example code that 
I'd like to do, but unlike Entwine itself those don't have any 
dependent projects, just my wanting to do them, so progress has been a 
little slow. 

What kind of extensions/addition libraries did you have in mind?

Having said that, I'm a little confused about the lack of uptake by 
others. Most of the developers I know in person really like it and use 
it often, so why it doesn't get much use outside SilverStripe I'm not 
sure. Maybe I need a shiny website and logo :P. 

The inability to send messages to this group probably didn't help ;-)

Anyway, I really like the Concrete JS pattern and Entwine is the only active framework that supports this pattern (AFAIK).

I really do think a shiny website and logo would help, we could use the Github pages feature ( http://pages.github.com/ ) for a start.

A small tutorial or some examples (somewhat like: http://arturadib.com/hello-backbonejs/docs/1.html) could also help a lot.

I also posted some Entwine examples on HackerNews, I created the examples on jsfiddle.net which allows people to play with it, for example:

http://jsfiddle.net/eterps/4Yacx/1/

Cheers,

Erik.

[Alex Hayes]

The company I work for are using it and also JS Class in a Rails
project - love it!

On Jun 22, 5:46 am, Erik Terpstra <e...@solidcode.net> wrote:
> Hi Hamish,
>
> On Friday, June 17, 2011 12:28:40 AM UTC+2, hafriedlander wrote:
>
> > ...
>
> to the core. I am going to be trying to make sure Entwine stays
>
> > compatible with the latest jQuery a bit more aggressively though -
> > there have been times where I've lagged behind by a couple of months.
>
> I noticed the recent updates, really appreciate it.
>
> There are a few extensions, additional libraries and example code that
>
> > I'd like to do, but unlike Entwine itself those don't have any
> > dependent projects, just my wanting to do them, so progress has been a
> > little slow.
>
> What kind of extensions/addition libraries did you have in mind?
>
> Having said that, I'm a little confused about the lack of uptake by
>
> > others. Most of the developers I know in person really like it and use
> > it often, so why it doesn't get much use outside SilverStripe I'm not
> > sure. Maybe I need a shiny website and logo :P.
>
> The inability to send messages to this group probably didn't help ;-)
>
> Anyway, I really like the Concrete JS pattern and Entwine is the only active
> framework that supports this pattern (AFAIK).
> I really do think a shiny website and logo would help, we could use the

> Github pages feature (http://pages.github.com/) for a start.

> A small tutorial or some examples (somewhat like:http://arturadib.com/hello-backbonejs/docs/1.html) could also help a lot.
>

> I also posted some Entwine examples on HackerNews<http://news.ycombinator.com/>,

[Erik Terpstra]

On Friday, June 17, 2011 12:28:40 AM UTC+2, hafriedlander wrote:

Having said that, I'm a little confused about the lack of uptake by
others. Most of the developers I know in person really like it and use

I think it is very important to do a little promotion for this project, this community could be a lot more active if more people have actually heard about it.

 

it often, so why it doesn't get much use outside SilverStripe I'm not
sure. Maybe I need a shiny website and logo :P.

I started work on a (shiny) website:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3897974/entwine/index.html

I am not much of a web designer, so it's created using Twitter's bootstrap framework.

I only focused on the layout thus far, most of the content is copied and pasted from the GitHub page.

In this example I decided to call the project Entwine.js instead of jQuery Entwine, in my opinion the former sounds nicer and is easier to communicate in (real life) developer discussions. 

Please let me know your thoughts about this.

If we agree to use this we can eventually host it using GitHub Pages: http://pages.github.com

Cheers,

Erik.