jpos newbie-- want to read magnetic card data in PC through POS (pegasus access controller)

[Abdul Qavi Paracha]

hi,
i've pegasus access control POS available. What i wanna do is read
data from magnetic card as it swipes through POS (card reader). I am
using PC-T100 bridge b/w Card reader and computer which converts
RS-232 protocol into TCP/IP and vice versa. I've created a web
interface (using java) for that card reader. Now i wanna read magnetic
card data in my application.

I've read ISO 8583 protocol and hve also executed ISOChannel example
which sends ISOMsg to echo server, but i m getting no idea of how to
get mag card data in my application when somebody swipes a card. Plz
do help me
regards.

[Mark Salter]

I let this message through, I think it is possible that you actually
want the javapos rather than jPos. A common mistake given the poorly
(incorrectly?) named packages of javapos.

Abdul Qavi Paracha wrote:
> hi,
> i've pegasus access control POS available. What i wanna do is read
> data from magnetic card as it swipes through POS (card reader). I am
> using PC-T100 bridge b/w Card reader and computer which converts
> RS-232 protocol into TCP/IP and vice versa. I've created a web
> interface (using java) for that card reader. Now i wanna read magnetic
> card data in my application.

The above is why I think you might want to be asking this question to
'javapos'.

Does your web interface show the magstripe data?

>
> I've read ISO 8583 protocol and hve also executed ISOChannel example
> which sends ISOMsg to echo server, but i m getting no idea of how to
> get mag card data in my application when somebody swipes a card.

This possibly fits with jPos and I'm sure it would be possible to
communicate with the device over TCP/IP using jPOS.

However the device is going to drive how you achieve what you want to do.

For instance, does the device wait for you to ask it to initiate a 'card
swipe' and then return the data read?
Or does it connect out to you when it sees a card has been swiped?

Either way is fine, but you will need to know the process protocol so
you can connect to the device or provide a server for it to connect to.

> Plz
> do help me

Not sure we can (yet), more detail is needed on your setup and perhaps
intent.

--
Mark

[Abdul Qavi]

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On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Mark Salter <marks...@talktalk.net> wrote:

I let this message through, I think it is possible that you actually
want the javapos rather than jPos. A common mistake given the poorly
(incorrectly?) named packages of javapos.

Abdul Qavi Paracha wrote:
> hi,
> i've pegasus access control POS available. What i wanna do is read
> data from magnetic card as it swipes through POS (card reader). I am
> using PC-T100 bridge b/w Card reader and computer which converts
> RS-232 protocol into TCP/IP and vice versa. I've created a web
> interface (using java) for that card reader. Now i wanna read magnetic
> card data in my application.

The above is why I think you might want to be asking this question to
'javapos'.

Does your web interface show the magstripe data?

No my web application (web application) does not show magstripe data, and actually it is what i want to do. I want to receive magstripe data as soon as somebody swipes a card.

>
> I've read ISO 8583 protocol and hve also executed ISOChannel example
> which sends ISOMsg to echo server, but i m getting no idea of how to
> get mag card data in my application when somebody swipes a card.

This possibly fits with jPos and I'm sure it would be possible to
communicate with the device over TCP/IP using jPOS.

yeah, i want my web application to communicate with the device (access controller card reader from Pegasus) over TCP/IP using jPOS, but don't know how to do this. Plz give me some hints, so that i could get start. I am totally jPOS newbie, and hve not played with it befor.
regards

However the device is going to drive how you achieve what you want to do.

For instance, does the device wait for you to ask it to initiate a 'card
swipe' and then return the data read?
Or does it connect out to you when it sees a card has been swiped?

Either way is fine, but you will need to know the process protocol so
you can connect to the device or provide a server for it to connect to.

> Plz
> do help me

Not sure we can (yet), more detail is needed on your setup and perhaps
intent.

--
Mark

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[Mark Salter]

Please at least try to answer each of my questions.

One important question you need to answer is:-

Should you be asking this question on a javapos mailing list; do you
have the wrong project? It is possible that you do!

Abdul Qavi wrote:
>> Does your web interface show the magstripe data?
>>
>
> No my web application (web application) does not show magstripe data, and
> actually it is what i want to do. I want to receive magstripe data as soon
> as somebody swipes a card.

How does the device give you access to this data?
What is the order of events in handling this device and it handling a card?

>>> I've read ISO 8583 protocol and hve also executed ISOChannel example
>>> which sends ISOMsg to echo server, but i m getting no idea of how to
>>> get mag card data in my application when somebody swipes a card.
>> This possibly fits with jPos and I'm sure it would be possible to
>> communicate with the device over TCP/IP using jPOS.
>>
> yeah, i want my web application to communicate with the device (access
> controller card reader from Pegasus) over TCP/IP using jPOS, but don't know
> how to do this. Plz give me some hints, so that i could get start. I am
> totally jPOS newbie, and hve not played with it befor.

Please give us some hints of what this hardware does and how it wants to
interact with you around a 'card swipe event'; then perhaps we can give
you hints.

Once more, please also check you are on the *right* mailing list.

--
Mark

[Abdul Qavi]

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Mark Salter <marks...@talktalk.net> wrote:

Please at least try to answer each of my questions.

 

Thnk u very very much!!!!!  for your so much cooperation. Please don't mind. It is my first time i m writing on forum.

 

One important question you need to answer is:- 

Should you be asking this question on a javapos mailing list; do you
have the wrong project?  It is possible that you do!

Sir i am writing on jPOS mailing list as i think my problem can be solved by using jPOS.

Here is complete scenario of my problem:

I've purchased Card reader from Pegasus for access control (for the purpose of security). I've installed it on main gate of university. This card reader comes along with software, but i want to integrate that device with my own application. I actually want to implement my own business logic, which is not supported in the software that comes with that card reader.

What i've done so far is i've created web application using java servlets, and i want to get ISOMsg in my web application when anybody swipes the magstripe card through card reader.

 

 

Abdul Qavi wrote:
>> Does your web interface show the magstripe data?
>>
>
> No my web application (web application) does not show magstripe data, and
> actually it is what i want to do. I want to receive magstripe data as soon
> as somebody swipes a card.

How does the device give you access to this data?

My device (card reader) is connected with PC-T100 bridge which converts RS-232 protocol to TCP/IP. Now in my web application i want to receive that ISOMsg over TCP/IP, but don't know how to accomplish it using jPOS.

 

What is the order of events in handling this device and it handling a card?

Sorry i m newbie to jPOS and i don't know. But i want to capture ISO 8583 data in my web application when card swipe event occurs.

>>> I've read ISO 8583 protocol and hve also executed ISOChannel example
>>> which sends ISOMsg to echo server, but i m getting no idea of how to
>>> get mag card data in my application when somebody swipes a card.
>> This possibly fits with jPos and I'm sure it would be possible to
>> communicate with the device over TCP/IP using jPOS.
>>
> yeah, i want my web application to communicate with the device (access
> controller card reader from Pegasus) over TCP/IP using jPOS, but don't know
> how to do this. Plz give me some hints, so that i could get start. I am
> totally jPOS newbie, and hve not played with it befor.

Please give us some hints of what this hardware does and how it wants to
interact with you around a 'card swipe event'; then perhaps we can give
you hints.

This hardware (card reader) reads the data when somebody swipes a card through it, and then it sends data to computer. Now i want to capture this data in my web application.
I hope you've reached me.

Once more, please also check you are on the *right* mailing list.

yeah i think i m on right mailing list. 

 
Thnx and best regards.

[Mark Salter]

Abdul Qavi wrote:
>> Should you be asking this question on a javapos mailing list; do you
>> have the wrong project? It is possible that you do!
>>
> Sir i am writing on jPOS mailing list as i think my problem can be solved by
> using jPOS.

Ok, good, welcome.

>
> Here is complete scenario of my problem:
>
> I've purchased Card reader from Pegasus for access control (for the purpose
> of security). I've installed it on main gate of university. This card reader
> comes along with software, but i want to integrate that device with my own
> application. I actually want to implement my own business logic, which is
> not supported in the software that comes with that card reader.
>

Ok, so not a financial exchange, 'just' for access control / tracking?

So this is magstripe based card and not chip at all?

> What i've done so far is i've created web application using java servlets,
> and i want to get ISOMsg in my web application when anybody swipes the
> magstripe card through card reader.

So this web application does not currently interact with anything and it
is this you want to address by using jPos?

>
>
>
>> Abdul Qavi wrote:
>>>> Does your web interface show the magstripe data?
>>>>
>>> No my web application (web application) does not show magstripe data, and
>>> actually it is what i want to do. I want to receive magstripe data as
>> soon
>>> as somebody swipes a card.
>> How does the device give you access to this data?
>>
> My device (card reader) is connected with PC-T100 bridge which converts
> RS-232 protocol to TCP/IP.

So do you configure the bridge connect out to a system on a port/ip address?

Will you connect to it on a port it listens on??

Is the connection made persistent with message flowing with each swipe?

or

Is a connection (from bridge to you) made each time a swipe occurs?

Is the data flow one way - any form of response back to the card reader
- "ok, open door"?

> Now in my web application i want to receive that
> ISOMsg over TCP/IP, but don't know how to accomplish it using jPOS.

The above detail will help know what jPos components are needed for this
exchange and how data might flow.

>
>
>> What is the order of events in handling this device and it handling a card?
>>
> Sorry i m newbie to jPOS and i don't know. But i want to capture ISO 8583
> data in my web application when card swipe event occurs.

As above we need to grasp what connections and data flows are need to be
supported. JPos gives us the means to do many things, picking what we
have to do is the first step.


--
Mark

[Abdul Qavi]

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Mark Salter <marks...@talktalk.net> wrote:

Abdul Qavi wrote:
>> Should you be asking this question on a javapos mailing list; do you
>> have the wrong project?  It is possible that you do!
>>
> Sir i am writing on jPOS mailing list as i think my problem can be solved by
> using jPOS.

Ok, good, welcome.

Once again thank you for your so generous support :-)

>
> Here is complete scenario of my problem:
>
> I've purchased Card reader from Pegasus for access control (for the purpose
> of security). I've installed it on main gate of university. This card reader
> comes along with software, but i want to integrate that device with my own
> application. I actually want to implement my own business logic, which is
> not supported in the software that comes with that card reader.
>

Ok, so not a financial exchange, 'just' for access control / tracking?

yeah of course, jst for access control (at initial stage, and then i'll extend its functionality)

So this is magstripe based card and not chip at all?

yeah it is magstripe card, and not chip.

> What i've done so far is i've created web application using java servlets,
> and i want to get ISOMsg in my web application when anybody swipes the
> magstripe card through card reader.

So this web application does not currently interact with anything and it
is this you want to address by using jPos?

Yeah surely, you've got my problem. My web application currently is not interacting with anything

>
>
>
>>  Abdul Qavi wrote:
>>>> Does your web interface show the magstripe data?
>>>>
>>> No my web application (web application) does not show magstripe data, and
>>> actually it is what i want to do. I want to receive magstripe data as
>> soon
>>> as somebody swipes a card.
>> How does the device give you access to this data?
>>
> My device (card reader) is connected with PC-T100 bridge which converts
> RS-232 protocol to TCP/IP.

So do you configure the bridge connect out to a system on a port/ip address?

yes i configure the bridge on a port/ip address

Will you connect to it on a port it listens on?

of course.

Is the connection made persistent with message flowing with each swipe?

or

Is a connection (from bridge to you) made each time a swipe occurs?

My web application is constantly listening on a specific port, and i want to capture the data when anybody swipes card through card reader.

Is the data flow one way - any form of response back to the card reader
- "ok, open door"?

It is not one way. I want to send a response back to the card reader--- e.g., i want to restrict people who have short attendance or who have not paid monthly fee, etc...

> Now in my web application i want to receive that
> ISOMsg over TCP/IP, but don't know how to accomplish it using jPOS.

The above detail will help know what jPos components are needed for this
exchange and how data might flow. 

Thank u so much. Your explanation has helped me a lot. NOw tell me exactly what jPOS components should i study, and what is the best place for me to start?? Or any other suggestions from your side...

>
>
>> What is the order of events in handling this device and it handling a card?
>>
> Sorry i m newbie to jPOS and i don't know. But i want to capture ISO 8583
> data in my web application when card swipe event occurs.

As above we need to grasp what connections and data flows are need to be
supported.  JPos gives us the means to do many things, picking what we
have to do is the first step.

I guess you've understood my problem. Won't you mind sending me a simple jPOS client and server program, so that i could get idea of how communication is going on b/w POS client and server. Or please tell me any good reference

Again thanks a lot and best regards

[Mark Salter]

Abdul Qavi wrote:
>>>> How does the device give you access to this data?
>>>>
>>> My device (card reader) is connected with PC-T100 bridge which converts
>>> RS-232 protocol to TCP/IP.
>> So do you configure the bridge connect out to a system on a port/ip
>> address?
>>
> yes i configure the bridge on a port/ip address

Please bear with me, I want to make sure I have this clear...

You set the bridge to listen on a port, then your web (jPos) application
will connects to the port on the bridge ready for the bridge to pass on
any swipe events that occur?

I wanted to clarify because...

> My web application is constantly listening on a specific port, and i want to
> capture the data when anybody swipes card through card reader.

This confused me, the bridge is listening, the web application will
connect and block on the read?

>
>> Is the data flow one way - any form of response back to the card reader
>> - "ok, open door"?
>>
> It is not one way. I want to send a response back to the card reader---
> e.g., i want to restrict people who have short attendance or who have not
> paid monthly fee, etc...

Do you have the message structure definition documented of these messages?

If all the above is accurate, then you will need to prepare and arrange:-

- Pick/make a Packager that defines the message structure - field
definitions and format, using the message definition (I hope you have)

***
Note this is the 'hardest' part of preparing to use jPos on a new
interface (message format), so take care, it will be time well spent.
***

- Pick/make a channel with the correct length format (number of bytes
and format)



- Then decide how you are going to run - jpos-ee might be a good way to
setup.

- There will be other steps, but...

- You 'sound' self sufficient and willing to learn, treat yourself to a
jPos Programmers guide, it will save us some time and effort and help
you get going too - jpos.org for that.

--
Mark

[Abdul Qavi]

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Mark Salter <marks...@talktalk.net> wrote:

Abdul Qavi wrote:
>>>> How does the device give you access to this data?
>>>>
>>> My device (card reader) is connected with PC-T100 bridge which converts
>>> RS-232 protocol to TCP/IP.
>> So do you configure the bridge connect out to a system on a port/ip
>> address?
>>
> yes i configure the bridge on a port/ip address

Please bear with me, I want to make sure I have this clear...

You set the bridge to listen on a port, then your web (jPos) application
will connects to the port on the bridge ready for the bridge to pass on
any swipe events that occur?

No. Bridge is already programmed, and is listening on a port ... i don't wanna do anything with bridge. I want my web (jPos) application to listen on a specific port indefinitely, in order for bridge to pass data to it(web app). When swipe event occurs, bridge captures the data. Now i want the bridge to send this captured data to my web (jPOS) application. I hope it'll be clear to you now.......

I wanted to clarify because...

> My web application is constantly listening on a specific port, and i want to
> capture the data when anybody swipes card through card reader.

This confused me, the bridge is listening, the web application will
connect and block on the read?

The web application will be listening on a port indefinitely, and will not block on read.

>
>> Is the data flow one way - any form of response back to the card reader
>> - "ok, open door"?
>>
> It is not one way. I want to send a response back to the card reader---
> e.g., i want to restrict people who have short attendance or who have not
> paid monthly fee, etc...

Do you have the message structure definition documented of these messages?

No i don't documented message structure yet.

If all the above is accurate, then you will need to prepare and arrange:-

- Pick/make a Packager that defines the message structure - field
definitions and format, using the message definition (I hope you have)

***
Note this is the 'hardest' part of preparing to use jPos on a new
interface (message format), so take care, it will be time well spent.
***

- Pick/make a channel with the correct length format (number of bytes
and format)



- Then decide how you are going to run - jpos-ee might be a good way to
setup.

- There will be other steps, but...

- You 'sound' self sufficient and willing to learn, treat yourself to a
jPos Programmers guide, it will save us some time and effort and help
you get going too - jpos.org for that.

Yeah you're quite right. I've installed and run both jPOS and jpos-ee. Now i am studying 3rd chapter of jPOS Programmer's guide. I've written jPOS client code, and got response from echo server.
That is the jpos client code that i've executed....

import org.jpos.iso.*;
import org.jpos.util.*;
import org.jpos.iso.channel.*;
import org.jpos.iso.packager.*;
public class Test {
public static void main (String[] args) throws Exception {
Logger logger = new Logger();
logger.addListener (new SimpleLogListener (System.out));
ISOChannel channel = new ASCIIChannel (
"localhost", 8084, new ISO87APackager()
);
((LogSource)channel).setLogger (logger, "test-channel");
channel.connect ();
ISOMsg m = new ISOMsg ();
m.setMTI ("0800");
m.set (3, "000000");
m.set (41, "00000001");
m.set (70, "301");
channel.send (m);
ISOMsg r = channel.receive ();
channel.disconnect ();
}
}

What i've already done is that i just used echo server which sends back the same data that it receives. But now i want to capture fields of ISOMsg in server code. Please tell me the steps how can i do that??? 

Once again thank you so much for your so generous support. :-)

[chhil]

I am simply thinking out aloud...isn't jpos an overkill for this kind of usage?

-chhil

[chhil]

I am simply thinking out aloud, feel free to shoot me down...isn't jpos an overkill for this kind of usage?

-chhil

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Abdul Qavi <aqa...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Mark Salter]

chhil wrote:
> I am simply thinking out aloud, feel free to shoot me down...isn't jpos an
> overkill for this kind of usage?

It might be a very simple setup with more work in the packager discovery
than anything else.

I guess it depends on how much time Abdul can give for the return.

8)

--
Mark

[Mark Salter]

Abdul Qavi wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Mark Salter <marks...@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
>> Abdul Qavi wrote:
>>>>>> How does the device give you access to this data?
>>>>>>
>>>>> My device (card reader) is connected with PC-T100 bridge which converts
>>>>> RS-232 protocol to TCP/IP.
>>>> So do you configure the bridge connect out to a system on a port/ip
>>>> address?
>>>>
>>> yes i configure the bridge on a port/ip address
>> Please bear with me, I want to make sure I have this clear...
>>
>> You set the bridge to listen on a port, then your web (jPos) application
>> will connects to the port on the bridge ready for the bridge to pass on
>> any swipe events that occur?
>>
> No. Bridge is already programmed, and is listening on a port ... i don't
> wanna do anything with bridge. I want my web (jPos) application to listen on
> a specific port indefinitely, in order for bridge to pass data to it(web
> app). When swipe event occurs, bridge captures the data. Now i want the
> bridge to send this captured data to my web (jPOS) application. I hope it'll
> be clear to you now.......

It is a language thing...

I think we could be agreeing...

- The bridge provides a port and listens for connections,
- your application connects to the port on the bridge,
- the bridge sees a swipe event and sends a message out on it's
connected port,
- your application then deals with the message before
returning a response
- which the bridge passes back to the card reader/entry point.

Web app and bridge can't both listen on their own ports you see, one has
to connect to the other, the direction does not matter and will be
dictated by the bridge (already programmed). The setup of your web app
connectivity to the bridge will be decided on this basis.

>> Do you have the message structure definition documented of these messages?
>>
> No i don't documented message structure yet.

But you can get it? You will need it.

>
> What i've already done is that i just used echo server which sends back the
> same data that it receives.

'echo server'?

> But now i want to capture fields of ISOMsg in
> server code. Please tell me the steps how can i do that???

You need control of the code in this server, so you can change it - do
you have that?

But...

I think I would be using the code above to connect to a bridge, getting
the Channel structure right and working on the Packager (with
documentation).

In this 'test' scenario the echo server is replacing the bridge, the
code above (without the send, unless the bridge needs a 'sign-on') is
the web app side of the exchange with the bridge.
Please realise that setting up a test that uses a different Channel (to
the bridge) and packager (to the bridge) is not getting you anything.
As an exercise in 'seeing' jPos work and finding out how the components
bolt together it is fine, but for this exercise you should be able to
work from the guide alone.

Please focus on getting the bridge documentation I said is key, without
it 'we' are going to struggle; and might already have failed.

--
Mark

[Mark Salter]

Mark Salter wrote:
> - the bridge sees a swipe event and sends a message out on it's
> connected port,
> - your application then deals with the message before
> returning a response

I took a quick look at the device suppliers website. The messages their
documentation shows being exchanged look like FSD messages to me, but
this will vary from RS-232 attached device to RS-232 attached device.

Of course the device connected to the PC-T100 dictates the message
exchange, with PC-T100 just acting as the RS-232 <> TCP/IP converter.

Which device type do you have connected to your PC-T100 Abdul, does it
talk ISO8583?

--
Mark

[Abdul Qavi]

yeah!!!! you've completely got my problem.

Web app and bridge can't both listen on their own ports you see, one has
to connect to the other, the direction does not matter and will be
dictated by the bridge (already programmed).  The setup of your web app
connectivity to the bridge will be decided on this basis.

Ok, i got you

>> Do you have the message structure definition documented of these messages?
>>
> No i don't documented message structure yet.

But you can get it?  You will need it.

ok i do it

>
> What i've already done is that i just used echo server which sends back the
> same data that it receives.

'echo server'?

> But now i want to capture fields of ISOMsg in
> server code. Please tell me the steps how can i do that???

You need control of the code in this server, so you can change it - do
you have that?

Yeah exactly I used echo server, but now i want ISOMsg to go to my web application (running on web server, localhost:8084), and my web application should be able to get either complete ISOMsg or individual fields of ISOMsg and show on the screen.
In this scenario, you can bypass bridge. Think of direct communication b/w card reader (POS) and my web application.

 

But...

I think I would be using the code above to connect to a bridge, getting
the Channel structure right and working on the Packager (with
documentation).

In this 'test' scenario the echo server is replacing the bridge, the
code above (without the send, unless the bridge needs a 'sign-on') is
the web app side of the exchange with the bridge.
Please realise that setting up a test that uses a different Channel (to
the bridge) and packager (to the bridge) is not getting you anything.
As an exercise in 'seeing' jPos work and finding out how the components
bolt together it is fine, but for this exercise you should be able to
work from the guide alone.

In 'test' scenario, you can bypass bridge. Think of direct communication b/w card reader (POS) and my web application. No bridge is functioning in 'test' scenario.

Please focus on getting the bridge documentation I said is key, without
it 'we' are going to struggle; and might already have failed.

I've got one and i am reading, but this documentation does not contain much info. I am still surfing net for more documentations.

Once again thank you :-)

[Abdul Qavi]

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Mark Salter <marks...@talktalk.net> wrote:

Mark Salter wrote:
> - the bridge sees a swipe event and sends a message out on it's
> connected port,
> - your application then deals with the message before
> returning a response

I took a quick look at the device suppliers website.  The messages their
documentation shows being exchanged look like FSD messages to me, but
this will vary from RS-232 attached device to RS-232 attached device.

Of course the device connected to the PC-T100 dictates the message
exchange, with PC-T100 just acting as the RS-232 <> TCP/IP converter.

yeah i agree.

Which device type do you have connected to your PC-T100 Abdul, does it
talk ISO8583?

PG-2752C device (from pegasus) is connected to PC-T100. You can follow the link below to see the device

http://www.pongee.com/Magnetic_PG-2752C.htm

I am not sure whether it talks ISO 8583 or not. But i am told by someone that it does.

[Abdul Qavi]

Dear Mark,
Do you think PG-2752C talks ISO 8583 or not???? Plz help me
Best regards

[Mark Salter]

Abdul Qavi wrote:
> Do you think PG-2752C talks ISO 8583 or not?

I don't know.

I asked my crystal ball...
...it suggested you should read the technical manual for your device.

--
Mark

[Abdul Qavi]

Ok i read its technical manual.

In 'test' scenario, please tell how to get ISOMsg fields in my web application, assuming direct communication b/w device and computer. No bridge is functioning b/w.

[Mark Salter]

Abdul Qavi wrote:

> Ok i read its technical manual.

Is it ISO-8583 then?

>
> In 'test' scenario, please tell how to get ISOMsg fields in my web
> application, assuming direct communication b/w device and computer. No
> bridge is functioning b/w.

Can I suggest you get the latest jPos Programmers guide, and also search
this mailing list (Packager, Channel)

If things are ISO-8583 the answers are waiting for a search described
above to find them.

If things are not ISO-8583 then add "FSDMsg" to the search criteria.

Good luck.

--
Mark

[Abdul Qavi]

Dear Mark, thank you so much for your support and suggestions. I just start searching mailing list, and whenever stuck in my coding, i'll concern you again. :-) ONce again thank you.....
Best of luck

 

Good luck.