FYI: Renewal of PhpStorm license

[Niels Braczek]

Hi,

I just got the good news: Joomla! has been granted another year to use
PhpStorm.

Please contact me, if you want the license key. Mail me directly using
the sender address of this mail, *not here on the list*. I'm most likely
going to ignore non-PM requests.

"Develop with pleasure!"

Regards,
Niels

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[Mareike Riegel]

Hi Niels,
I'm longing for a new license. I'd be very grateful if I got one:-)
Greetings
Mareike
PS: If this maillands in the mailgroup anyway, I must have done
something wrong, sry.

Am 16.05.2013 14:58, schrieb Niels Braczek:
> Hi,
>
> I just got the good news: Joomla! has been granted another year to use
> PhpStorm.
>
> Please contact me, if you want the license key. Mail me directly using
> the sender address of this mail, *not here on the list*. I'm most likely
> going to ignore non-PM requests.
>
> "Develop with pleasure!"
>
> Regards,
> Niels
>


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[Nguyen Tran Quan]

Hi Niels, 

I always want to try this powerful IDE.

It is really great if I get one licence.

Best regards,

Quan

[Rishant Agarwal]

Hi,

I am a developer from the community and is applying for GSOC working on the WebDriver based testing . I need a license for PHPStorm and it will be great if you could send me one.

Thanks

[Joe Palmer]

Hi Niels,

If you could send me a licence for PhpStorm, that would be great.

Many thanks,

Joe

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[Niv Froehlich]

Forgive me for asking, why PHPStorm over free open-source Eclipse - is this preference due to easier unit testing/debugging?

I need to focus on one IDE to really learn it inside out - anybody knowledgeable on the differences who could help guide the decision would be great!

N

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[Michael Babker]

When I switched from Eclipse to PhpStorm in 2011, I enjoyed its ease of use, better performance, and better tool integration (I've found it easier to integrate with GitHub and local command line tools like PHPUnit in PhpStorm over Eclipse), and those have only improved in the time since.  The one thing that annoyed me that I've now learned to work around was the fact you can't put more than one project in a window.  Another selling point was it being cross-platform; though last I knew Eclipse is too (I jump between Windows and Mac, so the less differences in work environments, the better).

[Niv Froehlich]

Thanks Michael!

I've been researching this for a while to decide which to use (NetBeans vs. Eclipse vs. PHPStorm vs. Aptana), so it's great to hear from experienced people.

While I know it largely comes down to preference, the comparisons I've read usually give PHPStorm the edge for debugging and unit testing.

I will definitely give PHP Storm a shot.

Much appreciated!

N

[Chad Windnagle]

Niv you might find this useful:

http://www.sitepoint.com/best-php-ide-2014-survey-results/

Regards,
Chad Windnagle

[Niv Froehlich]

Thanks Chad :-)

[Pedro Peña Sánchez]

Hi Niels.

Has the licence been renewed?

Many thanks in advance. 

[Niels Braczek]

Am 09.05.2014 08:57, schrieb Pedro Peña Sánchez:

> Has the licence been renewed?

Not yet. JetBrains says:

"As I recall Mikhail Vink (PhpStorm PMM) asked you last year to mention
that you use PhpStorm for open source development somewhere on Joomla!
pages, did you manage to do that?"

I don't know, what to respond. Any hints, anybody?

Regards,
Niels

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[George Wilson]

Well we mention it here http://issues.joomla.org/documentation/view/?page=Dependencies&path=Development

But it's a fair point we really should put them on the partners page of joomla.org in my opinion. I dunno who would be in charge of doing that?

Kind Regards,

George

[Nikolai Plath]

There is a mention of PHPStorm on an official Joomla! page here:
http://issues.joomla.org/documentation/view/?page=Dependencies&path=Development

This page is generated from the official repository:
https://github.com/joomla/jissues/blob/master/Documentation/Development/Dependencies.md#jetbrains-phpstorm

Hope that helps ;)
Nikolai

[Nikolai Plath]

Oh and for reference: https://github.com/joomla/jissues/pull/179

Am 09.05.2014 13:15, schrieb Niels Braczek:

[Michael Babker]

We should try to get this addressed this week.  I'll bring it up again.

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[Robert Vining]

As of today, we have no PHP Storm license for Joomla. I know more than a few folks that are very thankful to have access to this license.

[Nikolai Plath]

I have been told that:
"
There has been a couple leadership discussions about the best way to promote their sponsorship of the project.
 We should see some announcements made soon.
… :) Not to worry
"

On the other hand I can understand Jetbrains if they decide not to renew the free licenses they granted to Joomla! developers.

If the Joomla! project decides not to give any credits (a link on an official page) to Jetbrains, then one might think that there is actually no need for those licenses.

Regards,
Nikolai

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[Dmitry Rekun aka b2z]

Yeah just evaluated for 30 days yesterday :)

Dmitry

[Matt Thomas]

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Nikolai Plath <der.el.kuku@gmail.com> wrote:

I have been told that:
"
There has been a couple leadership discussions about the best way to promote their sponsorship of the project.
 We should see some announcements made soon.
… :) Not to worry
"

This is correct and we're coming close to a quick conclusion.

 

On the other hand I can understand Jetbrains if they decide not to renew the free licenses they granted to Joomla! developers.
If the Joomla! project decides not to give any credits (a link on an official page) to Jetbrains, then one might think that there is actually no need for those licenses.

One thing that I'd add to that, and I hope Jetbrains reads this, is that I  and others have moved from the free license for the Joomla project to a paid one so that we can use it for other purposes. I'm currently on my second year of using it as a paid product and will continue to do so.

Best,

Matt Thomas

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[MaxOnTheHill]

Yep - I agree ... most people will do the right thing and move to a paid licence if they find it useful and use outside the project.

I am also wondering, if this is widely used and  support is for and by both parties, how come J-team haven't added a plugin to Joomla support to the phpstorm plugins ... surely that would be a good selling point and add strength to working in Joomla?

There's a manual process described at http://docs.joomla.org/Joomla_CodeSniffer#PHPStorm ... but drupal, wp, magenta & many others have invested in properly integrating via the phpstorm plugin repo at http://plugins.jetbrains.com/category/index?pr=phpStorm&category_id=43 - something for the list?

Or do most people use "free" IDE/code environments (even though phpstorm has offered free licence to those contributing to joomla)  .... and if so, what is "recommended" within the Jooma dev community?

Just my thoughts - Thx,

Max

[George Wilson]

I definitely find using it useful and use it for use in the project (and am not going to for the foreseeable future gonna have the money to afford it). It is awesome to have this association!

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[Matt Thomas]

Hi everyone,

We now have a "Credits and Thanks" page at http://docs.joomla.org/Joomla!_Credits_and_Thanks which we will be linking to as it seems fit. As this page is part of the document site, it will be a living document and members of the community can help maintain It. Members of the leadership teams will be monitoring changes to that document to ensure edits are appropriate.

Thanks everyone!

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[Nikolai Plath]

Well, this is a good start ;)

Since the wiki page seems to be a copy of this page:
http://www.joomla.org/about-joomla/the-project/partners.html
maybe the "original" could be updated?

Thanks everyone :)

[Tom Hutchison]

Yes, the page, http://www.joomla.org/about-joomla/the-project/partners.html was used as a starting point. The new page, http://docs.joomla.org/Joomla!_Credits_and_Thanks is available as a community maintained page. Please feel free to update it.

One of the issues(IMHO) we have as a community is a multitude of redundant content on many pages. Pages are created, leadership comes and goes, and some content pages fall through the cracks and never get updated because they are forgotten. By creating a page on docs now anyone can help maintain the content.

Tom

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[Niels Braczek]

Am 18.05.2014 16:04, schrieb Matt Thomas:

> We now have a "Credits and Thanks" page at
> http://docs.joomla.org/Joomla!_Credits_and_Thanks

Thank you, Matt! I informed JetBrains about the good news and hope to
hear from them soon.

Regards,
Niels

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[Matt Thomas]

Cheers Niels. I'm merely the messenger in this situation. Tom is the person to thank for getting that document put together. Thanks Tom!

Best,

Matt Thomas

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[Robert]

seems the licence is renewed:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/joomla-dev-framework/BRMgLZG4k5E

Cheers,

Robert