" " Shirk " "

[Zeeshan Siddiqui]

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته   Allah Subhana Wa Talah Hume Shirk Jaise Gunah Se Bachaiye..Ameeeen

[sumbel ijaz]

Yahan, I want to raise a point that either we Muslims think that our prayers are pure??

kehney ka aasan lafzon me mtlb ye ha k kya aaj ka Musalman shirk ka murtakib nae ha??

jese k darbaron per jana r ja kr k un se mangna, YA ALLAH ki bijaey YA ALI or YA RASOOL(SAW) k narey buland kr k madad k liye pukarna, nazro nayaz Allah ki bijaey dosron k naamon ki paka kr bant'na, ye sb tauheed k khelaf ha, tauheed mehaz Allah SWT ko aik man'na nahen ha, bulkey ibaadat me usey khalis krna, usi ko madad k liye pukarna hatta k jotey ka tasma b toot jaey ya ghar me namak jesi cheez k na honey per b...

Allah hmari samaj bojh ko jagaein or hmein ye peeeron k chungal se azad krwaen.. ye deen k naam per paisa bananey waley peer hmari na khwanda awam ka emaan buri tarha disturb kr rahe hain...

Khudara ghaur kijiey, Allah k Nabi SAW ka Asar ki namaz se pehley 4 rak'ten perhney walon k barey me farmaan ha k Allah us per reham fermaye jo ye 4 rak'teen perhey, aur aj hm paisa kharach kr k kisi se dua manwatey hain, safar ka kharach utahtey hain, kya hmein Allah k Nabi SAW ki dua ki qaboliyat me koi shakk ha...

Baaz aao musalmano in peeron k ghar bherne se aur apna taluk apne Khalik e Haqiqui se mazboot karo, Allah ap k b ut'ney e hain jitney un peeron k hain, Allah kehetey hain mera bnda namaz me muj se hm kalam hota ha.

Meri samaj me ye nae aata k ye ho kese skta ha k bnda kisi se hm kalam ho kr b usey apna msla na samjha skey, or wo b us Allah ko jo Maa se b 70 guna zyada pyar krta ha...

meri request ha k ghaur kijiey...

2010/12/29 Zeeshan Siddiqui <zshans...@hotmail.com>

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[Zeeshan Siddiqui]

You are definitely true. Pata nahi keh musalmaan kab tauheed ko kab samjheingay. 

 

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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:00:20 +0500
Subject: Re: **JP** " " Shirk " "
From: univers...@gmail.com
To: joinpa...@googlegroups.com
CC: pakista...@googlegroups.com

[Sapphire]

AAP KUN PARESHAN HOTE HO, QAYAMAT KAY DIN FAISLA HO JAYE GA...

 

YA RASOOL ALLAH  E UNZUR HALANA....

YA HABIB ALLAH E ISMA QALANA...

[Zeeshan Siddiqui]

Kehna bohat aasan hai lekin qayamat ke din kiya hoga Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala se us ke rahmat aur karam ki dua'a karni chahiye. Itni laparwahi tau qayamat ke baray mai wohi log barat tey they jin ka zikr Quaran-e-Pak mai aaya hai.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala har Muslim ko qayamat ke havaley se aisi laparwahi se mehfooz farmaye (AAMEEN)

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From: in...@lhr.sapphire.com.pk
To: joinpa...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: **JP** " " Shirk " "
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 10:46:39 +0500

[Sapphire]

LAPARWAHI KON BARAT RAHA HAI..?????

 

Agar Ya Rasool Allah (sallallah o alihe w-alehi wasallam) pukarnay walon par Allah SWT aur us kay piyaray Rasool ki naz-e-khas hui (kun k yeh us ki Rehmat hai, jisay chahe nawaz de) to tum log kahan jao gay jo Ya Rasool Allah pukarnay ko shirk kehtay hain..?????????????????

 

Jawab likhnay se pehlay aik bar phir soach lena k in sab baton ka bhi poocha jaye ga....

[Zeeshan Siddiqui]

Janab Gumnam Sb (Gumnam is liye likha keh aap ka naam tau pata nahi jabkeh guftugu ke adab mai apna ta'ruf karana zaruri hai jo shayad aapko nahi pata)

Mainey kaha hai keh qayamat k havaley se laparwahi nahi baratni chahiye aap ko jo karna hai karein jo nahi karna nahi karein lekin aapkey jumlon mai qayamat ke havaley se laparwahi thi is liye mainey jawab diya tha aapkey jumley yah they: AAP KUN PARESHAN HOTE HO, QAYAMAT KAY DIN FAISLA HO JAYE GA...

Koi bhi faisla karley yeh qayamat se laparwahi nahi hai tau kiya hai.

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From: in...@lhr.sapphire.com.pk
To: joinpa...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: **JP** " " Shirk " "

Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 11:26:12 +0500

[Sapphire]

Janab pehlay aap apnay jumlay par ghor karain

 

  " Pata nahi keh musalmaan kab tauheed ko kab samjheingay. "

Whereas mera eman k har musalman (pura kalma parhnay wala) tauheed par hai.  Means aap dawa kar rahay hain k sirf aap aur aap kay ham khiyaal hi tauheed ko samjhte hain.. phir is ka jawab kiya hona chihiyae, wohi jo ma na likha hai, kun k behs barhti jaye gi aur hasil kuch nahi ho ga. Ab aap k kehnay ya chahnay se Allah SWT mujh se naraaz to nahi ho sakta...

[I Am BazMi]

see the link below......

http://www.khanqah.org/books/show/ishq-e-risalat-ka-sahi-mafhum

 

///Be happy forever\\\
\\Your face Can Spread Many Many Happier Momoents//
=Don't Ever Tell A Lie=
Regards
BazMi

 

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From: Sapphire <in...@lhr.sapphire.com.pk>
To: joinpa...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 31, 2010 10:26:12 PM
Subject: RE: **JP** " " Shirk " "

[Zeeshan Siddiqui]

Tau agar aap tauheed par hain tau aapko bura manna hi nahi chahiye aajkal kitney hi log aisey hain jo apney aapko muslim kehtey hain lekin tauheed ki jitni mukhalfat ho sakti hai kartey hain. Agar aap unmai se nahi hain tau bura manney ki zarurat hi nahi hai.

 

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From: in...@lhr.sapphire.com.pk
To: joinpa...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: **JP** " " Shirk " "

Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 12:13:17 +0500

[Cutting Finance]

Hamara Nabi Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) Rahmatal-ul-Almeen han ya tha ????

 

and

 

ka ALLAHA TALA Rahmatal-ul-Almeen ha

 

Ya

 

Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) or ALLAHA TALA dono Rahmatal-ul-Almeen ha

 

aghar jawb han ma do to pher Ya Rasool Allah pukran pa itraz ku????

 

 Aghar Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) Rahmatal-ul-Almeen han to " Ya " ka lafz un k lia istamal kia ja skata ha

 

 

2010/12/29 Zeeshan Siddiqui <zshans...@hotmail.com>

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[Sapphire]

Yani aap nay apni aqqal o samajh ko bala tar kar k yeh faisal kar liya keh Ya Rasool Allah (sallallah o alaihe w aalehi wassalam) pukarna tauheed ki mukhalfat hai.. to mera jawab bil-aakhir phir wohi ho ga..........

[MLH...@aliakbargroup.com]

"Ba'ad az Khuda Bazurg Tu'e qissa mukhtasar"

one should not comment if does not know!!!

Zeeshan Siddiqui <zshans...@hotmail.com> Sent by: joinpa...@googlegroups.com 01/01/2011 11:00 AM Please respond to joinpakistan

To:        <joinpa...@googlegroups.com>, <pakista...@googlegroups.com>         cc:                 Subject:        RE: **JP** " " Shirk " "

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

[MULTI - TASK]

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From: Cutting Finance

To: joinpa...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 12:59 PM

Subject: Re: **JP** " " Shirk " "

Hamara Nabi Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) Rahmatal-ul-Almeen han ya tha ????

(Kalima ka tarjum karo to pata chalta hey keh " Nahi koi maabood siwae ALLAH ke and Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa (PBUM) ALLAH ke Rasool hain) ic ko koi tabdeel nahi kar sakta

 

and

 

ka ALLAHA TALA Rahmatal-ul-Almeen ha (Allah Tala ne Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa (PBUM) ko tamam jahano ke lia Rahmatal-ul-Alameen bana kara bheja) , ALLAH bohat GHAFOOR-ur-RAHEEM Hey

[I Am BazMi]

Assaalm o alaikum
Brother imran yasir...
Agar main kahon k they ..to??
any way i sent a link below on this subject ...plz read that...then write ur words...
With best wishes

 

///Be happy forever\\\
\\Your face Can Spread Many Many Happier Momoents//
=Don't Ever Tell A Lie=
Regards
BazMi

 

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From: Cutting Finance <mimra...@gmail.com>
To: joinpa...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 31, 2010 11:59:19 PM
Subject: Re: **JP** " " Shirk " "

[-Shujah Qureshi-]

Assalam o Alaikum  Wr Wb I want to add something here.  Ye to exactly naee pata k qiamat k din kia kia hoga, but itna zaroor pata hay k kia naee hoga...... Ham se ye sawal naee poocha jaeyga k Hazarat Muhammad SAW Hazir thay ya naee? Ya Rasool kehna jayez tha ya najayez,,,,, Meray hisab ye itna ghair mani differences hain k in k oppar alfaaz ka istimaal waster of time, energy and resources  hay.....  Kia tuk banata hay fuzool main apna kaleja jalanay ko..? Kia every principle of Islam isnt crystal clear for us ? I suggest one thing, when ever there is difference of opinion regarding any Islamic point, just we need to do is to find the behavior of Sahab ( RA)  ( true followers of Hazrat Muhammad SAW) about that point, aur koi ek sahabi (  RA) ka tarz e amaal b himayat main hay to wo action follow kr lain , otherwise confusion main apnay emaan ko risk par dalna bewakoofi hogi. Shariaah kisi molvi k alfazon ka nam naee hay, ye Quran aur Hadith k wazih tareeh ahkamaat se sabit shuda qawaneen ki collection hay. So aisay topics main quran aur saheeh hadith se roshni le li jaey aur agar koi mushkil pesh aeey to khamoshi behtar hay. Naray marnay se kch naee hota. " Ye shahadat gah-e-ulfaat main qadam rkhna hay,    Log asaan samjtay hain Muslmaan hona". Apni duties se ghaflat aur ghair zaroori discussion se parhaiz behtar hay.. Shirk buhat azeem gunah hay, kisi molvi ki taqreerain sun kr impress naee hona chahiay....... Koi exact Hadith kisi topic par ho to faisla kr lain, Sahaba RA ka tarz e amaal dekh lain .Roshni Mil jaey gii.. JazakALLAH kher   Best Regards                     Shujah Qureshi  --- On Sat, 1/1/11, MLH...@aliakbargroup.com <MLH...@aliakbargroup.com> wrote:

[Zeeshan Siddiqui]

Bhai Sahab! Baraye meherbani deen mai taveelat se bachein kyunkeh yahud o nasara is liye rusva huye keh woh deen mai taveelat kiya karte they. Kalimah mai likha hai keh Muhammad (Sallalahu Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) Allah ke Rasool hain. Is ka matlab seedha seedha yeh hai keh Rasool Allah (Sallalahu Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) ko Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala ney duniya mai Rasool bana kar bheja hai aur Rahmat-ul-Lilalameen bana kar bheja hai is ka matlab hai sarey jahano ke liye Rahmat bana kar.

Ab is ka matlab yeh nahi keh Rasool Allah (Sallalahu Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) ko Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala ney dayimi zindagi de kar bheja hai. Allah key Rasool (Sallalahu Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) bil aakhir ek bashar they aur yeh baat Quran Pak aur Ahadith mai ja ba ja mojud hai aur Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala ney Quran Pak mai yeh bhi farmaya hai: Kullo Nafsin Zaiquat-ul Mout yani har zee rooh ko mout ka ziaqua chakna hai. Agar hum yeh man lain keh Allah key Rasool (Sallalahu Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) ney wafat nahi payi balkeh woh aaj bhi hayat hain aur hamarey darmiyan meelad ki mehfilon mai mojud hotey hain tau is matlab hua keh Allah key Rasool (Sallalahu Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) ki zaat ghair fani hai (jabkeh Quran Pak key mutabiq sirf aur sirf Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala ki hi zaat ghair fani hai) kyunkeh is duniya ke baad aakhirat mai sarey insano ko uthaya jayega aur unka jaza aur saza ka faisla ho ga jo gunahgar hongey woh hamesha hamesha key liye jahannum mai raheingey aur aur naik aur sualeh hongey woh hamesha hamesha key liye jannat mai raheingey. Aur Allah key Rasool (Sallalahu Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) tau jannat ke sardar hain.

Ab aapki baat ka matlab hua keh Allah key Rasool (Sallalahu Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) apni Viladat-e-Mubarkah sey lekar aaj tak duniya mai mojud hain aur qayamat tak raheingey uskey baad aakhirat mai tau Nabi Pak (Sallalahu Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) eeman walon ki shifa'at key liye mojud hongey hi tau Aap (Sallalahu Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) ki zindagi is aquidey se ghair fani sabit ho jati jo keh sarasar Quran Pak aur Ahadith-e-Mubarkah key khilaf hai. Tau jo aquidah Quran Pak aur Ahadith-e-Mubarkah key khilaf ho tau usey kiya kaha jaata hai mere khayal se aap ko bataney ki zarurat nahi hai kyunkeh aap parhey likhey hain samajh saktey hain.

Is key ilavah mujhe kuch nahi kehna baqui aap jo kehna aur karna chahein tau aap azad hain aur roz-e-qayamat apna hisab aap dengey aur mai apna hisab doonga.

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From: mts...@multi.net.pk
To: joinpa...@googlegroups.com
CC: mimra...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: **JP** " " Shirk " "
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 13:25:17 +0500

[I Am BazMi]

Assalam o alaikum ....
Shujah brother...... sure we have to see Qura'an or hadith....but what u said ye koi molvi k alfazon ka majmoa nahn hey...sure but Qura'an or hadith ko samjhney k lye bhi koi molvi chahye...
jesey..
ap Qura'an ka tarjuma n tafseer study ker rahey ho ..to ap kia khud se tarjuma kar saktey ho ....n tafseer also?? nahin ...ap ko is k lye koi mo'atabar molvi k likhey alfaz chahyen...

han ye zaroor hey ...k intikhab ap ne karna hey....or is k lye bhi ap ko ILM ki zaroorat hey.....
or ILM ghar bethey ap 1000 books bhi padh lo ap alim nahin ho saktey ...jab tak chand Ulama ki majalis main na betho.....kafi taweel study k bad ja kar hi Insan ka apna ek mind banta hey....
werna aaj hamrey Muashrey main ak bohot bohot bada tabqa sirf apney badon ki taqleed kar raha hey ..or unhone jo keh dya wo hi pathar ki lakeer ban gaya...or phir us per wo hazrat aisey dat jatey hen...jesey 1400 sal pehley makkey k bashindey howa kartey they apney baap dada k deen per....

 sure is tarah ki discusions ka koi faida nahin ...but jahan koi ghalat bat karey to us ko ek bar rokney ki koshish zaroor karni chahye....
n sure ALLAH ne hamari hidayat k ley apney Mehboob SALLALAHU ALAIHE WASALLAM ko ham par maboos farmaya...or phir Qura'an majeed ki soorat main hamen ek tohfa ata kia،ta k ham apni zindagi mukammal ALLAH ki ita'at main guzaren in addition..insan sirf baton ka qail nahin hey...usey jab tak amal kar k na dikhao...werna ALLAH k lye ye namumkin nahin k wo Qura'an ko kisi pahad p utar deta or isanon ko kehta k jao us se hidayat hasil ker lo.... so ALLAH ne Quraan majeed per amal kesey kia jay us k lye Muhammad SALLALAHU ALAIHE WASALLAM ki zindagi ko hamarey lye namoona banaya..or un ki har sunnat hamrey lye mash'al e rah hoi...
or is ko apnaney waley SAHABA E KIRAM radhiallah u anhum ...they ... jinhon e Nabi Kareem SALLALAHU ALAIHE WASALLAM ko follow kia ..or phir tabaeen aye unhone Sahba e Kiram radhiaALLAH anhum ko follow kia...phr taba tabaenn ...or ye silsila chalta raha or jari o sari hey....

aj hamari azeem sarzameen intihai pasti ki halat main he...or In sahib ko Ya kehna kesa hey ki padihey ...koi un se poochey din main kitney waqt ki namaz padhtey hen...rozey kitney rakhtey hen?? kabhi zakat di hey?? qurbani ki hey??? phri sadqa khairat main kitna dil phenk hen.....??? ya qurbani k masail pooch len....zakat kab wajib hoti hey pooch len .....bas itna hi pooch lya jay k namaz kab kab fasid ho jati hey .or kab kab sajd a esahu wajib hota hey????waghiara waghaira ....islam k bunyadi arkan p koi amal nahin hoga ...but fuzool baton main waqt barbad karna or dosron ko bhi tang karna in ka shewa hey ...
main apna waqia sunata hon ...
meri MaaN Intihai sakht beemar thi...or hamara ghar ek masjid k bilkul samney tha...or ye khabees raat raat bhar loud speaker per chilla rahey hotey they .... tahajjud to ek rakaat nahin padhi hogi ....
ab main ja kar mana karon to firqa bandi ki bat shroo karden ye log ..so us dooran ek raat bhi meri MAAN so nahin sakin... or maine koshish ker k ghar hi change ker wa lya....
pata nahin konsa deen hey in logon ka ....
main khas kar Zeeshan bhai se request keronga k ap bat karenbut tool na den q k faida kuch nahin hey ...khasara ap ka hi hey ...

سر جس پھ نھ جھکے اسے در نھیں کھتے
ھر در پر جو جھک جاے اسے سر نھیں کھتے

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Regards
BazMi
Karachi-Pakistan

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From: -Shujah Qureshi- <deserve....@yahoo.com>
To: joinpa...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 8:53:08 PM
Subject: RE: **JP** " " Shirk " "

[Cutting Finance]

Is ma koi shak ke gunjaish nahe k

                TOU ZINDAH HAI WALLAH, TOU ZINDAH HAI WALLAH

          MERE CHASHM E A'ALAM SE CHUPP JANAY WALAY 

Allah Tabrik Tala sa dua ha k wo hum sub ko apne Rahmata Khas sa hadaiat naseeb farmay.

 

Muhmmad Imran

----- Original Message -----

From: Sapphire

To: joinpa...@googlegroups.com

Cc: mimra...@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 1:13 PM

Subject: RE: **JP** " " Shirk " "

Be-shak aaj bhi woh hayat hain aur mehfilon ma bhi shareek hotay hain lekin unhain MUNAFIQ ANKHAIN dekh nahi saktin.. kun keh jin logon nay Aqa Karim alaihe salat o wassalam kay wisal / inteqal ko apny MAA BAAP AUR AULAD KAY MARNE jesa samjha ho woh is haqeeqat ko kabhi nahi paa saktay.. Jab keh Aqa Karim alaihe salat o wassalam ka namaz e jinazah bhi nahi parha gya tha. Lekin is Ayat Mubarik (Kullo Nafsin Zaiquat-ul Mout ) aur Allah kay nizaam kay tehat tamam MAKHLOOK ko is marhalay se guzarna paray ga...

 

Allah SWT ki La'anat ho un par jo Aqa Karim alaihe salat o wassalam ko murdah tasawwar karain kun k woh Quran ki Ayat ka saaf inkaar karte hain...

 

" Jo Allah ki raah ma Shaheed ho ja'ain, unhain MURDAH na kaho, balkeh woh Zindah hain, HAAN TUMHAIN KHABAR (SHAOOR) NAHIN "

  (Surah Al-baqarah 154)

 

Is par aiteraz ho ga Rasool Allah (sallallah o alaihe w-a'alehi wasallam) to Jihad ma shaheed nahi huway thay. To jin kay dilon par quful par chukay hon woh yeh baat samajhnay se hamesha qaasir rahain gay keh

 

KIYA AIK JIHAD MA SHAHEED HONAY WALAY PAR INAMAAT, US KA MARTABA AUR MUQAM, ALLAH SWT KAY PIYARAY MEHBOOB SE BARH SAKTA HAI..??  KIYA ALLAH SWT APNAY PIYARAY MEHBOOB KO IN INAYAAT  SE MEHROOM RAKHAY HUWAY HAI JO AIK JIHAD MA SHAHEED HONAY WALAY PAR HAIN... KEH WOH ZINDAH HAIN aur saath hi yeh farma diya keh tum is ka shaoor nahi rakhte

 

However, ma a'aindah is mauzo par koi jawab nahi doonga, majbooran jawab is liyae likha hai k mera zamir khamosh rehna gawara nahi kar raha tha aur bohat se log previous below e-mail ko parh rahay hain....

 

          TOU ZINDAH HAI WALLAH, TOU ZINDAH HAI WALLAH

          MERE CHASHM E A'ALAM SE CHUPP JANAY WALAY

 

 

 

 

 

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From: joinpa...@googlegroups.com [mailto:joinpa...@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Zeeshan Siddiqui

Sent: Fri, December 31, 2010 10:26:12 PM
Subject: RE: **JP** " " Shirk " "

LAPARWAHI KON BARAT RAHA HAI..?????

 

Agar Ya Rasool Allah (sallallah o alihe w-alehi wasallam) pukarnay walon par Allah SWT aur us kay piyaray Rasool ki naz-e-khas hui (kun k yeh us ki Rehmat hai, jisay chahe nawaz de) to tum log kahan jao gay jo Ya Rasool Allah pukarnay ko shirk kehtay hain..?????????????????

 

Jawab likhnay se pehlay aik bar phir soach lena k in sab baton ka bhi poocha jaye ga....

-----Original Message-----

From: joinpa...@googlegroups.com [mailto:joinpa...@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Zeeshan Siddiqui

Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 11:00 AM

2010/12/29 Zeeshan Siddiqui <zshans...@hotmail.com>

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Allah Subhana Wa Talah Hume Shirk Jaise Gunah Se Bachaiye..Ameeeen

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