[tarek elfaham]

[Fawzy, Reham]

Actually I am not interested in  your CV but I figured out that you spelled “HOPYES” wrongly in case you want to send it to other HR you should correct it first.

 

 

 

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[Muhammad Gad]

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                    Good day

 

I would like to let you know that there is a better way to conduct your precious advices.

 

Actually, I do not even know the applicant, but in case you want to have good communication skills you should correct your tone first.

 

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[Hisham Saadawi]

 
Dear Ms Rehm
 
Actually I would  like to  Apologize for this Mistake  i think you are employed in human resources.
 
I apologize once again.

 

 

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Subject: RE: [ JobawY ]
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:19:02 +0200
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Actually I am not interested in  your CV but I figured out that you spelled ï؟½HOPYESï؟½ wrongly in case you want to send it to other HR you should correct it first.

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Dear,   I do not remember that I sent you any CV, and in my CV no word like you mentiond, I think their is some missunderstanding, but thank you for your advice.   Any way,your language is very taugh, while no need for that, when you deal next time with candidates, I am suggesting to mention something like thank you for your interesting.. ext, and then appologize that you do not have a chance or the CV is not matching the job specefication ..   Then say some thing like I hope the best for you, then your name or signature.     Regards,   Mohamed Al-Shorbagy    966 502983411 --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Fawzy, Reham <rfa...@EFG-HERMES.com> wrote:

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ATTN: Mr Tarek Al Faham
 
Actually even I am not interested in your CV but would like to inform you that you should refer your CV to a professional before submitting to a company for job. There seem to be several mistakes in your CV.
 
RFawzy already pointed out one spelling mistake. Although I am not an expert but would give you some other mistakes that need to be corrected:
 
In Duties, the 3rd one should start with "Auditing and analysing...."
In General Skills, the 1st one should start with "Fond..." instead of "Found"
 
There are many more errors. Kindly have them corrected because you mention "English   ï؟½ very Good written & spoken"
 
Wish you good luck.

 

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[Saad Al Saif]

Dear Reham,

The language of your below email is not acceptable to any reader, leave aside the addressee.

 

The professional standards of this group expect much better communication skills.

 

Best regards,

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Dear Reham,
 
Kindly accept my observation.
 
I think it would be better to send your concern only to Mr. Tarek not to all the group to avoid any caused embarrassment.
 
Thanks for patience.
 
Please accept my sincere regards.

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[Dina Abou ouf]

I see now that we are in a “how to write your cv” or “how to be mean to others” course, I didn’t see anything like that before!!

Sending my cv to apply for a job and then receive back an email telling me that I have this or that mistake!!!!! It’s not a professional way of recruiting or being an HR coordinator. Instead of wasting your time for viewing and correcting cv’s you can read more articles or take a course in human resources and recruiting. I guess you are one of those who believe that they are better than others and should give advices to everyone but it seems that you don’t give it to yourself. No one asked your opinion and keep your opinion to yourself. You asked for cv’s and if you don’t see them suitable send an apologize email as the professionals or just shut up.

 

 

Dina Abou Ouf

 

 

 

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ATTN: Mr Tarek Al Faham
 
Actually even I am not interested in your CV but would like to inform you that you should refer your CV to a professional before submitting to a company for job. There seem to be several mistakes in your CV.
 
RFawzy already pointed out one spelling mistake. Although I am not an expert but would give you some other mistakes that need to be corrected:
 
In Duties, the 3rd one should start with "Auditing and analysing...."
In General Skills, the 1st one should start with "Fond..." instead of "Found"
 

There are many more errors. Kindly have them corrected because you mention "English   very Good written & spoken"
 
Wish you good luck.

 

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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:19:02 +0200
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To: tareke...@yahoo.com; job...@googlegroups.com

Actually I am not interested in  your CV but I figured out that you spelled HOPYES wrongly in case you want to send it to other HR you should correct it first.

 

 

 

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Gentlemen,
              I have been watching this mailing list from time to time.  I should say It's a good idea by the founder which I happen to know in person.
I also noticed this  thread that started in relevance to one of the applicants who posted his resume for HR specialists/ Hiring officers to see, and possible consider.
With due respect to all who have made a comment about this e-mail that I am replying to, I think that the lady did not mean any harm with her comment about the person who posted his resume.  On the contrary, the applicant should be thankful for her positive professional comment.  I don't think it matters a lot how she made it as much as the benefit to the applicant.  I hope he learned something from this.  Not just to correct his spelling, but to learn to be more observant and always proof-check any document he deals with in the future, especialy if it is destined to reach the hands of professionals or hiring officers.  We are all are going through a continuous learning curve and we should be ready to accept criticism as long as it is positive and to our benefit.


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[Muhammad Gad]

I totally agree with you Mrs. Dina.
 

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Please, no further correspondences, ALL of your concerns are equal.
Kindly, keep this group professional and consistent,

Thank you all,

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[Elbasha]

I do second Ms Abou ouf with her comment. As the reply from this HR person was unprofessional and gives a bad impression of who ever thinks working for this company , as that reflect the work enviroment there.


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Alpha Computer Institute ( U.A.E.)
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Agree with you Mrs. Dina.

 

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Dear All,   All of us doing mistakes, let us be easier to each other, I did a mistake when I answered this mail because it is not to me, but to somebody called Tarek Al-Faham, and Mrs. Reham talked directly without mentioning to whom she is talking.   As I told before I am not an accountant, I am a PMO/IT director, that is why I am telling that there is some misunderstanding.   Any way I am sure that Mrs. Reham tried to do a good thing by advice the candidate, but she does not know how to do it, my advice to you Mrs Reham is to consider yourself in his position and you will know how to write the mail.   thank you every body and let us always learn, and always help each other, I am sure that this nice misunderstanding can make all of us friends.     Mohamed Al-Shorbagy   966 502983411     --- On Mon, 12/14/09, sanousi abujula <san...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: sanousi abujula <san...@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [ JobawY ]

To: tareke...@yahoo.com, job...@googlegroups.com, rfa...@efg-hermes.com, msho...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:21 PM Wait a minitue, wait a minitue! Mrs Reham is right. If Mr. Shorbagy's accounting skills are at the level of his English lanuage skills, then nobody is going to hire him during this milinium. Mrs Reham has every right to advise Mr. Mohamed Shorbagy on how to present and maket himself to recruiters. Since the advise is presumed to be free of charge, then she has every right to word it the way she likes, including 4 -letter words, 5, 8, 18 or 88 letter words. You , the other guys are pathetic and useless, you saw the guy committing horrible mistakes and you have done nothing about it. However when , whatever her name is, tried to help him, all of you jumped on her back. That is a farce.     --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Mohamed shorbagy <msho...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mohamed shorbagy <msho...@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [ JobawY ] To: tareke...@yahoo.com, job...@googlegroups.com, rfa...@efg-hermes.com Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 12:40 AM

Dear,   I do not remember that I sent you any CV, and in my CV no word like you mentiond, I think their is some missunderstanding, but thank you for your advice.   Any way,your language is very taugh, while no need for that, when you deal next time with candidates, I am suggesting to mention something like thank you for your interesting.. ext, and then appologize that you do not have a chance or the CV is not matching the job specefication ..   Then say some thing like I hope the best for you, then your name or signature.     Regards,   Mohamed Al-Shorbagy    966 502983411 --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Fawzy, Reham <rfa...@EFG-HERMES.com> wrote:

From: Fawzy, Reham <rfa...@EFG-HERMES.com> Subject: RE: [ JobawY ] To: tareke...@yahoo.com, job...@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 9:19 AM

Actually I am not interested in  your CV but I figured out that you spelled “HOPYES” wrongly in case you want to send it to other HR you should correct it first.

 

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[Wael kanaan]

Dear Hussam,   i totally agree with you,,, but it was uncalled for to say (Actually I am not interested in   your CV ) there is more professional wordings.   regards,   Wael K   --- On Tue, 12/15/09, hossam farag <hossa...@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: hossam farag <hossa...@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [ JobawY ] To: job...@googlegroups.com Cc: rfa...@efg-hermes.com, tareke...@yahoo.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 1:05 AM

Gentlemen,               I have been watching this mailing list from time to time.  I should say It's a good idea by the founder which I happen to know in person. I also noticed this  thread that started in relevance to one of the applicants who posted his resume for HR specialists/ Hiring officers to see, and possible consider. With due respect to all who have made a comment about this e-mail that I am replying to, I think that the lady did not mean any harm with her comment about the person who posted his resume.  On the contrary, the applicant should be thankful for her positive professional comment.  I don't think it matters a lot how she made it as much as the benefit to the applicant.  I hope he learned something from this.  Not just to correct his spelling, but to learn to be more observant and always proof-check any document he deals with in the future, especialy if it is destined to reach the hands of professionals or hiring officers.  We are all are going through a continuous learning curve and we should be ready to accept criticism as long as it is positive and to our benefit. Best Regards, Hossam Farag Country Engineering Manager BJ Services C. I. Ltd. Egypt Tel :  +202 758-4350/1/2 Egypt Fax:  +202 758-4354 Egypt Cell : +20   12 235-2704 Website : www.bjservices.com Subject: RE: [ JobawY ] Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:19:02 +0200 From: rfa...@EFG-HERMES.com To: tareke...@yahoo.com; job...@googlegroups.com

Actually I am not interested in  your CV but I figured out that you spelled “HOPYES” wrongly in case you want to send it to other HR you should correct it first.

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[dansma...@hotmail.com]

Dear Friends,
I don’t know how my mail got subscribed on this forum and I suddenly started receiving these emails. I saw some interesting discussion on the forum that started with a CV posted by someone and then series of emails followed. I agree with Hisham that one must take constructive criticism positively and not feel offended. It is only to improve one’s salability.
Regarding the errors in resume, let me assure you friends that poorly done resume, poorly written, poorly formatted or poorly constructed ones are filtered and consigned to the Bin. Resume is a document by which you sell your capabilities /characteristics to organizations. It is akin to a product catalog depicting various products for sale. The way one packages the product is going to determine the success. Similarly a resume is packaging your entire self in couple of pages. I have been writing resumes for people from a long time now and I know how employers look at these especially when they have little time and a load of resumes to screen. Quite often in such cases employers read the first few lines and decide whether it is worth going through the whole document. Hence, It is absolutely important that the gist of you, your experience and your capabilities are condensed in two lines that employers would read before deciding to give it another shot.
More often than not, poor grammar or spellings are the reason for candidates not making to the interview phase. It is very important that resumes should be free of such mistakes. Better formatted resumes attract more attention. Better written resumes get more preference.
So my friends, any word of advice or any suggestion must be taken in good spirit.
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:05:38 -0500

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Subject: RE: [ JobawY ]

Gentlemen,
              I have been watching this mailing list from time to time.  I should say It's a good idea by the founder which I happen to know in person.
I also noticed this  thread that started in relevance to one of the applicants who posted his resume for HR specialists/ Hiring officers to see, and possible consider.
With due respect to all who have made a comment about this e-mail that I am replying to, I think that the lady did not mean any harm with her comment about the person who posted his resume.  On the contrary, the applicant should be thankful for her positive professional comment.  I don't think it matters a lot how she made it as much as the benefit to the applicant.  I hope he learned something from this.  Not just to correct his spelling, but to learn to be more observant and always proof-check any document he deals with in the future, especialy if it is destined to reach the hands of professionals or hiring officers.  We are all are going through a continuous learning curve and we should be ready to accept criticism as long as it is positive and to our benefit.


Best Regards,


Hossam Farag
Country Engineering Manager
BJ Services C. I. Ltd.
Egypt Tel :  +202 758-4350/1/2
Egypt Fax:  +202 758-4354
Egypt Cell : +20   12 235-2704
Website : www.bjservices.com

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Subject: RE: [ JobawY ]
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:19:02 +0200
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To: tareke...@yahoo.com; job...@googlegroups.com

Actually I am not interested in  your CV but I figured out that you spelled “HOPYES” wrongly in case you want to send it to other HR you should correct it first.

 

 

 

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[Hosam Mostafa]

Dear All,

I totally agree with Hossam Farag here below. He made the point that was in my head. I too read those emails coming from this group from time to time. I am a manager in an international organization and I from time to time hire people to work in my team or send their CVs to other teams in need.

When I get a CV that is full of mistakes, I tend to be VERY skeptical about the candidate. It just shows how careless one is...and of course no one hires irresponsible people. I am not saying that the person who sent his CV at the start of this thread is irresponsible, I am just pointing out the perception he might leave at the hiring manager.

Having said so, we - all of us - need to appreciate it when someone gives comments about our CVs...especially comments like those pointing out spelling mistakes. We also need to be realistic and if we think we cannot write a CV in the "most" presentable way (a CV is your first - and maybe the last- impression you will leave)...then we'd better ask for help in reviewing the CV from someone who is a pro in the subject...not just a  friend of us.

On the other hand, giving an advice to someone on a public email list is not the best way too....a single line address might be a good choice.

Salam,
Hossam

 

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Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:05:38 AM
Subject: RE: [ JobawY ]

Gentlemen,
              I have been watching this mailing list from time to time.  I should say It's a good idea by the founder which I happen to know in person.
I also noticed this  thread that started in relevance to one of the applicants who posted his resume for HR specialists/ Hiring officers to see, and possible consider.
With due respect to all who have made a comment about this e-mail that I am replying to, I think that the lady did not mean any harm with her comment about the person who posted his resume.  On the contrary, the applicant should be thankful for her positive professional comment.  I don't think it matters a lot how she made it as much as the benefit to the applicant.  I hope he learned something from this.  Not just to correct his spelling, but to learn to be more observant and always proof-check any document he deals with in the future, especialy if it is destined to reach the hands of professionals or hiring officers.  We are all are going through a continuous learning curve and we should be ready to accept criticism as long as it is positive and to our benefit.


Best Regards,


Hossam Farag
Country Engineering Manager
BJ Services C. I. Ltd.
Egypt Tel :  +202 758-4350/1/2
Egypt Fax:  +202 758-4354
Egypt Cell : +20   12 235-2704
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Subject: RE: [ JobawY ]
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:19:02 +0200
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Actually I am not interested in  your CV but I figured out that you spelled “HOPYES” wrongly in case you want to send it to other HR you should correct it first.

 

 

 

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[kareem hassan]

Dear all,

 

I think it ok to forget all about this and I think the candidate is more than satisfied by the way we are interested in his case which is not the issue

 

the issue "that the recruiter should care more about the candidate feelings cause eventually we all are active candidates"

 

Regards, 

Kareem Hassan 
HR Administrator

The Arab Contractors & Co.

Al Khuwair, Habroot House, Service Road, Muscat, Sultanate of Oman.

Tel.: (+968) 9988-0 760

Fax :(+968) 2445-5 281

From: Wael kanaan

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