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Alex C

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Nov 1, 2023, 5:52:45 AM11/1/23
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Hi!

I found this list by chance, because it's linked in very few places of jmap.io. Is it still active? Are the questions about use I'm posting below better suited for a different medium (such as the other list)?

I want to experiment with JMAP with my main email addresses, but I'm not ready to take the plunge yet. I was setting up about setting up a server and using an IMAP-to-IMAP synchronizing tool (offlineimap, isync, etc.) to do a bidirectional sync of my mail addresses to my server.

This would achieve two things a) I would have a backup of my email b) I could use JMAP clients on my email.

Is anyone doing something similar with good results? My two email addresses are GMail and Yahoo (I believe Yahoo IMAP is fairly vanilla). Anyone can recommend a good combination of tools?

Cheers,

Álex


Bron Gondwana

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Nov 2, 2023, 9:46:24 AM11/2/23
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On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, at 05:52, Alex C wrote:
Hi!

I found this list by chance, because it's linked in very few places of jmap.io. Is it still active? Are the questions about use I'm posting below better suited for a different medium (such as the other list)?

"active" is an interesting concept.  It's still alive, though rarely used.

There's plenty of JMAP activity happening elsewhere, the working group at IETF:


And the "Make Better Email" conference which I'm sitting in right now!  Where I've just done some interoperability testing between Cyrus IMAP and the TMail client:


I want to experiment with JMAP with my main email addresses, but I'm not ready to take the plunge yet. I was setting up about setting up a server and using an IMAP-to-IMAP synchronizing tool (offlineimap, isync, etc.) to do a bidirectional sync of my mail addresses to my server.

This would achieve two things a) I would have a backup of my email b) I could use JMAP clients on my email.

Is anyone doing something similar with good results? My two email addresses are GMail and Yahoo (I believe Yahoo IMAP is fairly vanilla). Anyone can recommend a good combination of tools?

You could run a Cyrus IMAP (see the docker server above as an example) - which will give you a pretty comprehensive JMAP server, though I haven't yet set up email sending.

Alternatively, you could look at Stalwart, it seems pretty awesome:


There may be others, but I don't know them so well.  Of course there's my old Perl JMAP-Proxy, but it's very stale now.

Cheers,

Bron.

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  Bron Gondwana


Alex C

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Nov 3, 2023, 3:54:21 PM11/3/23
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Hey!

On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 2:46:24 PM UTC+1 br...@fastmail.fm wrote:
"active" is an interesting concept.  It's still alive, though rarely used.

There's plenty of JMAP activity happening elsewhere, the working group at IETF:


And the "Make Better Email" conference which I'm sitting in right now!  Where I've just done some interoperability testing between Cyrus IMAP and the TMail client:


Yeah, but I thought my questions were not well-suited for the WG. This list doesn't have much activity, so I was wondering what's the proper place for "user" discussions.
 
I want to experiment with JMAP with my main email addresses, but I'm not ready to take the plunge yet. I was setting up about setting up a server and using an IMAP-to-IMAP synchronizing tool (offlineimap, isync, etc.) to do a bidirectional sync of my mail addresses to my server.

This would achieve two things a) I would have a backup of my email b) I could use JMAP clients on my email.

Is anyone doing something similar with good results? My two email addresses are GMail and Yahoo (I believe Yahoo IMAP is fairly vanilla). Anyone can recommend a good combination of tools?

You could run a Cyrus IMAP (see the docker server above as an example) - which will give you a pretty comprehensive JMAP server, though I haven't yet set up email sending.

Alternatively, you could look at Stalwart, it seems pretty awesome:


There may be others, but I don't know them so well.  Of course there's my old Perl JMAP-Proxy, but it's very stale now.

Yeah, the proxy would be ideal- it would allow me to play with JMAP clients without much effort. But I was worried about staleness, yes.

I might give Stalwart a shot- I'm a Rust fan :)... But I was concerned that sync'ing my email bidirectionally to a JMAP-aware server might become an endless pain- esp. GMail. I understand my use case is rare, but if anyone is doing something similar, it would be reassuring, and useful to know known-good tool combinations to achieve this.

(Or I could just get a Fastmail account- I had one back in the day and loved it...)

Álex
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