Garmin Water Bottle

[Trula Muldoon]

Idid a ride with my Edge 830, and when looking at it in Garmin Connect it says I consumed 1100 calories and drank 2250ml water during my ride. I did not record any eating or drinking. I had one reminder very early in the ride to drink, but then no more during the rest of the ride. So how do I set it up? I like the reminder feature, because I always forget to drink during my rides, and usually arrive home with an untouched bottle of lukewarm water. But how do I stop it from automatically recording I eat or drink? Seems like an idiotic feature, since the Edge can't possibly know what I eat or drink on my ride!

Of course I already knew checking the Owner's manual was a waste of time, why don't they fire the moron(s) responsible for user manuals, like suggested other places on this forum? Is it so f***ing hard to write up a decent user manual?

When you're finished recording your ride, select Save Ride, and then scroll down on the Summary page.

You can select Calories Consumed or Fluid Consumed to enter your calorie and fluid intake.

Your calorie and fluid intake will then be saved to the summary for the ride and will also appear in the activity summary in Garmin Connect when you sync your device.

I think you are misunderstanding. That is what you should have consumed during your ride to make up for the calculated energy and fluid loss. It is a total of all the prompts it gave you during the ride. You can override it with actual data at the end if you know what you actually consumed. I do not know if this calorie calculation is skewed toward your height, weight and age data in your profile or any of the sensor data like speed etc, or even weather data is part of the calulations. I have a feeling it might be skewed toward something as the fluid and calorie intake prompts arent just equi-distant apart relative to time. I have a feeling that you just missed all the other prompts, mine bleeps and appears over the map so its not hard to miss! But I find the auto-disappear interval for the message a tad too long and it hides the map often at important moments. I agree with your User Interface comment, I find specialist apps tend to have poorly designed interfaces with convoluted menu structures.

If the hydration automatically recorded is the recommended quantity, then why does the quantity show as hydration consumed in the Garmin Connect app where it offers manual entry for recording/tracking daily fluid intake? Also, I am not conscious of the prompts, though I have inadvertently had my Garmin set to send them. Are they only visible when using the map? Thank you.

After long rides the 830 has me put in how many water bottles I drank and how many calories I consumed. Where does this information go? Is it displayed somewhere or used for any recovery statistic? I put it in, but don't know what happens then.

Also, with acclimation, I get a message like today that I was 73% heat acclimated, and there is a message that I can look at some widget to see more information, but I cannot find where that is after I click out of the screen. Where can I look at more details about this?

Surely you meant to start a new thread rather than reply to aweatherall's post? Anyway, I can't speak for the pedals but in terms of the fluid bottles - you can set the volume of a bottle under settings, is there any way your bottle size is/was set to something tiny accounting for the crazy bottle count on fluid loss?

You should contact Garmin at their 1-800 number on the pedals, they have been very helpful getting mine working right and they are easy to get a hold of if you call them in the last half of the week. Monday's there can be quite a backlog wait time

As you can see, my head is forward of the unit already. If I place my head down and look back towards myself, I can see it. Otherwise, no love. And doing that frequently means my aero-helmet is going straight up in the air.

Looking at these first results, we see that the fastest setup is no hydration at all on the front bars. The slowest option would be the old-school Aerodrink system. The Aero HC sits roughly in the middle of those two. Neither fastest or slowest.

Seems like a great bottle as long as the fit works for you, like you said. If your head was further back then you would be able to see it. Regardless of that- I think its probably the nicest BTA bottle out there today and probably more aero than the other options. I will buy one and try it out for myself.

Cervelo come to a different conclusion about a bottle on the aerobars:

link to lavamagazine.com

But the position they tested seems different from yours in that the hands were close together with elbows apart vs it looking like your arms are parallel. So the water bottle in their test filled in the empty space behind the hands decreasing turbulence there.

Seems like they are only worried about aerodynamics from what the air first hits and ignoring the impact of rough air behind an object. (if a fairing was added between the bike computer and the bottle it could be better. Why do you think adding a Bento box can be more aerodynamic? It can smooth out the air behind the stem

Hmmm. It would be interesting to eliminate the computer mount from the back, flatten the front of the bottle, and add a nose cone to the front of the mount with a mounting bar inside. Kind of like a mini motorcycle fairing. I would also switch positions of the drink tube and fill port. These changes would have you looking just slightly downward to see the GPS, and would make it easier to access the straw. The front of the nose cone would possibly extend beyond the bars as you would need a gap for the GPS mount.. But, that might improve aerodynamics.

You can turn the entire mount around (with bottle), but the included bottle is unable to go in the opposite direction as the mount due to the little edging of the mount at the (normally) rear of the bottle holder.

Any idea if they have any plans to sell just the mount part (ie minus the fancy bottle)? It looks like it would work decently in the reverse position (ie computer in front) with just a standard bottle or the Speedfil A2?

Also, in the pictures you show the Garmin tilted on a 45 degree angle. Was that just you trying to get it further forward, or does it not move far enough out to mount the computer parallel to the ground?

I think if you would have pulled the mount back a bit and tilted the garmin flat, instead of 45 degress, then you would have been able to see it better. also, not everybody uses a garmin and I think you would be able to see a smaller computer just fine- I think the takeaway from your article is that you just have to try it for yourself and see if it works.

Depends on your hand position, if your hands are touching each other so so blocking wind from hitting the front of the bottle then reversing the bottle will make it more aero as the pointed nose will decrease the turbulence of the air coming off the bottle

Did Profile Design take your recommendation of changing the computer mount or making the braket more Aerodynamic? If so I may just wait until v2.0 is released to the public. They may have the kinks figured out by then.

Yeah I am sure it will be a while until Profile Design makes changes. I am just going to stick to my BTA Speedfill System for now. In time some one will figure out a better design that work with a computer mount.

I normally worry less about aerodynamics than some. However, it goes both ways. Eventually, all things add up. A few minutes here on a water bottle, a few minutes on an aerohelmet, a few minutes on the right cage setup.

good review as usual

Will add that I think the utility of the device is definitely a fit related issue. I had the speedfill version of the device which I couldnt get to work without having to contort my neck into weird positions. This one fits like a dream. I am on a specialized shiv which is a more relaxed position and maybe this has a lot to do with it.

if your normal set up is close enough together to sit the bottle on top you could zip tie it down and lose the bracket altogether, so allowing unlimited for and aft placement, bottle option only would be nice ;)

I used the steer tube as the mount for my xlab front bottle mount. I only use the carbon plate and xlab cage and there is no need for the bracket or straps. Use the steer tube bolt through the cage, carbon plate, and then into the headset. It is very secure. The beauty is I have my garmin 810 on a barfly mount in front of the bottle on the aero bars. I took my bar tape all the way around the barfly mount. It is hidden from the wind behind my hands. I do not have to move much at all other than look down slightly to see my numbers on the garmin. I would post a picture, but I do not see an attachment option here.

some plexiglass (carbon fiber is better of course), tie-wraps, screws, a bottle cage, bottle, and a high5 zero tube (with a straw from an aerodrink). The SRM computer perfectly in sight, no leaking water and easy to refill the computer is not centered because of the wire this SRM is using, it is too big to fit in otherwise.

Commenting solely on my experience with this I can say that the mount is basically worthless. However, since I have a 910XT I can simply keep it on my wrist if I need to monitor my metrics constantly. Vibrating and unsecured bottles is a constant complaint of all of PD water bottles. Two of my friends had their bottles fall off while riding! However, from my experience these mounts were improperly installed to begin with. There should be very little movement in the bottle when it is properly mounted with the top bracket installed.

The appropriate error is called the standard error in the mean, and, contrary to popular belief, is not the same thing as the standard deviation. It is the standard deviation divided by the square-root of the number of measurements. Without a good reason and/or outlier bias correction, this should be first calculated using the full data-set. That gives an error of 0.0022

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