Gitter

[Matt Raible]

Hello everyone,

It seems our Gitter channel is full of questions and no answers. This is a bad look for us a project. I think we should try to foster our community somehow. I know that many of us are older, wiser, and with other priorities now, so let’s take advantage of our financial situation. 

I propose we use funds from Open Collective to pay folks to be moderators for a certain period of time. For example, someone could be the October moderator for 1000 USD. I imagine this would require a commitment of 10 hours. If you want to do it for less time, we could do 500 for 5 hours. We could split this responsibility between multiple folks if we have multiple volunteers. We should probably start with core members as moderators.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

Matt

[Julien Dubois]

Hi Matt, oh I totally forgot about Gitter… I had a look, and I don’t see that much activity on it. There’s some spam, some new developer being lost, and of course businesses looking for free help (there’s one person asking about connecting to LDAP, another to Elasticsearch, that’s typically business stuff).

I would rather close it than spend money on this:

- money is better spent in improving the product, in the end we impact far more people than just 1 developer asking a question

- if businesses struggle to use JHipster, I believe we already give them a lot of time & effort, they don’t need also our money. Also, none of them sponsor the project, and we’ve proposed for years to sponsor bug bounties… It’s supposed to go both ways at some point.

Now there’s an interesting discussion to have in helping young developers get started in JHipster, and more widely in IT. As a non-profit, we can totally use our money to help new developers, and I find this would be a great goal for us. I just wouldn’t do this through Gitter, but with some other non-profits which are specialised in this.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

Matt

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[Renan Franca]

Hello everyone,

Thank you, Matt, for bringing this interesting discussion. 

I agree with what Julien said. I believe there is already a good channel for resolving queries, which is Stack Overflow:  

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/jhipster?tab=Newest. 

It would be great if this link were promoted on the site as a source of knowledge and a place to encourage posting questions. 

Going a bit further, theoretically, the answers on Stack Overflow will also feed into LLM chats, like ChatGPT, for example. 

Regarding helping beginners, I was introduced to JHipster through Matt's video, which is excellent as an entry point and provides an overview of what developers can expect. 

Nowadays, developers contact me via DM on LinkedIn, and I give them my full attention and support because I remember myself at the beginning, and direct conversation has a powerful motivational impact, encouraging them to continue studying the project and become potential contributors. 

I mention this because Anthony Viard responded to me and spoke with me directly in the LinkedIn group, and I felt very welcomed. Later, when I was blogging, we had other conversations through comments, etc.

I don't yet have a suggestion for how we could engage new developers. If I come up with an idea, I'll share it with you.

Thanks,

Renan Franca

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[Vishal Mahajan]

I believe `GitHub Discussions` and/or `Stack Overflow` should be the way forward.

Cheers,

Vishal

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[Matt Raible]

The main reason I mentioned Gitter is because our new website has an icon for it in the header. Maybe we should change it to Stack Overflow instead? There’s already a GitHub icon, so it doesn’t seem like we should have another link for GitHub Discussions.

[quentin.monmert]

I did a PR to replace Gitter with Stackoverflow in the header if it can help https://github.com/jhipster/jhipster.github.io/pull/1388