If one believes that human language has a single origin (held by some
Russian linguists, who try to reconstruct "proto-world"), just as
genetically H. sapiens has a single male and single female progenitor
[living millennia apart], one can call this language proto-anything,
e.g., proto-Hebrew, or antediluvial Hebrew, or as Roman Jakobson said in
another context "Ivan Ivanovich".
Jules Levin
> To: "
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> Languages <
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> Subject: Re: [Jewish Languages] Re: possible Hebrew meaning of Spanish
> surname
>
> My friend Sasha just does not understand the basic point. EVERY name
> and every word is from Hembrew.
>
> On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:31 PM, 'Alexandre Beider' via Jewish Languages
> <
jewish-l...@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:
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>
>> 1. There is no need searching for a Hebrew meaning of a surname borne
>> by a Converso.
>>
>> At the end of the 15th century, during the conversion, former Jews
>> were necessarily replacing their surnames by the new ones, purely
>> Christian.
>> At the end of the 14th century and the beginning of the 15th century,
>> a few cases are known when Iberian Jews were keeping their previous
>> surnames even after the conversion. Yet, one-two generations later
>> these families were also changing their surnames.
>>
>> Also note that even before the conversions, only a few surnames borne
>> by Jews were based on Hebrew. A large majority of surnames were based
>> on various Iberian idioms or Arabic.
>>
>> 2. Jambrina in Spain and Ham(b)ran/Hambron are totally independent
>> surnames.
>>
>>
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