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[Jimmy]

Hi,

I just found out that GotQuestions dot org is using the NIV (New International Version) of the Bible: see attached screen shot of the source code of one of their web pages.

"...our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you... in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest (twist), as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness." 2nd Peter 3:15-17

As you can read here at
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NIV/why.htm

the Jesus-Is-Savior web site says: If you are using the New International Version (NIV) of the Bible, and continue to do so after reading this article, then you are truly blinded by Satan, or just don't care. As seen in the verses above, Peter admits that some Scriptures are hard to understand. Just as today, there we're unlearned (Greek, amathes, i.e., ignorant) people back then who corrupted the Word of God. Nothing is new today. Just as the Trojans were woefully deceived by the warring Greek armies, who used a gift horse to conquer them - so is the NIV a Trojan Horse filled with deceit and lies waiting to DESTROY YOU!

Notice that in verse 17 above, the Bible calls Bible-corrupters WICKED! The word "stedfastness" in verse 17 means to be doctrinally sound in the Christian faith. The wicked people who put the NIV together were not doctrinally sound. In fact, they readily admit this in the preface to the NIV. Look for yourself. They state that they wanted to publish a new Bible that was free of any sectarian bias (i.e., that wouldn't offend any particular religious group). So they got everybody together, compromised the Word of God, and published a perverted Bible that satisfied each group. Of course, there were no blood-washed, born-again, Christ-honoring, Hell-fire and damnation, Sin-hating, soulwinning believers invited.  Their STATED MAIN PURPOSE was not to preserve THE TRUTH; but rather, to publish a translation that was non-offensive to the participating religious denominations (i.e., WIDELY MARKETABLE). The NIV is as ecumenical as you can get (i.e., they all set aside their doctrinal differences in sinful compromise to further one-world religious unity). Biblically, God commands us to be divided by truth, rather than be united by error (2nd Corinthians 6:14-17). The Word of God magnifies TRUTH; whereas, the devil's crowd magnifies UNITY. 

[empireuniverse]

Hi Jimmy,

I've seen some videos on the NIV compared to the King James, and there
were certainly some red flags. In fact, I will not buy a copy of the
NIV for that reason. So you see that I also have concerns with the
NIV. However, with that being said, I have yet to find anything on the
gotquestions.org website that caused me to think there may be false
doctrine. They may not use the best translation, we can agree on
that, but their articles on various topics appear fairly accurate in
my opinion. In my searches on the site in question, I haven't
personally come across anything that looked like false teaching.
thanks for your comment.

On Aug 2, 2:50 pm, Jimmy <ji...@muscleboykanan.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just found out that GotQuestions dot org is using the NIV (New
> International Version) of the Bible: see attached screen shot of the
> source code of one of their web pages.
>
> "...our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him
> hath written unto you... in which are some things hard to be understood,
> which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest (twist), as they do
> also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore,
> beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being
> led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness."
> 2nd Peter 3:15-17
>

> As you can read here athttp://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NIV/why.htm

>  GotQuestions_Using_NIV.png
> 82KViewDownload

[Jimmy]

I'm sorry but that's a lame excuse: you cannot worship God and the
devil at the same time. You have to make a choice. At this page

http://www.gotquestions.org/questweek.html

we can clearly see that GotQuestions is openly citing from the NIV
(New International Version) at

http://bible.logos.com/

However they also could have cited the KJV (King James Version) which
they don't do. The NIV is a counterfeit Bible!

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/

is an approved website of yours, and you have copied 6 pages from the
exact same site jesus-is-savior dot com. This site has a very large
section at its home page which defends the King James Bible, and tells
us that all modern Bible versions are corrupt. There are many links at
the jesus-is-savior home page telling us that the NIV is NOT God's
Word.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NIV/not_gods_word.htm

The NIV perverts the deity of Jesus Christ!
The NIV perverts the virgin birth!
The NIV removes the blood of Jesus Christ!
The NIV perverts John 3:16 into a LIE!
The NIV perverts TRUTH into LIES!
etc.

http://www.av1611.org/niv.html

Here you can check for yourself the differences between the KJV and
the modern versions:
http://www.av1611.org/kjv/counterfeit.html

Because GotQuestions is only citing the NIV Bible, it is perverting
the Word of God. It is Satan himself at work!
I compare it with the apparitions of Our Lady in Fatima, Lourdes,
Alabama, Medjugorje and elsewhere in the world. There also doesn't
seem to be anything in her messages that may be false doctrine (we
know better!). However i hope you may find false teaching at the
GotQuestions site simply because they only use the NIV as reference.
And i hope you agree with me after you've read this web page:

http://www.av1611.org/kjv/counterfeit.html

Jimmy

[empireuniverse]

Hi Jimmy,

As I've stated, I don't use or approve of the NIV. I do agree with you
that there is something wrong there, and some of the things that they
have left out in the NIV can't be to mere chance. It certainly appears
intentional.

I will admit that you have me in a dilemma, which I'm sure you well
aware what that is. The dilemma is that their articles and doctrine
are correct but unfortunately they use the NIV. Now I can say that
personally, gotquestions has helped me. I find the articles quite good
and truthful. Furthermore, when I want to read the bible, I open the
good book. I used the gotquestions site, not to actually read the
Bible, but to get "insight" and use it as only a guide. When I want to
read the Bible I go directly to the Bible. I don't read it online.

Below is their statement of faith: http://www.gotquestions.org/faith.html
Furthermore, the deity of Jesus: http://www.gotquestions.org/is-Jesus-God.html
...the virgin birth : http://www.gotquestions.org/virgin-birth.html
...the blood of Jesus : http://www.gotquestions.org/blood-of-Christ.html
....John 3:16 (Gotquestions lists 22 Bible translations, Including
King James) : http://www.gotquestions.org/John-3-16.html



Statement of Faith (on gotquestions.org)


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Section 1: The Bible
We believe the Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments, to be
the inspired, infallible, and authoritative Word of God (Matthew 5:18;
2 Timothy 3:16-17). In faith we hold the Bible to be inerrant in the
original writings, God-breathed, and the complete and final authority
for faith and practice (2 Timothy 3:16-17). While still using the
individual writing styles of the human authors, the Holy Spirit
perfectly guided them to ensure they wrote precisely what He wanted
written, without error or omission (2 Peter 1:21).

Section 2: God
We believe in one God, who is Creator of all (Deuteronomy 6:4;
Colossians 1:16), who has revealed Himself in three distinct Persons—
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (2 Corinthians 13:14), yet who is one in
being, essence, and glory (John 10:30). God is eternal (Psalm 90:2),
infinite (1 Timothy 1:17), and sovereign (Psalm 93:1). God is
omniscient (Psalm 139:1-6), omnipresent (Psalm 139:7-13), omnipotent
(Revelation 19:6), and unchanging (Malachi 3:6). God is holy (Isaiah
6:3), just (Deuteronomy 32:4), and righteous (Exodus 9:27). God is
love (1 John 4:8), gracious (Ephesians 2:8), merciful (1 Peter 1:3),
and good (Romans 8:28).

Section 3: Jesus Christ
We believe in the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ. He is God incarnate,
God in human form, the expressed image of the Father, who, without
ceasing to be God, became man in order that He might demonstrate who
God is and provide the means of salvation for humanity (Matthew 1:21;
John 1:18; Colossians 1:15).

We believe that Jesus Christ was conceived of the Holy Spirit and was
born of the virgin Mary; that He is truly fully God and truly fully
man; that He lived a perfect, sinless life; that all His teachings are
true (Isaiah 14; Matthew 1:23). We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ
died on the cross for all humanity (1 John 2:2) as a substitutionary
sacrifice (Isaiah 53:5-6). We hold that His death is sufficient to
provide salvation for all who receive Him as Savior (John 1:12; Acts
16:31); that our justification is grounded in the shedding of His
blood (Romans 5:9; Ephesians 1:17); and that it is attested by His
literal, physical resurrection from the dead (Matthew 28:6; 1 Peter
1:3).

We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ ascended to Heaven in His
glorified body (Acts 1:9-10) and is now seated at the right hand of
God as our High Priest and Advocate (Romans 8:34; Hebrews 7:25).

Section 4: The Holy Spirit
We believe in the deity and personality of the Holy Spirit (Acts
5:3-4). He regenerates sinners (Titus 3:5) and indwells believers
(Romans 8:9). He is the agent by whom Christ baptizes all believers
into His body (1 Corinthians 12:12-14). He is the seal by whom the
Father guarantees the salvation of believers unto the day of
redemption (Ephesians 1:13-14). He is the Divine Teacher who illumines
believers’ hearts and minds as they study the Word of God (1
Corinthians 2:9-12).

We believe that the Holy Spirit is ultimately sovereign in the
distribution of spiritual gifts (1 Corinthians 12:11). We believe that
the miraculous gifts of the Spirit, while by no means outside of the
Spirit’s ability to empower, no longer function to the same degree
they did in the early development of the church (1 Corinthians
12:4-11; 2 Corinthians 12:12; Ephesians 2:20; 4:7-12).

Section 5: Angels and Demons
We believe in the reality and personality of angels. We believe that
God created the angels to be His servants and messengers (Nehemiah
9:6; Psalm 148:2; Hebrews 1:14).

We believe in the existence and personality of Satan and demons. Satan
is a fallen angel who led a group of angels in rebellion against God
(Isaiah 14:12-17; Ezekiel 28:12-15). He is the great enemy of God and
man, and the demons are his servants in evil. He and his demons will
be eternally punished in the lake of fire (Matthew 25:41; Revelation
20:10).

Section 6: Humanity
We believe that humanity came into existence by direct creation of God
and that humanity is uniquely made in the image and likeness of God
(Genesis 1:26-27). We believe that all humanity, because of Adam's
fall, has inherited a sinful nature, that all human beings choose to
sin (Romans 3:23), and that all sin is exceedingly offensive to God
(Romans 6:23). Humanity is utterly unable to remedy this fallen state
(Ephesians 2:1-5,12).

Section 7: Salvation
We believe that salvation is a gift of God’s grace through faith in
the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross (Ephesians 2:8-9).
Christ’s death fully accomplished justification through faith and
redemption from sin. Christ died in our place (Romans 5:8-9) and bore
our sins in His own body (1 Peter 2:24).

We believe salvation is received by grace alone, through faith alone,
in Christ alone. Good works and obedience are results of salvation,
not requirements for salvation. Due to the greatness, sufficiency, and
perfection of Christ’s sacrifice, all those who have truly received
Christ as Savior are eternally secure in salvation, kept by God’s
power, secured and sealed in Christ forever (John 6:37-40; 10:27-30;
Romans 8:1, 38-39; Ephesians 1:13-14; 1 Peter 1:5; Jude 24). Just as
salvation cannot be earned by good works, neither does it need good
works to be maintained or sustained. Good works and changed lives are
the inevitable results of salvation (James 2).

Section 8: The Church
We believe that the Church, the Body of Christ, is a spiritual
organism made up of all believers of this present age (1 Corinthians
12:12-14; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 1:22-23, 5:25-27). We believe
in the ordinances of believer’s water baptism by immersion as a
testimony to Christ and identification with Him, and the Lord’s Supper
as a remembrance of Christ’s death and shed blood (Matthew 28:19-20;
Acts 2:41-42, 18:8; 1 Corinthians 11:23-26). Through the church,
believers are to be taught to obey the Lord and to testify concerning
their faith in Christ as Savior and to honor Him by holy living. We
believe in the Great Commission as the primary mission of the Church.
It is the obligation of all believers to witness, by word and life, to
the truths of God’s Word. The gospel of the grace of God is to be
preached to all the world (Matthew 28:19-20; Acts 1:8; 2 Corinthians
5:19-20).

Section 9: Things to Come
We believe in the blessed hope (Titus 2:13), the personal and imminent
coming of the Lord Jesus Christ to rapture His saints (1 Thessalonians
4:13-18). We believe in the visible and bodily return of Christ to the
earth with His saints to establish His promised millennial kingdom
(Zechariah 14:4-11; 1 Thessalonians 1:10; Revelation 3:10, 19:11-16,
20:1-6). We believe in the physical resurrection of all men—the saints
to everlasting joy and bliss on the New Earth, and the wicked to
eternal punishment in the lake of fire (Matthew 25:46; John 5:28-29;
Revelation 20:5-6, 12-13).

We believe that the souls of believers are, at death, absent from the
body and present with the Lord, where they await their resurrection
when spirit, soul, and body are reunited to be glorified forever with
the Lord (Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:23, 3:21; 1
Thessalonians 4:16-17). We believe that the souls of unbelievers
remain, after death, in conscious misery until their resurrection
when, with soul and body reunited, they shall appear at the Great
White Throne judgment and shall be cast into the Lake of Fire to
suffer everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:41-46; Mark 9:43-48; Luke
16:19-26; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9; Revelation 20:11-15).


Finally, gotquestions view on translations (http://
www.gotquestions.org/Bible-translations.html)



Why are there so many Bible translations / versions, and which is the
best?


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Question: "Why are there so many Bible translations / versions, and
which is the best?"

Answer: The fact that there are so many Bible versions is both a
blessing and a problem. It is a blessing in that the Word of God is
available to anyone who needs it in an easy-to-understand, accurate
translation. It is a problem in that the different versions can create
controversy and problems in Bible studies, teaching situations, etc.
The differences between the translations can also be a subject of
great division within the church body.

It is probably wise to have access to at least 2 or 3 of the major
translations KJV (King James Version), NIV (New International
Version), NAS (New American Standard), NKJV (New King James Version),
ESV (English Standard Version), NLT (New Living Translation), for
comparison's sake. If a verse or passage in one translation is a
little confusing, it can be helpful to compare it side-by-side with
another version. It is difficult to say which translation is the
"best." "Best" would be determined by a combination of the translation
method personally considered best and your interpretation of the
textual data underlying your translation. For example, the KJV and NAS
attempted to take the underlying Hebrew and Greek words and translate
them into the closest corresponding English words as possible (word
for word), while the NIV and NLT attempted to take the original
thought that was being presented in Greek and Hebrew and then express
that thought in English (thought for thought). Many of the other
translations attempt to "meet in the middle" between those two
methods. Paraphrases such as The Message or The Living Bible can be
used to gain a different perspective on the meaning of a verse, but
they should not be used as a primary Bible translation.

There are many more Bible versions out there. It is wise to have a
personal method for determining whether a particular Bible translation
is accurate. A good technique is to have a set of Scripture verses you
know well, and look those verses up in a translation you are unsure
of. A good idea is to look at some of the most common verses which
speak of the deity of Christ (John 1:1, 14; 8:58; 10:30; Titus 2:13)
to make sure a Bible version is true to the Word of God. We can be
confident that God's Word is truth, and that it will accomplish His
purposes (Isaiah 55:11; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; Hebrews 4:12).



Again, I haven't seen any false doctrine on their website. Obviously,
if you're King James Only, than your not going to like that they use
the NIV. But their teaching is correct. So do you throw away their
teaching and sound doctrine because they use the NIV? What if they
used the NLT? Would that be ok?

I view the King James Version as the #1 version. We should always
compare what is said to the KJV. Quite frankly, why don't you send
them a message and ask them why they use the NIV? They have a sound
doctrine, and yes, I agree that they can most definately use a better
translation than the NIV.

God Bless.
P.S. If anyone else is reading this discussion, please feel free to
comment.

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[Jimmy]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply and your own statement.

I also have been asking some questions to them (gotquestions) to be
able to answer someone in a particular yahoo group. Their articles and
answers are good and correct but i always compare them to the KJV. The
King James Bible 1611 is for me the base, the source. For me it cannot
be that so many important things have intentionally been
mistranslated.

1) Many counterfeits remove the words "worshipping him" and rob
worship from the Lord Jesus Christ. Some will replace "worshipping
him" with "kneeling down" or "kneeling before", but just simply
"kneeling" is not worship.

2) Many counterfeits change "God is a spirit" to "God is spirit". By
removing the critical article "a", the counterfeits teach an
impersonal, formless, esoteric, new-age "spirit god".

3) Many counterfeits refuse to translate the Greek word "haides".
Rather than translate "haides" to the word "hell", the counterfeit
will transliterate the Greek word "haides" into the English "hades".
By this trick the counterfeit attempts to extinguish the flames of
hell. Hades is not "hell". Hell is flames, torments, weeping and
wailing, complete darkness – forever. Hades is a new-age place of
purification, or a fantasy place in Greek mythology. The Assyrian
Hades is an abode of blessedness with silver skies called Happy
Fields.

4) Many counterfeits change the Holy Spirit from a loving, concerned
"Comforter" to simply another "Helper, Counselor".

5) Many counterfeits change the completed act of "saved" to the
working, in progress "being saved". With this change, the counterfeits
deny the complete and finished salvation in the blood of Jesus Christ
to a progressive, salvation by works. You are no longer "saved" but in
the process of "being saved". See also in 1 Corinthian 1:18 and 2
Corinthians 2:15.

and so on.
And i will ask qotquestions why they use the NIV.

Jimmy

On Aug 7, 4:35 am, empireuniverse <empireunive...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jimmy,
>

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[empireuniverse]

Hi Jimmy,


We're in complete agreement on the NIV. When you get a reply as to the
reason why GotQuestions chose to use the NIV, please post it here. I'm
curious what their answer will be. I hope that others who may read
this discussion, will see that we don't recommend the NIV at all. We
are on the same page with the NIV.


God Bless.

glenn

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>
> > Section 1: The Bible
> > We believe the Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments, to be
> > the inspired, infallible, and authoritative Word of God (Matthew 5:18;
> > 2 Timothy 3:16-17). In faith we hold the Bible to be inerrant in the
> > original writings, God-breathed, and the complete and final authority
> > for faith and practice (2 Timothy 3:16-17). While still using the
> > individual writing styles of the human authors, the Holy Spirit
> > perfectly guided them to ensure they wrote precisely what He wanted
> > written, without error or omission (2 Peter 1:21).
>
> > Section 2: God
>

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[Jimmy]

It's 22 August today, and i haven't received a reply from
GotQuestions. I guess they probably cannot stand the verb pervert, and
the word perversion. Or they only quote from the NIV intentionally.

Glenn, can you please change the links on your welcome page so that
they are pointing to the kjv at logos dot com?
Romans 5:8 -> http://bible.logos.com/passage/kjv/Romans 5.8
2 Peter 2:1 -> http://bible.logos.com/passage/kjv/2 Peter 2.1
Romans 1:18 -> http://bible.logos.com/passage/kjv/Romans 1.18
Romans 6:23 -> http://bible.logos.com/passage/kjv/Romans 6:23
John 3:36 -> http://bible.logos.com/passage/kjv/John 3.36

Jimmy

On Aug 8, 5:57 pm, empireuniverse <empireunive...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jimmy,
>