Christianity Not Up for Auction
ShuutokuTentei
been asking since the beginning of time is universal. Many ask who
Gods people are when the question should be; Where are God’s people?
Are they Haredi, Orthodox, Hasidic Jews? Are they Sunni, Shi’a,
Kharijite Islamics? Catholic, Baptist, Presbyterian Christians? And
what of the Zoroastrianist? Some believe the church organization is
ok. The truth is, it is not ok. The reason the church is not ok, nor
will it ever be ok, is because it is full of people, and people are
imperfect. People look to the church to find God and find the finite
and imperfect. The real living God is in peoples hearts, not church
parking lots. Even the “Archangel Ariel” understands such, but then
he lives in a different realm than you or I.
We all want to flee from those who say they embrace God, yet
savage their colleagues, neighbors, and friends with deception,
violence, and words that are designed to denigrate, deliberate, and
debilitate another. Shall they all hate on Saturday and feign love on
Sunday? Shall you and I look deep into our own mirrored reflection
searching the depths of our own eyes to see what lay deep inside
ourselves? Of what do we find? Are we Church like or Christ like?
Is our religion more important that our responsibility to God? Do we
have “Christ In” or use “Christ Out”?
Perhaps the most marvelous example of a “Anti Christian
Christian” is Jesus himself. His life is a profound example of
selflessness, sacrifice, sincerity, and sacred sacrament. “A sacred
sign that actually effects what it signifies”. Does God take pride in
all his people? Would Jesus be disappointed in those who use him in
vain? But then, if we no longer call ourselves Christians, what label
shall we wear. The world is full of labels, yet it is not the sticker
on my bumper, the church I attend, the choir in which I sing, nor the
pastor in which I praise, that binds me to God.
If I follow my eyes, I will see things I wish not to see. If I
follow my ears, I will hear things I wish not to hear. If I follow my
heart in search of God, and God’s people, it is impossible not to find
them. They are everywhere and nowhere, much closer than you think.
Be still and know …
ShuutokuTentei
Copyright2009
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Mathew Enoch Mount
One of the things that I know from the Reformed church is that they
often believe that having a relationship with Jesus can only involve
having a relationship with their local church, and this relationship
with Jesus is what brings salvation in their model. Their model
usually involves the local church keeping in covenant with God by the
overly legalistic administration of sacraments. The height of the
problem is when the Reformed church thinks that other churches are
wrong when they administer sacraments differently and as a result are
not in covenant with God and as a result are not the body of Christ.
The problem that I am talking about is very bad as it makes salvation
the responsibility of the person in charge of the church to have the
correct knowledge and ability to administer sacraments correctly to
bring about the body of Christ. The truth in the matter is that if
you are a Christen, then you can recognize other Christians very often
by a family resemblance and by seeing Christ appear in others as well
as by communing in the same spirit. Overall, when you see other
Christians and when you have communion with them in a matter of
worship, then they can wash each other’s feet as Jesus tells us to do
in order to make intercession of each other.
The intercession that I am talking about brings about greater
adherence to the divine law and the moral law through the special
grace of the love of God being invested into others by the members of
Christ such that a chain of investments of talents can occur causing
everyone to be held accountable to God through this bank of charity
(love). My point in this is that faith, that so to speak, comes about
through the love of God loving us is what produces the works that God
requires. The difference between Christianity and religious systems
that people make is that the resurrection of the dead, Christ the
intercessor between God and Man, exclusiveness to only our God, and
the law of Moses really set us apart from everything else.
No one in the world that makes up a system to explain the world comes
to the conclusion that God can raise the dead (as far as I know), and
most even do not come to the conclusion that God can make all of
reality out of nothing. Most all man made systems of religion do not
compel their followers to offer themselves as living sacrifices for
the service of others in joy and out of love on such a mass scale that
the entire world changes. Not only that but most all religions that
people make have everything to do with intellectual understanding of
the world and of God with laws that usually have more to do with
social justice than they have to do with God. Overall, the last point
to be made is that Christianity firmly stands on many centuries of
prophets that changed the course of nation Israel by doing such
incredible counter cultural demonstrations such as cooking food over
cow dung to prove a point as well as to testify about Jesus Christ
work hundreds of years before it happened.
Thank you,
Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com
ON EARTH Ministries
I believe this struggle you spoke of in your initial post is certainly ancient, and in contemporary times can be sort of an intellectual hamster wheel for the spiritually immature to spin in. This is not to say that the earnest yearning for theosis is by nature futile. On the contrary, I believe that earnest yearning for theosis IS orthodoxy (literally, ‘right-thinking’) and orthopraxy (‘right-practice’). My concern is that in the process of trying to figure out if we are ‘in’ we may be deciding for ourselves who is ‘out’, by contrast. We might even loose sight of the fact that Jesus not only died for our sins, but for all sins, and all sinners; for those committed by Haredi, Orthodox, Hasidic Jews, Sunni, Shi’a, Kharijite Muslims, Zoroastrians, Hindus and Buddhists of every ilk, as well as the Atheists. Indeed, Jesus the Christ died to atone for the very sin nature of all of mankind, past, present, and future.
Our Father, the Living God, bestows Grace on all.
And concerning the Roman Catholic, Baptist, Anabaptist, Pentecostal, Fundamentalist, Evangelical, Mormon, Coptic, Greek, Eastern, Syrian Orthodox, Full Gospel, Lutheran, Jehovah’s Witness, Methodists, Nazarene, and Presbyterian Christians, they ALL members of the one-and-only Church. A Church isn’t a denomination, organization or a building, it is a Family. A Family made possible by the Grace of our loving Father, through our Lord Jesus the Christ, realized and inspired through the revelation of the Holy Spirit. One God, one Love, one Salvation, and one Church.
And yes, we are ALL broken, shameful, imperfect sinners; all, from Adam to the Pope; the Sunday-morning-only to the cloistered and prayerful. But we are made perfect through Jesus the Christ. One might even say He is making up the difference, while our Father shapes us into His image, making us more and more like Jesus.
I think it is important to note that during His three-year earthly ministry Jesus didn’t surround himself with studious religious scholars and pious temple practitioners, but with men and women alike, with tax collectors, denying fishermen, doubters, zealots, and drinkers. All of the men scattered like cockroaches by the time He was crucified. He came for the ‘finite and imperfect’ and offers them infinite perfection through His Father’s Grace.
The ‘Real Living God’ IS in that parking lot. He’s there when a leader signs a peace accord, or behind some inner-city dumpster when hypothermia begins to set in on some homeless Soul, who is too high to even stand up. He’s there in the most unspeakable places on Earth as well as the most Holy. And He is aware of everything from the smallest particle to the largest nebula, all of the time, past present and future.
Ask our Holy Father why he stands by and watches while those that publicly profess Faith in Him, and Jesus the Christ, deceive, violate, denigrate, debilitate and hate others. Ask him why he allows exploitation, cruelty, murder, and the bloody throb of war to go on.
You may find Him asking, “Why do you?”
But staring in the mirror of self-examination isn’t necessarily the answer either. Offer yourself up to our Father, let him guide and direct you. And if there is some judging to be done, it is His prerogative. In case you haven’t noticed, it’s not all about you, or what you think, or how you feel.
((Perhaps the most marvelous example of a “Anti Christian
Christian” is Jesus himself. His life is a profound example of
selflessness, sacrifice, sincerity, and sacred sacrament. “A sacred
sign that actually effects what it signifies”.))
I know you don't mean to say that you marvel at Jesus for being the best example of the Antichrist. But you see? It’s a good example of what happens when we try to use worldly and linear concepts of "establishment" and "rebellion". Jesus was not "anti" anything. And if anyone wants to grab this statement by the tail for a rassle; hang on.
I believe He has a much larger agenda than mere religion or philosophy. He is essentially Pro-Truth.
The world is in rebellion. We as professing Christians, and followers of the Jesus Way, are here to establish a sort of beachhead in this occupied territory and prepare for the return of the King and His Kingdom. "On Earth, as it is in Heaven"
And I believe this "Pro-Truth" is about setting ALL 'wrongs' right. When he returns He will do no less than reorder the broken physics of the universe that allow for the entropy, death, and decay.
So, while we are looking down our noses at each other, measuring, judging and gossiping. While we are trying to decide whether we want to be identified with our sinful family members or not; let's try to remember that we are a Holy Nation of over two billion souls, a Kingdom where ALL are Priests. But most importantly, let's remember that we are Children of the One God, our loving Father.
I particularly liked the way you ended your post.
Stop struggling.
And the next time we feel compelled to ask the Father when the Kingdom of Heaven will reign on Earth, perhaps we will pause long enough to hear Him explain how the transition is already under way.
--Peace, and All Good Things,
Brother Larry Roy Woodsmall
ON EARTH MINISTRIES
Mathew Enoch Mount
I do believe that I understand your heart felt message Larry, but I
must propose the notion that if the blood of Jesus Christ is shed for
everyone on the world, then his blood would fail to redeem people in
the case of those that go to hell for a permanent dwelling. If Christ
tried to save everyone, but then he fails to save even one person,
then perhaps he would not be God because he would not be able to
complete what he started to do. Overall, my point in this is that if
we believe Christ to be the person of God the Son, then we should also
believe that everything that Christ attempts to do he succeeds at
doing.
You might point out Larry that Jesus prayed to the Father that the cup
be taken away from him, and you may then show that Christ attempted to
have something done by making appeals to God the Father but then
Christ was crucified anyway. I could be wrong but I believe that Adam
pointed out the fact that Christ emphasized to the father, "if you are
willing", and this shows that Christ held back from complete knowledge
in order to ask the father in sincerity. Overall, my conclusion thus
is that Christ does not and cannot attempt to do something only to
have it fail, and this is why those atoned by the blood of Christ
cannot go to hell.
I have attended and have had personal experience with a vast number of
so called ‘Christian’ people that can only parrot the denominational
theology of their church or the specific scriptural understanding of
the minister. When those church members encounter some one different,
then the church member in question makes the person encountered either
submit to the authority of the parroted theology or that person is
cast out of personal association. My point in all of this is that
when we see these things then we know that something is very wrong
because the twelve apostles as you indicate had been from just about
every persuasion including zealot, and what would hold all of the
eleven together is that they had communion with the lord himself and
drank his blood without being cut off like Judas was cut off.
The danger in my message that I just spoke is that people may take
this message, believe in it, have communion, and believe that their
denomination or their church contains all of the apostles of Jesus
Christ. People then would call the other denominations those that are
cut off like Judas, and as a result instead of communion occurring to
unify the church instead it brings division because people think that
their local minister is like Jesus Christ offering the sacraments and
everyone else that serves him is like all the apostles. Overall, we
should not assume that people are saved when they are not, and we
should not assume that people are not saved when they are, but on the
other hand we really are not saved until we are completely saved like
in the case of glorification.
Our best course of action perhaps is to do what Jesus did by having
Judas be his disciple for years in order that someone may hand Jesus
over to be crucified. This means that Judas interacts with all the
other disciples until he goes to his own destruction by his own
hands. Overall, we as a kingdom of priests should listen to the lord
(we should not listen to Judas), and by listening to the lord and
rebuking as he rebukes then we may rebuke Judas when he makes problems
for us as he opposes the ministry of Jesus Christ and goes to his
destruction as a result of the communion cup being passed his way
(Judas received Satan instead of the blood of Christ as the scripture
testifies).
Thank you,
Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com
On Dec 28, 8:24 pm, ON EARTH Ministries
ON EARTH Ministries
Although the truth that I am going to share with you is incredibly powerful, striking, and awesome it is at the same time one of the most offensive truths that I know of. Hopefully you will bear with me as I explain this truth, and note that the reason why you may never hear this kind of message from a pulpit anytime soon is because it is so very extreme. Having said that I will give the message to you without coating it, and I can imagine many upon hearing the message going into a rage because of how true it is.
“… one of my professors once said, "Any God who can be killed ought to be killed." To which I would add, any faith that can be undermined should be undermined. A God or a faith that needs you or me to prop it up has already died long ago. You do not need to defend a living God. Only dead gods seem to require that.”
– Bishop John Shelby Spong
I understand that, as an academic and theologian, it is you prerogative to take an analytical track regarding such issues, but:
v I find it interesting that you are willing to establish criteria by which Jesus and our Father can be judged to have passed or failed.
v Please examine the scripture regarding Jesus’ attempt to wake the Twelve, who were drunk and passed out, on the night of his arrest. Perhaps you will find a nugget of rationale you will be able use to understand on a broader level.
v Jesus’ experience on Earth was as fully human, as it was Godly. That was the point.
v I thought I made clear that Jesus the Christ died for the very sin nature of mankind. It was not an attempt. Whether or not we receive this gift or not has a great deal to do with whether we accept it or not.
v I understand your frustration with exclusionary denominationalism, which Jesus Himself seems to rebuke. That is why I attempt to see the point of sincere truth from which the individual ritual, practice, or doctrine might have sprung from originally, and work from there.
v I am also aware of the “great omission” from the “Great Commission” (Dallas Willard) that many congregations seem to exhibit, and feel the need for a fuller dedication to discipleship would be more appropriate.
v I find an almost indescribable irony in any sort of exclusionary pseudo-theology when it comes to the Eucharist, or anything that might fall under the moniker of ‘communion’. Certainly, all who profess to be Believers in the Father, and followers of the Jesus Way, are welcome to share Communion with me. In fact, I have presented the idea that we can receive the body and blood of Christ whenever we eat and drink, by being aware and prayerful during.
In conclusion, I would like to make a suggestion, if you will allow. Take to heart what Brother John had said regarding his congregation members, the human failings we share, and the stage of their spiritual development. Remember that, although you are a thoughtful and soft-spoken gentleman, you are also a tall and imposing figure, usually dressed in black and white; and are known to have an extensive education, as well as a very concise opinion of correctness. They are, in the strictest sense, CHILDREN of God. Do you think it might be more appropriate to establish a mode of operation that doesn’t intimidate, or scare the kids?
I suggest that our commission requires that we love and nurture these sheep, not test and verbally chastise. And we do not beat children for fighting. Gently redirect them, as Jesus would do with an angry mob. Save your rebuke for those on the pulpit who propagate a message contrary to the Good News about the Jesus Way, and don’t pre-judge the proto-Christians in the Pews. (Smile)
Love your enemies. Forgive all who owe you a debt; expect nothing in return. Forgive those who have committed sin in their treatment of you, and those who trespass on your territory. Offer even more service to those that burden you, and put you to task. If they hit you hard, get back up and offer them another shot. And if you didn’t do anything to deserve such treatment, or even better, if they smack you around because of your beliefs, that’s wonderful!
You are Blessed!
Mathew Enoch Mount
You have many valuable and important things to say Larry, and I would
like to point out that I was not talking about John’s church in this
thread to my knowledge as his church has many good qualities about it
because people do in fact have many gifts and the church is rather
open to many other types of ministries that express their gifts. I
have had a vast experience of attending local congregations for short
time visits, and I have a general idea of what kind of things occur in
the many churches that I have attended. Not only that but also I have
communicated with many ‘Christians’ outside of church, and I have
evaluated people in this context as well. My point in talking about
perceived shortcomings is that hopefully by doing this we will be able
to have a stronger understanding for how to address shortcomings in a
loving matter that is developmental.
Thank you,
Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com
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Peter VanGee
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Mathew Enoch Mount
Yes, their are people that believe in Christ and affirm his lordship
that are in hostile conditions to the gospel, but I do not think for
example that most people that worship in a Kingdom Hall as a Jehovah
Witness will be saved (this is because they say that Jesus is only a
man). From my understanding some Orthodox Jews are saved, but the
fact remains that most Orthodox Jews still oppose the savior because
they are not saved. Overall, we should not seek to remove those that
are saved from the place that God has put them because when we do then
we can render their ministry ineffective.
By the way I am not as much in favor of the reformed churches as what
people think that I am because many work diligently to keep the
covenant and stay in covenant without any real care for God. What use
is doing the works of the covenant in order to prove a person is
righteous before God if a person hates God to begin with. On the
other had what use is the covenant if a person loves God so much that
they do not need to be promised anything in order to love God.
Overall, I see covenant theology as a way for God hating people to get
something out of God without having to care for him, and even if a
person could keep the covenant in order to have eternal salvation
while hating God then they will be eternally unhappy to realize that
they will be before God for all eternity only to magnify their
experience of hatred him in order that those very emotions burns
against them forever.
God bless,
Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com
On Jan 4, 5:34 pm, Peter VanGee <petervan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Every morning I wake up, I look around at the world and I got this lie
> staring me in the face. Where are God's people? The good book says you can
> count 1 person in a 1000 among your friends. You'll find them among the
> Haredi, Orthodox, Hasidic Jews. Among the Sunni, Shi’a, Kharijite
> Islamics. Let us not forget the Catholic, Baptist, Presbyterian and yes -
> Matt - even the Reformed Christians. The Zoroastrianist, Mormon and
> Buddhist also. What about the other 999 out of a thousand. They spend their
> day following the other .1% around. Keeping their 'eye' on us. They're a
> bunch of blood sucking leaches. The great pretenders - the harlot that
> drinks the blood martyrs. Maybe someday they'll own up to their lie
> and make it to heaven.
>
> Know the Lord,
>
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Mathew Enoch Mount
I do not know how you are using the term sons of men.
Thank you,
Mathew Enoch Mount
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Peter VanGee
Mathew Enoch Mount
I understand your position now more fully Peter as I believe that I
had perhaps the same position about ten years ago, and my position
arose from Proverbs 8-9 that shows wisdom as being a pre-incarnate
expression of Jesus Christ. The death of Socrates then would
certainly appear to fit together with everything else, but their is a
problem. Perhaps the most significant problem is that certain people
that are mentally retarded that do not have the ability to choose
through reason would sort of be excluded in various ways. Many of
these people that my mother worked with for over a decade had been so
retarded that they could not dress themselves, and my mother has
indicated that some clearly show a saved nature while others show
themselves to clearly have demons.
My understanding that I developed, that was wrong, is that only God
can be wise and that man can love God. The problem with this view is
that Christ according to scripture has clearly imputed his
righteousness into us. Overall, if Christ has imputed his
righteousness into us, then salvation depends even more upon God’s
choice rather than man’s choice.
I understand your objection with teaching given that we should all be
taught by God as our anointing teaches us according to scripture. The
problem is that we may oppose God without knowing that we do, and we
may be scattered for various reasons. Overall, the institution of the
church to proclaim a teaching actually allows people to measure
themselves and others against that teaching in order to coordinate and
respond accordingly.
The biggest problem with embracing wisdom (Christ) at its fullest
extreme while rejecting everything else causes Christianity to be more
of a intellectual pursuit with very little to no corresponding works.
The problem that Judas faced is that he had a pursuit for wisdom of
Christ so to speak, but he did not have a element of service.
Overall, the problem thus was that Judas accepted Christ as teacher,
but he rejected Christ as Lord along with many of the Jews as well.
Intercession thus was perhaps the most important element of being a
disciple as at least eleven of the twelve assisted Jesus Christ.
Judas would have been the one that did not assist Jesus Christ for the
most part. Overall, my point is that many churches today act as if
doctrine is the most important element of being a Christian while
people focus mainly just on that, and then what happens is that people
become very knowing about Christ but they become very detached from
doing anything Christ like except for what they do in public to try to
prove their righteousness to the world.
One church that I attended for example focused their entire Sunday
worship around the Cub Scouts, and all the Cub Scouts attended in
uniform as the ministry gave the Cub Scout leaders a big pat on the
back while no one even appeared to care about anyone else in any way.
The church across the street just a week or two prior had everyone
stand that was involved in ministry as the entire congregation stood,
and the pastor gave everyone of them a big pat on the back so to speak
while I would not have guessed that any of them had been Christians
outside of church. Overall, both churches appeared to be by
invitation only like many in this aria (these invitations are very
slim to none), and once anyone new appears then everything is thrown
into confusion.
The question thus is if Christianity today measures up to New
Testament Christianity with Saint Paul sacrificing his life on many
occasions in order to share the gospel.
Thank you,
Mathew Enoch Mount
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I understand your position now more fully Peter as I believe that I
had perhaps the same position about ten years ago, and my position
arose from Proverbs 8-9 that shows wisdom as being a pre-incarnate
expression of Jesus Christ. The death of Socrates then would
certainly appear to fit together with everything else, but their is a
problem. Perhaps the most significant problem is that certain people
that are mentally retarded that do not have the ability to choose
through reason would sort of be excluded in various ways. Many of
these people that my mother worked with for over a decade had been so
retarded that they could not dress themselves, and my mother has
indicated that some clearly show a saved nature while others show
themselves to clearly have demons.
Just because I say Socrates was a 'son of man' doesn't mean I'm promoting reason as a form of salvation. Some people have better natures than others. So you pose an interesting question with regard to free will. I will say this, though, to be part of the lie you'd have to have knowledge of the lie. From my standpoint, even if you're mean - if you don't know that your mean - you'd be saved because you'd be like Jesus in that you did not know sin.
My understanding that I developed, that was wrong, is that only God
can be wise and that man can love God. The problem with this view is
that Christ according to scripture has clearly imputed his
righteousness into us. Overall, if Christ has imputed his
righteousness into us, then salvation depends even more upon God’s
choice rather than man’s choice.
Revelation state that all those who worship the beast will be condemned. From my standpoint, that is a choice made by man.
I understand your objection with teaching given that we should all be
taught by God as our anointing teaches us according to scripture. The
problem is that we may oppose God without knowing that we do, and we
may be scattered for various reasons. Overall, the institution of the
church to proclaim a teaching actually allows people to measure
themselves and others against that teaching in order to coordinate and
respond accordingly.
The biggest problem with embracing wisdom (Christ) at its fullest
extreme while rejecting everything else causes Christianity to be more
of a intellectual pursuit with very little to no corresponding works.
The problem that Judas faced is that he had a pursuit for wisdom of
Christ so to speak, but he did not have a element of service.
Overall, the problem thus was that Judas accepted Christ as teacher,
but he rejected Christ as Lord along with many of the Jews as well.
I don't see any evidence for any of this. For all I know Judas was there to keep his 'i' on Christ. Every 'work' takes some intelectual 'yes' to God.
Intercession thus was perhaps the most important element of being a
disciple as at least eleven of the twelve assisted Jesus Christ.
Judas would have been the one that did not assist Jesus Christ for the
most part. Overall, my point is that many churches today act as if
doctrine is the most important element of being a Christian while
people focus mainly just on that, and then what happens is that people
become very knowing about Christ but they become very detached from
doing anything Christ like except for what they do in public to try to
prove their righteousness to the world.
Let me make myself clear, other than the fact that teaching leads to disagreements. (of which we are shining examples - there is a method to my madness) I don't have a problem with doctrine or any of todays churches. What I have a problem with is 'the lie.' Nobody talks about it, so I do.
One church that I attended for example focused their entire Sunday
worship around the Cub Scouts, and all the Cub Scouts attended in
uniform as the ministry gave the Cub Scout leaders a big pat on the
back while no one even appeared to care about anyone else in any way.
The church across the street just a week or two prior had everyone
stand that was involved in ministry as the entire congregation stood,
and the pastor gave everyone of them a big pat on the back so to speak
while I would not have guessed that any of them had been Christians
outside of church. Overall, both churches appeared to be by
invitation only like many in this aria (these invitations are very
slim to none), and once anyone new appears then everything is thrown
into confusion.
The question thus is if Christianity today measures up to New
Testament Christianity with Saint Paul sacrificing his life on many
occasions in order to share the gospel.
The tree has grown. It is going to look different.
Know the Lord,
Mathew Enoch Mount
Yes, Peter I do attend Church, but the Church that I attend in many
ways is not truly and fully my Church. In some regards we should all
be about making our own theology in order that we may be taught by God
directly instead of by men. I can understand your concern thus with
ending teaching, but when that happens God will set in place something
like an instant access to all understanding.
Knowledge then become like the water of a sea, and we become like sea
creatures that are not only fully submerged in it but we also
experience it directly. Not only that but also knowledge in my
understanding no longer has the encapsulation like in the case of
words because this is artificial. Not only that but also their no
longer is a distinction between knowledge and emotion. When we enter
this state, then we enter into God’s will perhaps. This experience
that I am talking about is what is known as God’s name in my
understanding.
Because of sin people have defiled God’s name as the body of Christ
and as the brotherhood of man in general, but when sin no longer
exists, then God’s name will be completely glorified and we will all
dwell within it. God’s name thus at that time will produce Art
through all of its elements by the principals of Art that God has set
in place, and God’s Art will be the same on the outside as it is on
the inside. Today Satan that was the most beautiful of angelic beings
has fallen, and because he cannot create substance but instead only
distorts the Art of God thus the elements of God’s name become defiled
in the world as Satan manipulates creation according to his will that
he has out of pride exalted over God’s will. Thus when God sings his
name so to speak and those elements of that name go forth sin and the
fallen angelic beings change the notes and try to transform that song
into something different.
For this very reason you will see a very beautiful woman that is a
model of perfection to the eyes, but inside is every kind of evil
known to man. You will see a business man in a suit and a car that is
a model of perfection, but beyond the surface is evil so incredible
that it would make a Professional woman vomit. The servants of evil
all have a understanding of beauty, and that understanding starkly
contrasts with God’s understanding of beauty. The true artist thus is
God himself, and some seek to manipulate that Art according to their
own conception of beauty while some seek to reconstruct the Art from
along ago with the broken parts, but rest assured that God will
restore his Art in the end by destroying the work of the evil artists
and then by remaking his work.
Thank you,
Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com
Peter VanGee
For this very reason you will see a very beautiful woman that is a
model of perfection to the eyes, but inside is every kind of evil
known to man. You will see a business man in a suit and a car that is
a model of perfection, but beyond the surface is evil so incredible
that it would make a Professional woman vomit. The servants of evil
all have a understanding of beauty, and that understanding starkly
contrasts with God’s understanding of beauty. The true artist thus is
God himself, and some seek to manipulate that Art according to their
own conception of beauty while some seek to reconstruct the Art from
along ago with the broken parts, but rest assured that God will
restore his Art in the end by destroying the work of the evil artists
and then by remaking his work.
You're creating hypotheticals to support your own theology. Use real examples.