Crippled Pregnant Homeless Foodless Woman: By Carbondale Manpower

[mmo...@essex1.com]

Hello,

A crippled pregnant homeless woman who was confined to crutches found me yesterday, and the woman
asked me if I would give her a ride to the back of the Manpower building in Carbondale, Illinois.
I gave the woman a ride, and I transported her sleeping supplies (that had almost been to heavy for
me to carry) that she apparently had carried cross town with her crutches. The woman asked me for
some food, so I brought her some food as she relaxed next to the Manpower building at the same
location that I believe that she intended to stay the night. Overall, I believe the woman's name
is Chris, so please pray for her, and if any of you ever find her, then feel free to offer her some
help (including gospel help).

I told a Baptist minister about what I did and about how I gave her his telephone number for future
help, and he appeared to be very upset about what I did. He claimed that by not giving her the
gospel but instead by giving her food instead that I was saying to her something like (and I
paraphrase), "Go to HELL you Fucking Whore." Overall, I did not give her the gospel when I
transported her because I really did not feel that I was in the best opportunity to share the
gospel, so I would like to ask the group your thoughts about the issue?

Your thoughts,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

[Randy Auxier]

I think people become open to the Gospel after they have had an extended opportunity to see another live by it to the best of his or her ability. If he needs to, let the Baptist minister pass by on the other side of the road and hurry back to his fine building with his sense of ritual purity intact. Then when the Master asks, "which of these was his neighbor?" let us all answer "the one who showed mercy."

 

RA

"mmo...@essex1.com" <mmo...@essex1.com> wrote:

[Lisa S]

Hello group,

I'm a special friend of Mathew's and I've grown quite
fond of him.

Mat is very much like a true Christian is suppose to be and
that is Christ like.

If any of you don't think that what he did in helping that
homeless lady is right regardless of whether, or not, he
said anything about the gospel (or the word of God) then
I think you are wrong.

If this is the case then I think you are being very hypocritical.

And always remember what the word says "Judge that ye not be Judged"
or something close thereof.

My only concern was that he could have hurt himself in lifting
what seemed to be quite a few heavy bags she had.

And Mathew has great compassion not wanting her to
have to put up with the unpleasantness of a homeless shelter
but yet there are advantages and more chances of getting
in contact with social service resources if a person is staying in
a homeless shelter. In this case this woman apparently did not
want to be taken to the homeless shelter. She obviously wasn't
comfortable with being put in that situation.

Mat told me about it on the phone and I was sort of busy
watching one of my stupid fav soaps and my son wanted me off
the phone. And so I didn't praise him for his great kindness
and compassion like I ought to have.

So Mathew if you are reading this I think you are just wonderful!
I think you are just beautiful! both inside and out!

Sincerely,

Lisa

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[mmo...@essex1.com]

Hello,

I agree with you. I find the gospel to record the message regarding the good Samaritan as
suggesting that the good Samaritan did not first enter a ideological discourse with the person in
need. The good Samaritan just did the gospel if he know what he was doing or not, and in a similar
way many times Jesus with his healings just did the gospel instead of expounding upon its
intellectual depth. Overall, the people who thus proclaimed the gospel after the healings of Jesus
thus said things like, "I was blind, but now I can see."

Thank you,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

------- Original Message -------
From : Randy Auxier[mailto:person...@yahoo.com]
Sent : 12/12/2006 5:34:46 PM
To : Jesus-th...@googlegroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Re: Crippled Pregnant Homeless Foodless Woman: By Carbondale Manpower

I think people become open to the Gospel after they have had an extended opportunity to see
another live by it to the best of his or her ability. If he needs to, let the Baptist minister pass
by on the other side of the road and hurry back to his fine building with his sense of ritual
purity intact. Then when the Master asks, "which of these was his neighbor?" let us all answer "the
one who showed mercy."

RA

[mmo...@essex1.com]

Hello,

By the way every won - Lisa is my new girlfriend. I was furthermore very fortunate that Lisa was
more than willing to attend the SIUC formal ball with me when every other person that I asked
declined almost violently.

Thank you,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

------- Original Message -------
From : Lisa S[mailto:fineho...@hotmail.com]
Sent : 12/12/2006 6:35:01 PM
To : Jesus-th...@googlegroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Crippled Pregnant Homeless Foodless Woman: By Carbondale Manpower

Hello group,

Sincerely,

Lisa

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[Lisa S]

to Mathew and this group

well the little selfish devil in me would be mad about 2 things

there are 2 things in the below email that makes me kind of mad and had
me concerned

please group tell Mat to never risk his health for anybody

for in his email he says "and I transported her sleeping supplies (that had

almost been to heavy for
>me to carry) that she apparently had car

I don't care how badly she needed the help; I don't think Mat ought to have
lifted
heavy things for her. I just don't. under any circumstances I don't think
he should have had
to risk his health or injury to himself

hey if you injure you spinal cord that can be permanent damage that
can't be fixed

I don't suppose this woman contemplated that or thought of Mat at all.

She of all people ought to know what it would be like to be handicapped -
crippled.

it wouldn't be a picnic in the park - a party at the beach, lol

so that part still makes me sort o angry - sorry Mat, I care for you so
that it does

and that this stupid Baptist minister would not think of the possibility Mat
could
have been injured at the thoughtlessness, ignorance of this homeless woman

and instead is stupid enough to only be concerned that Mathew didn't
bring up to her the gospel of Jesus Christ

well Mr Baptist minister would I like to tell you a thing or to Mr hypocrite

I think the greater concern should have been that Mat could have been
injured.

Sure it's always good to help people but you don't have to ever put yourself
up for risk. You can do it without that if at all possible.

I happen to be a very kind, thoughtful, and compassionate person myself.
I'd like to think I got allot more of Jesus in me then the devil. lol

unless it's a dire emergency and you absolutely have to

do all of you catch my drift?

you to darling Mathew?

Sincerely,

Lisa

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>To: Jesus-th...@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Crippled Pregnant Homeless Foodless Woman: By Carbondale Manpower
>Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:32:48 -0600
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[Adam Colbert]

that just really saddens me....not the gracious deed you did, but the
reply of the minister. you should've asked him to open the Gospel to
the book of Matthew chapter 25

41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are
cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and
you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite
me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in
prison and you did not look after me.'

44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty
or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help
you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for
one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

and Mathew 10:42 "And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one
of these little ones because he is my disciple, I tell you the truth,
he will certainly not lose his reward."

and Mark 9:41 "I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you a cup of
water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose
his reward."

for future notice, Mathew, feel free to hand out my phone number or
come and get me, should you ever deem it necessary.

[Lisa S]

hey ya'll (group members!)

it's just me, Lisa, a Hankee gal

pretending to be a country gal, lol

well I'm a little bit country to I dare say - sort of combo!

I didn't know whether to introduce myself as Mat's girl yet but
I noticed he did so now I know it's pefectly ok! Well hooray! on that one

Yeah gorgeous Mat

to bad for those other gals who turned you down on going to that
party

I was the smart one who took the closer look at you

and discovered you for the beautiful, handsome

and brilliant guy you amazingly truly are!

I'm so glad!

I always had the same problem with guys never really
taking a closer look at me either.

one of my songs to you Mathew would be one from the great singer/song writer

Tony Bennett "For Once In My Life" - He sang it on Oprah just the other day

Hey group another wonderful love song by the group Il Divo I
just played for Mat; I think it kind of sounds like a song someone
would sing to their love about a place like Heaven. That song
is called "Somewhere".

anyways I'm so happy Mathew's come into my life

someone once said love is a many spendored thing

absolutely right on!

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[David Beagley]

Mathew,
It sounds like you did the right thing. As St. Francis of Assisi said,
"Preach the Gospel at all times. Use words when necessary." Christians
do acts of kindness because that's what Christians do.
At the same time, there is some validity to the concerns that Karl
Barth had when he wrote that the problem with the preaching the Gospel
while sharing bread is that the hungry will focus on the bread and
ignore the Gospel. That and I always worry about being taken advantage
of by people who ask for money, especially people who stopped by the
church in Carbondale when I was there last year.
And of course there's the issue of the parable of the Good Samaritan
traditionally being interpreted allegorically where Jesus is the good
Samaritan who cares for us poor sinners who have been left for dead at
the side of the road of life, but that's an issue for another thread.
;)

--
David Beagley <><

[Jim T]

I rebuke you publicly in the name of Jesus for your unwarrented malignment and demonic twisting of the truth conserning me. You will apologise and repent on this public forum or lose my number and take me off the mailing list. You are a self serving religious pharisee seeking someone to talk about to make yourself feel more  than you are. I was upset, that instead of doing your job as the "good Samaritan" you gave out the private number of an individual who you knew (without his permission) and when you were corrected, you laughed it off like every other correction I have offered you. How you feel is irrelivant. You paid her off and dumped her on someone else. If you're going to wear the catholic preist costume and make religious noise, then malign and twist to bring more attention to yourself on a public forum, It was not a work of God you preform. troublemaking postulating hippocrisy is the label of this attack on a man of God cause you didnt like being chewed out. probably the reason for all the pomp symbols and labels instead of plain gospel. I have yet to hear anything from you not self motivated or designed to put a magnifying glass on your religious works. you really want to start demolishing my character in public? You picked the wrong preacher, Matt.

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[Jim T]

you have judged me based on a lie. You add to Mat's self righteous attempt to malign without knowledge of the facts.

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[Jim T]

I know what was said and will own my words. I was right in what I said to Mat, and he has misrepresented me to make himself appear more religious.  You also dont know who you are talking about or what the situation is.  I dont care how long youve known him, he has propogated a LIE and wishes to attack ME. He is no friend of mine or of the work of God to do these things.  I have been falsely accused publicly and this is a public rebuke

Lisa S <fineho...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[Jim T]

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure the whole section of the internet and the SIUC world knows the details of Mat's half done good work...he has his reward of men.

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[Jim T]

the man helped by the Samaritan was beaten and left for dead. hardly ABLE to pay attention in half conscious state.  I will not defend myself to this group for a rebuke and acorrection I gave to Mat in private. I do not answer to any of you. I wager than I'm a spiritual and chronological elder to all of you. If you want to swallow religious drivel and self serving manipulations from a catholic wanna be, be my guest. I will leave this group because I know what the word of God says about gossip. Mat is a gossip. I will distance myself and encourage others to do the same, until a public apology is made by MAT

"mmo...@essex1.com" <mmo...@essex1.com> wrote:

Hello,

I agree with you. I find the gospel to record the message regarding the good Samaritan as
suggesting that the good Samaritan did not first enter a ideological discourse with the person in
need. The good Samaritan just did the gospel if he know what he was doing or not, and in a similar
way many times Jesus with his healings just did the gospel instead of expounding upon its
intellectual depth. Overall, the people who thus proclaimed the gospel after the healings of Jesus
thus said things like, "I was blind, but now I can see."

Thank you,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

------- Original Message -------
From : Randy Auxier[mailto:person...@yahoo.com]
Sent : 12/12/2006 5:34:46 PM
To : Jesus-th...@googlegroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Re: Crippled Pregnant Homeless Foodless Woman: By Carbondale Manpower

I think people become open to the Gospel after they have had an extended opportunity to see
another live by it to the best of his or her ability. If he needs to, let the Baptist minister pass
by on the other side of the road and hurry back to his fine building with his sense of ritual
purity intact. Then when the Master asks, "which of these was his neighbor?" let us all answer "the
one who showed mercy."

RA

"mmo...@essex1.com" wrote:

Hello,

A crippled pregnant homeless woman who was confined to crutches found me yesterday, and the woman
asked me if I would give her a ride to the back of the Manpower building in Carbondale, Illinois.
I gave the woman a ride, and I transported her sleeping supplies (that had almost been to heavy for
me to carry) that she apparently had carried cross town with her crutches. The woman asked me for
some food, so I brought her some food as she relaxed next to the Manpower building at the same
location that I believe that she intended to stay the night. Overall, I believe the woman's name
is Chris, so please pray for her, and if any of you ever find her, then feel free to offer her some
help (including gospel help).

I told a Baptist minister about what I did and about how I gave her his telephone number for future
help, and he appeared to be very upset about what I did. He claimed that by not giving her the
gospel but instead by giving her food instead that I was saying to her something like (and I
paraphrase), "Go to HELL you Fucking Whore." Overall, I did not give her the gospel when I
transported her because I really did not feel that I was in the best opportunity to share the
gospel, so I would like to ask the group your thoughts about the issue?

Your thoughts,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

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[Jim T]

be careful which anointed man of God you call stupid, child.  dont let hormones judge words of truth and falsehood. If Mat wants to continue this malignment and draw you into the decepion, be careful you dont end up with the same judgement.

Lisa S <fineho...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[Jim T]

You too Adam?  Judging me based on Mat's lie.  He has lied to you conserning this. I corrected him and I was upset that he gave a stranger my number without asking. he has a number. he has your number.  as a "minister" he has just as many connections in this community as I do...maybe more.  He gave her food, dumped her on me and shouted his good works from the internet housetops... what's the bible say about that? I never said "instead of giving her food.."  he added this. I asked him why he sends people to me for the gospel instead of doing HIS duty.  You know me, Adam. How true does the accusation about me sound now?

Adam Colbert <AdamC...@hotmail.com> wrote:

     Jim (Buddy) T.

  My Baby's  Daddy

      That's Me

[Dwight Welch]

My thoughts: Matt did preach the Gospel in this occasion.

Dwight

[Jim T]

consistency and balance. there ar @ needs. not 1

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[Jim T]

were you there?  were you on the phone with Mat and Me?  Are you just being religious and philosophical? He TOLD me he did not. your thoughts on this are incorrect. I rebuked Mat and he countered by maligning me on the internet and (if I know Mat) everyone who would listen. He is a gossip and too full of religious pomp. I have done what is required of me by God. Reprove rebuke and exort. All in due time.

Dwight Welch <serv...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Dwight Welch]

I'm not responding to your personal interactions with Matt.  I am saying that aiding someone is preaching the Gospel.

[Jim T]

I apologise for my misunderstanding. Thank you for taking the time to explain

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[Randy Auxier]

Hi Jim. I haven't judged you, since I didn't know who you were and still don't know who you are. I said "if he needs to." That's a conditional. If this isn't you or isn't what happened, then I'm not talking about you, and I wasn't judging anyone.

 

When Jesus asked the lawyer which was the neighbor, the lawyer did not say "the Samaritan," he said "the one who showed him mercy." He was thanking Jesus for not making him look like a fool in public. In this case, the one who had showed mercy was Jesus, and the lawyer knew it. When the lawyer, to justify himself, had asked one question too many, Jesus didn't rebuke him as he perhaps deserved. Jesus' response, when the lawyer had understood, was "go and do likewise."

 

There are many ways to have mercy on someone. Some of us need to pass by on the other side in order to be merciful, some need to pass over another person's mistakes, some need to refrain from rebuking others in public. The full answer to Jesus' question was that each and every character in the story was a neighbor to the others, but the more important issue was not the moral to the story, it was what Jesus had done in telling it, which was to show mercy in the face of a very human weakness on the part of the lawyer. I wish we could all go and do likewise, but it is a strain.

 

RA 

Jim T <jimb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Jim T]

Randy, have you torn Pauls writings out of your bible?  We are instructed to rebuke.  Reprove  and rebuke with all lonsuffering and DOCTRINE.  I know Mat. I have done what was needed. Jesus rebuked the pharisees publicly and called them hypocrites, whited walls, seplecres full of dead men's bones.  John the baptist refered to them as generation of vipers.  Not just myself, but all baptist ministers were attacked by Mat's propensity to label people and gossip to draw attention to himself. Is this not worthy of rebuke? Is this not harmful to the body of Christ?  A public endictment does not warrent a public rebuke? Where is righteous judgement. I rebuked Mat and pointed to sin. I demanded an apology. I encourage Mat to repent. All I have recieved is unposted  accusation without knowledge from his new girl friend and accusations (left handed ones) about unchristlike words. Are we reading the same bible?  I think religion is poisoning the minds of the people in this group to encourage me to swallow an unchristlike accusation without rebuking poor Mat for the good work which he so detailed to everyone who would listen. If none of you have the spiritual backbone to agree with the word of God on this matter, stop attacking me (the religious sounding attempt to shut me up by insisting that christlike is equal to ignoring sin) for having the backbone.  This behavior has been going on for some time. I'm no longer certain of the truth of his accusations toward Gentry, which he harped on for weeks after he started this group.  If the people on this group cared anything about Mat, they would have addressed this hypocicy with me, for his benefit.  Why else sent this "unjudgemental" message. since when is ignoring sin an act of mercy?  No me explicitly (until now) there was no judgement. Only because Mat had not named me. I saw the injustice and maliciousness in his statement and made sure everyone knew who he was talking about. Some on this group KNOW me...and Mat.  He maligned an entire denomination with the twisting of my words and intent. This GOSSIP and TWISTING OF THE TRUTH was for no reason other than to make himself look like the poor relious martyr. This is pride, gossip, self righteousness, and maliscious to every baptist in the region of this group's influence.  I have yet to hear from him after the rebuke.  The Godly rebuke.  There is no bible to back the weeney doctrine of private rebuke for public sin.  Mat is not only taken in this fault, he has encouraged his new girlfriend to malign judge and gossip with him. Lisa doesnt even know  who she's talking about. she just doesnt like me rebuking her boyfriend.  Is this the kind of response Im going to get...everyone trying to "HELP" poor Jim the fanatic?  Speak the truth .be prepared in season and out od=f season REPROVE REBUKE AND CORRECT... If anyone else wants to be a help, pray that Mat repent. I have done what is expected of God. My hands are clean.  If  Mat and his girl continue with this malicious gossip, I (in accordance with the word of God) will turn them over to a messenger of Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that they learn not to gossip and blastpheme elders and shepherds appointed by God.  As for your post...it is base on the misconception that I told Mat to give the gospel instead of food. I said no such thing.  I rebuked him for not taking care of his own flock. He gave her MY number to take the responsibility off himself and leave the glory of the "good work" for him to publicly bask in.  I told him to do his job, and I became angry when he laughed it off, as he has every time I correct him. Filled with education always seeking but never coming to the knowledge of the truth.  How can anyone read his posts over the last year and not see the gossip and self serving martyrdom? How can anyone see this self destructive practice and not rebuke and correct? Is the Jesus-the-Christ google group full of blind mutes? or is it a question of wisdom and judgement? Is there no one "wise" enough to judge this, or is it a question of backbone?  When it comes to philosphy and what ifs of metaphysical dung, this is the place to escape the world. BUT, when it comes to the scripural operation of the new testament church and who Jesus really is, Im afraid I can find few here who are willing to take the heat to operate scripturally. Its too easy to contextually  rape the scripture to try to keep the peace. Peace at the cost of truth or righteousness is not the way of Christ. Some folks need a bigger bible.

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[mmo...@essex1.com]

Hello,

I can see a great value in giving the gospel to people. In fact I believe that without the gospel
people are doomed to hell. I however believe that people are often saved first when the body of
Christ chooses to nourish them in order that they may be incorporated into the body over time.
Overall, I am sorry if I have offended you.

I wanted to tell as many people as possible about the woman because I want to be confident that
other people may know enough to offer help to the woman. For Calvinism the only people that can
receive the gospel are those who are called. In such a case promoting the gospel is not a act of
randomness but instead is an act of intelligent design, and in such a case some purpose is behind
acts, deeds, and speech.

The point that I am making is that although I agree that sharing the gospel should occur always; I
also believe that we are to be careful to use the proper medium and manner in sharing the gospel.
Although I had much dispute with Bishop Gentry, he said something very important when he said, "the
gospel is its own offence, you don't need to add to it." Overall, the point thus is that just by
acts of God's grace in doing the gospel that is enough offence to Satan.

Overall, Jim I hope that you do not stop sharing the gospel on Jesus on the Web and alienate
yourself from the Christian community because you have something against anything that I have
done. I do however apologize if I have offended or embarrassed you, and I do ask for your
forgiveness if I have to strongly paraphrased your position (at any given time). Overall, we
should not be fighting each other, but instead we should be rejoicing because of the birth, death,
and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ paying for our sins and rendering justice on the enemy
that would try to put an end to his work.

In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost God Bless,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

------- Original Message -------
From : Jim T[mailto:jimb...@yahoo.com]
Sent : 12/13/2006 12:34:43 PM
To : Jesus-th...@googlegroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Re: Crippled Pregnant Homeless Foodless Woman: By Carbondale Manpower

I rebuke you publicly in the name of Jesus for your unwarrented malignment and demonic twisting of
the truth conserning me. You will apologise and repent on this public forum or lose my number and
take me off the mailing list. You are a self serving religious pharisee seeking someone to talk
about to make yourself feel more than you are. I was upset, that instead of doing your job as
the "good Samaritan" you gave out the private number of an individual who you knew (without his
permission) and when you were corrected, you laughed it off like every other correction I have
offered you. How you feel is irrelivant. You paid her off and dumped her on someone else. If you're
going to wear the catholic preist costume and make religious noise, then malign and twist to bring
more attention to yourself on a public forum, It was not a work of God you preform. troublemaking
postulating hippocrisy is the label of this attack on a man of God cause you didnt like being
chewed out.
probably the reason for all the pomp symbols and labels instead of plain gospel. I have yet to
hear anything from you not self motivated or designed to put a magnifying glass on your religious
works. you really want to start demolishing my character in public? You picked the wrong preacher,
Matt.

"mmo...@essex1.com" <mmo...@essex1.com> wrote:
Hello,

A crippled pregnant homeless woman who was confined to crutches found me yesterday, and the woman
asked me if I would give her a ride to the back of the Manpower building in Carbondale, Illinois.
I gave the woman a ride, and I transported her sleeping supplies (that had almost been to heavy for
me to carry) that she apparently had carried cross town with her crutches. The woman asked me for
some food, so I brought her some food as she relaxed next to the Manpower building at the same
location that I believe that she intended to stay the night. Overall, I believe the woman's name
is Chris, so please pray for her, and if any of you ever find her, then feel free to offer her some
help (including gospel help).

I told a Baptist minister about what I did and about how I gave her his telephone number for future
help, and he appeared to be very upset about what I did. He claimed that by not giving her the
gospel but instead by giving her food instead that I was saying to her something like (and I
paraphrase), "Go to HELL you Fucking Whore." Overall, I did not give her the gospel when I
transported her because I really did not feel that I was in the best opportunity to share the
gospel, so I would like to ask the group your thoughts about the issue?

Your thoughts,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

Jim (Buddy) T.
My Baby's Daddy
That's Me

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[mmo...@essex1.com]

Hello,

I want to clarify about the woman. It is not glory to talk about how I in some limited way tried
to care for a person in need; rather it is a big public disgrace to the entire community that
someone would be in such need as to have the problems that she had. The point is that the entire
community should be in disgrace that so many people are so poor and homeless, and what is more is
that people are poor and homeless for a reason not just out of randomness.

In the scripture we are told that in the early church no poor had been among the believes under the
command of Peter, but today in this community the poor are almost everywhere. Does that say
anything good about how we as Christians are operating; moreover, we should all repent of this
wickedness. I should not be praised for doing even less than what God would require, and I should
not be praised for doing even less than what the early church would do.

Not one of us can ever earn the salvation of God, so we should not be so intent with proving
ourselves correct or right or even making ourselves righteous. We should instead be concerned with
both caring for God more and causing that we make every effort that God would have us make to help
others. Overall, salvation is only possible with God, so we need to be from God and do his will in
order that God's salvation may work though us in order that non of his will parish.

Thank you,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

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From : Jim T[mailto:jimb...@yahoo.com]

Sent : 12/14/2006 10:10:02 AM

To : Jesus-th...@googlegroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Re: Crippled Pregnant Homeless Foodless Woman: By Carbondale Manpower

Randy, have you torn Pauls writings out of your bible? We are instructed to rebuke. Reprove and

region of this group's influence. I have yet to hear from him after the rebuke. The Godly

"mmo...@essex1.com" <mmo...@essex1.com> wrote:

Hello,

A crippled pregnant homeless woman who was confined to crutches found me yesterday, and the woman
asked me if I would give her a ride to the back of the Manpower building in Carbondale, Illinois.
I gave the woman a ride, and I transported her sleeping supplies (that had almost been to heavy for
me to carry) that she apparently had carried cross town with her crutches. The woman asked me for
some food, so I brought her some food as she relaxed next to the Manpower building at the same
location that I believe that she intended to stay the night. Overall, I believe the woman's name
is Chris, so please pray for her, and if any of you ever find her, then feel free to offer her some
help (including gospel help).

I told a Baptist minister about what I did and about how I gave her his telephone number for future
help, and he appeared to be very upset about what I did. He claimed that by not giving her the
gospel but instead by giving her food instead that I was saying to her something like (and I
paraphrase), "Go to HELL you Fucking Whore." Overall, I did not give her the gospel when I
transported her because I really did not feel that I was in the best opportunity to share the
gospel, so I would like to ask the group your thoughts about the issue?

Your thoughts,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

Jim (Buddy) T.
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[Lisa S]

of course by all means people should give rides to persons who need a ride

and even if it's necessary they are going out of their way

unless for some important reason they just can't

for example time constraints or they can't afford gasoline

excuse my not punctuating - it saves time

Like I for one if time permitted and I could afford and someone was in need
I'd take them to the next town if they really needed the ride.

look what Jesus says in the gospels about these things if you read about ask
and ye shall receive
something like if he ask you to walk 1 mile, walk with him 2 miles Jesus
says of something like that

so it's applies to our lives as Christians in many respects with helping
people

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>Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:32:48 -0600
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[Lisa S]

to Mat and all of the group

well Mat doll

you're so unbelievable to kind to this hypocrite

I got the feeling the Lord would agree with me.

and so you are bowing down to him and giving him his
not much deserved, or shall I say undeserved apology

oh well you're such the darling that

that is to be expected of you my sweet, dear Mathew

yet he the radical, fanatical so called Christian Mr Jim T
does not deserve your open apology

I'll be damned if I apologize to him

yet I think I maybe already did somewhat in one of my emails

I know already the Lord God Jesus Christ in all probability would not
even agree with him.

for he cared nothing at all for that poor homeless woman

he sure did not want to help her one little bit

and did not our Lord Jesus Christ say in the gospels
something like

or in so many words

whatever you would do unto the least of these

you do also unto me

the least of these is perfect example of this
desolate homeless woman who the poor handicapped woman
only had one leg and has to make her way around with crutches

So Mr Jim T if you wouldn't help this poor woman in essence you are
saying you wouldn't help Jesus.

How is it that you think you'd be acceptable for his Kingdom of
Heaven then Mr Brilliant Mr T? Mr Know-it-all?

in regard to the homeless woman again

I wonder who gets her disability check for her (?)

Some needy people just don't know all the resources out their available
to them I guess. Or they haven't gotten themselves signed up.
And some great humans resources you must be put on waiting list for.

many of these disabled people unfortunately blow their monies on
drugs and alcohol leaving themselves homeless or with no money
to live on - it's a shame

I know this from fact. I've met some of these people before.

I'm not saying she is one of those but I have to wonder.

I would assume she would get a check in her condition. Would she not group?

I think I will perhaps call the womens ctr and perhaps they could go
check on that poor woman. I didn't mean for you to assume I
have a car. It's not so convenient for me to personally go to see
how she is. I don't know what I could do anyways for her.

Mat if you read this you've done your part; please don't go back
to check on the woman. I'm terrible. forgive me, lol
You need your time to work on your finals.

hopefully she's at the good samaritan house by now

According the Lord we are suppose to be willing to bring homeless people
home with us
but just how many of us are willing to do such a gracious thing?
And I like my privacy and my timid son would not even like that.
My father was the kind of person to bring homeless people home.
And my mom was one of the kindest people ever but she didn't even
like it one bit the time he brought a homeless man home.
My father a world war II hero vet had a heart of gold.

The best thing she could have done would have been to have
gone to the homeless shelter although it's not the most
comfortable place or situation.

let you all go, have a blessed day

Sincerely,

Lisa

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[Lisa S]

hey again group

how do you feel about me being part of this group?

should I stay or should I go?

I wholeheartedly agree with what Mathew had to say.

As for me I never take my salvation for granted.

I know I'm very far from measuring up to God's standards of what
a real, true Christian is.

I fear I'll never really measure up.

I don't do anything all that wrong in my daily life but
I don't do anything all that right either.

don't go out doing any good works for people

but when I'm out and about I do try to treat people right
and with friendliness and kindness

I try to be sociable even to people I might not really want to be sociable
to.

I try my best to be unbiased and not practice favoritism.

I sort of have low or zero tolerance for what I call the "snobs"
and the "hypocrites" of the world - especially the uppidies
since I've had so many, many bad experiences in my life with them.

we all have bad selves and good selves - I read this in a self help book
once

the trick is - is to turn rid ourselves of our bad selves (our inner demons)
more and more
and make our good selves (our inner Jesus, our inner light) grow more and
more

that moves us more toward God's world, his kingdom of heaven

well that's my theory or how I kind of see it - my conjecturing

I'm not saying I'm totally right. I don't claim to be a Ms. know-it-all
like some people do. lol

that just pure ignorance to claim to be mr or ms. know-it-all

only God knows-it-all

I have to do lots of praying about my bad attitudes toward my fellow man

despite my bad attitudes I do love my fellow human beings

I would not wish a hell on any of them except maybe the very wicked
wicked that cause physical harm and hurt to people
and even them I would hope it were not for eternity that
it would be limited for them to be rehabilitated

if you really believe our Lord God is a loving and benevolent God
you simply can't completely swallow the entire concept of
an eternal Lake of fire hell

don't you ever watch some of the movies
have you no conception of what that would be like even for a couple seconds

if you love your fellow man as God commands
how could you wish that upon him? how could you?

I'm praying about the hell thing all the time I so contest it.
I think it absurd. I think it ridiculous even.
I think perhaps I like the Catholic concept of the pergatory. how do you
spell that?

Sincerely,

Lisa

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[Adam Colbert]

i first of all apologize for possibly taking Matthew 25 out of context.
i say "possibly" because in verse 20 it states "The King will reply, 'I
tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these
brothers of mine, you did for me.'" and therefore it is clearly the
brothers of Christ. in verse 45 it states "He will reply, 'I tell you

the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you

did not do for me.'" and it is "one of the least of these" rather than
"one of the least of these brothers of mine" that is clearly being
mentioned. now, it could be assumed that in the latter case Christ is
talking about his brethren as well, but this would be reading
possibilities into the Scripture rather than letting Scripture explain
itself. i believe Jesus would have repeated himself exactly should he
have meant "the least of these" to be his brethren in both cases. one
might also try and say "well, the 'goats' on the King's left overheard
what was said to the 'sheep' on the King's right, and therefore the
'goats' would have understood the King to mean 'one of the least of
these' as his brethren." but i would think (and i'm reading "into" the
Bible on this one) that the heavenly throne of God is so large (east
separated from west, right from left, good from evil) to think one side
is able to hear what is spoken on the other side is absurd. but that's
just my interpretation on that Scripture, i ask not that you agree, but
just to see how i view it.

secondly, it was wrong for him to give the woman your number without
permission. he should have given her his own. mat doesn't have a cell
phone so in this case it would be impossible for him to call one of us
to gain the permission, but i cannot say whether or not it was God's
will that he should provide another source of possible help, should she
desire, while Mat was still available. what i mean is, Mat could've
went home and called people, asking their permission, and then proceed
to go back to the woman with phone numbers. that, in my opinion, would
have been the best option.

a side note: one time a friend told me that he had drank entirely too
much, was hunched over the toilet puking, when another friend (who was
a coworker and was gay) brought him a glass of water. and then that
friend proceeded to "talk about things that really should have been
discussed before". it was kind of like, oh, you're puking? here's a
glass of water......but now that i've done my good deed, and you're not
able to go anywhere, but you can't in all good conscience tell me to
leave, allow me to talk about some things....... how, my puking
friend knew that that wasn't entirely the intent, but that's how it
kind of turned out. now, in Mat's situation, he possibly should have
given the Gospel before the ride/food. but who are we to say that God's
will was not performed as the situation currently played out?

as i re-read the situation Mat describes, i can only read it with these
premises:
1) he came into contact with someone that needed help
2) he gave her physical help, but not the Gospel
3) he went to a fellow member of the body of Christ, informing him of
the situation and that she had his number.
4a) the apparent reaction was that what was given was a "hand-out
instead of a hand-up"
4b) this is the same as saying "here's something for your body, but not
for your soul"
5) now Mat's perplexed as to what others may have done in this
situation.

now, i admit i previously mis-read it to state that the "un-named
Baptist minister" actually said the lady was a whore and should go to
hell. my mistake. i'm in the wrong.

but, Gospel or not, i cannot see otherwise but that the material gift
of food and a ride was not spiritualized in purpose.

i see how you could interpret Mat's giving of your phone number as "he
dumped her on you" and indeed he gave it without permission, but i hate
to think that you may in actuality perceive this as having somebody
"dumped on you" rather than "perhaps God has put this woman here for a
reason".

yes, the Bible says that one should not tell of his good works and even
that one should pray within one's closet. Mat has shouted a good work
from the internet roof-tops, it cannot be denied, but i see his
question is being posed to all possible people as to what they thought
he should have done. my answer would be that he should have given the
Gospel, but also that what he did for the woman was in no way contrary
to God's will. i can only pray that the woman asks herself "why did
this man be so kind?" and at a later point in time, God will answer.
but it would surprise me to think that, at the time, Mat actually
wasn't dressed in his minister uniform and that the woman could plainly
see that he was living with Christ within him.

that's all i have to say on the matter for now.

> Jim (Buddy) T.
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> You too Adam?&nbsp; Judging me based on Mat's lie.&nbsp; He has lied to you conserning this. I corrected him and I was upset that he gave a stranger my number without asking. he has a number. he has your number.&nbsp; as a "minister" he has just as many connections in this community as I do...maybe more.&nbsp; He gave her food, dumped her on me and shouted his good works from the internet housetops... what's the bible say about that? I never said "instead of giving her food.."&nbsp; he added this. I asked him why he sends people to me for the gospel instead of doing HIS duty.&nbsp; You know me, Adam. How true does the accusation about me sound now?<BR><BR><B><I>Adam Colbert &lt;AdamC...@hotmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>that just really saddens me....not the gracious deed you did, but the<BR>reply of the minister. you should've asked him to open the Gospel to<BR>the
> book of Matthew chapter 25<BR><BR>41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are<BR>cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.<BR>42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and<BR>you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite<BR>me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in<BR>prison and you did not look after me.'<BR><BR>44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty<BR>or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help<BR>you?'<BR><BR>45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for<BR>one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'<BR><BR>and Mathew 10:42 "And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one<BR>of these little ones because he is my disciple, I tell you the truth,<BR>he will certainly not lose his reward."<BR><BR>and Mark 9:41 "I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you
> a cup of<BR>water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose<BR>his reward."<BR><BR><BR>for future notice, Mathew, feel free to hand out my phone number or<BR>come and get me, should you ever deem it necessary.<BR><BR><BR>mmo...@essex1.com wrote:<BR>&gt; Hello,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; A crippled pregnant homeless woman who was confined to crutches found me yesterday, and the woman<BR>&gt; asked me if I would give her a ride to the back of the Manpower building in Carbondale, Illinois.<BR>&gt; I gave the woman a ride, and I transported her sleeping supplies (that had almost been to heavy for<BR>&gt; me to carry) that she apparently had carried cross town with her crutches. The woman asked me for<BR>&gt; some food, so I brought her some food as she relaxed next to the Manpower building at the same<BR>&gt; location that I believe that she intended to stay the night. Overall, I believe the woman's name<BR>&gt; is Chris, so please pray for her, and if any of you
> ever find her, then feel free to offer her some<BR>&gt; help (including gospel help).<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I told a Baptist minister about what I did and about how I gave her his telephone number for future<BR>&gt; help, and he appeared to be very upset about what I did. He claimed that by not giving her the<BR>&gt; gospel but instead by giving her food instead that I was saying to her something like (and I<BR>&gt; paraphrase), "Go to HELL you Fucking Whore." Overall, I did not give her the gospel when I<BR>&gt; transported her because I really did not feel that I was in the best opportunity to share the<BR>&gt; gospel, so I would like to ask the group your thoughts about the issue?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Your thoughts,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Mathew Enoch Mount<BR>&gt; mmo...@essex1.com<BR><BR><BR><DIV>
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[Jim T]

rebuke a wise man and he will love you for it. rebuke a fool and get a blot. examine your own hypocricy Lisa. It appears there is a log sticking out of your eye

Lisa S <fineho...@hotmail.com> wrote:

     Jim (Buddy) T.

  My Baby's  Daddy

      That's Me

[Jim T]

My rebuke of Mathew was about shirking responsibility. He did something he knew I would not approve of. he laughed through informing me of his action. I saw nothing funny and rebuked him. He made an issue and  paraphrased a filthy cursing account of something I never said or intimated. Its not the offence of me he is to apologise and repent for. It is his sin and manipulation. His false witness. His malicious accusation of baptists in general by the labeling of a baptist minister and then following it with this fasety. His apology of offending me is irrelevant. Ive been falsely accused by smarter and more skillful manipulation than he is capable of...I have ex wives.  Just so you know...the woman's name is mary, she is missing one foot and has a place to go and to get food. she keeps getting thrown out because she shows up drunk. That is disallowed in the good samaritan house behind the rec center.  This should have been Mat's follow up.  The woman has been provided for, then she disobeys the rules and separates herself from those who help her.  Sounds familliar in a spiritually paralell way...doesn't it?

Adam Colbert <AdamC...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You too Adam?  Judging me based on Mat's lie.  He has lied to you conserning this. I corrected him and I was upset that he gave a stranger my number without asking. he has a number. he has your number.  as a "minister" he has just as many connections in this community as I do...maybe more.  He gave her food, dumped her on me and shouted his good works from the internet housetops... what's the bible say about that? I never said "instead of giving her food.."  he added this. I asked him why he sends people to me for the gospel instead of doing HIS duty.  You know me, Adam. How true does the accusation about me sound now?

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[mmo...@essex1.com]

Hello,

I first want to say that my paraphrase of the Baptist minister was more of a paraphrase of what I
understood his meaning to be rather than his language usage. Secondly, I would like to note that
we have more than one Baptist minister on our news group to my knowledge, and I have been in
contact with many more Baptist ministers. Third of all I want to say that Jim T is not the only
person that I called on the night of the incident, and Jim T is not the only name and telephone
number that I gave to the homeless woman.

I thus take any over zealous response regarding my supposed accusing and public humiliation of such
an individual as being a remission of guilt by the accuser. What is further more important is to
mention that the same Baptist minister used much humor when talking about the homeless woman to me
by saying things such as, (maybe you can date her). Overall, a time exists for laughing and a time
exists for being serious, and I feel that we should try to be serious about the gospel.

I hope that Jim T a co-owner of Jesus on the Web does not quit the news group of Jesus on the Web
based upon my supposed misunderstanding of how to appropriately paraphrase some Baptist minister
that shall remain nameless. I do not see the crucifixion of Christ as a suicide attempt by God, so
I would not recommend anyone combating a supposed lack of gospel preaching by removing himself from
the vary same gospel promoting form that he himself owns in an attempt to "further the gospel."
Overall, my point is that I believe that Jim T should continue his public ministry, and I feel that
I should apologize for having offended him or having made same elusions to him (as has been
interpreted by one of my colleagues).

Also note that never before in Christian history have we arrived at such a darkness that
professional ministers make themselves to be Gods by using the scripture as both a weapon against
the weak and as a tool to prove not that God is right but instead that they themselves are
completely right (a status reserved only for God). The point is that now instead of submitting to
God with our ignorance; many now believe themselves to be completely correct and without error both
theologically and intellectually as a result of the scripture being memorized. Overall, the point
is that we should not like some ridicule the faith of the early Apostles of the New Testament whom
according to many just do not get the message, but instead we should see ourselves in the same
circumstances with Christ while often needing to be very humble for our obvious lack of
understanding.

God Bless,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

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Subject : RE: Re: Crippled Pregnant Homeless Foodless Woman: By Carbondale Manpower

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[Jim T]

Gal 2:11, II Tim 4:2, Prov 9:8, Heb 13:17, I Tim 1:20..so what is a professional minister? And how does that differ from one elected by God to preach? If they are not the same, one is a fake.

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[Evan Hale]

You did the absolutely right thing, Matt.  Share the Gospel when God shows you the opening, but always do good things.  Servant evangelism is excellent, because it shows that you actually care about the people you're helping.  Spouting off about God at odd, ineffective times is not evangelism, and it is not preaching the Word.  The Great Commission commands us to talk to others about Jesus, but a prerequisite is of course that we love them as real people, not just as objects of religious duty.  People will know if you're just peforming half-assed BS evangelism.  You were completely in the right, Matt, and the Baptist guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

"mmo...@essex1.com" <mmo...@essex1.com> wrote:

Hello,

A crippled pregnant homeless woman who was confined to crutches found me yesterday, and the woman
asked me if I would give her a ride to the back of the Manpower building in Carbondale, Illinois.
I gave the woman a ride, and I transported her sleeping supplies (that had almost been to heavy for
me to carry) that she apparently had carried cross town with her crutches. The woman asked me for
some food, so I brought her some food as she relaxed next to the Manpower building at the same
location that I believe that she intended to stay the night. Overall, I believe the woman's name
is Chris, so please pray for her, and if any of you ever find her, then feel free to offer her some
help (including gospel help).

I told a Baptist minister about what I did and about how I gave her his telephone number for future
help, and he appeared to be very upset about what I did. He claimed that by not giving her the
gospel but instead by giving her food instead that I was saying to her something like (and I
paraphrase), "Go to HELL you Fucking Whore." Overall, I did not give her the gospel when I
transported her because I really did not feel that I was in the best opportunity to share the
gospel, so I would like to ask the group your thoughts about the issue?

Your thoughts,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

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[Evan Hale]

[Evan Hale]

You did the absolutely right thing, Matt.  Share the Gospel when God shows you the opening, but always do good things.  Servant evangelism is excellent, because it shows that you actually care about the people you're helping.  Spouting off about God at odd, ineffective times is not evangelism, and it is not preaching the Word.  The Great Commission commands us to talk to others about Jesus, but a prerequisite is of course that we love them as real people, not just as objects of religious duty.  People will know if you're just peforming half-assed BS evangelism.  You were completely in the right, Matt, and the Baptist guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

"mmo...@essex1.com" <mmo...@essex1.com> wrote:

Hello,

A crippled pregnant homeless woman who was confined to crutches found me yesterday, and the woman
asked me if I would give her a ride to the back of the Manpower building in Carbondale, Illinois.
I gave the woman a ride, and I transported her sleeping supplies (that had almost been to heavy for
me to carry) that she apparently had carried cross town with her crutches. The woman asked me for
some food, so I brought her some food as she relaxed next to the Manpower building at the same
location that I believe that she intended to stay the night. Overall, I believe the woman's name
is Chris, so please pray for her, and if any of you ever find her, then feel free to offer her some
help (including gospel help).

I told a Baptist minister about what I did and about how I gave her his telephone number for future
help, and he appeared to be very upset about what I did. He claimed that by not giving her the
gospel but instead by giving her food instead that I was saying to her something like (and I
paraphrase), "Go to HELL you Fucking Whore." Overall, I did not give her the gospel when I
transported her because I really did not feel that I was in the best opportunity to share the
gospel, so I would like to ask the group your thoughts about the issue?

Your thoughts,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

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[Evan Hale]

Hey, I know I'm real behind and everything, but congrats, Matt!  Rock it out!

"mmo...@essex1.com" <mmo...@essex1.com> wrote:

Hello,

By the way every won - Lisa is my new girlfriend. I was furthermore very fortunate that Lisa was
more than willing to attend the SIUC formal ball with me when every other person that I asked
declined almost violently.

Thank you,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

------- Original Message -------

From : Lisa S[mailto:fineho...@hotmail.com]
Sent : 12/12/2006 6:35:01 PM
To : Jesus-th...@googlegroups.com
Cc :
Subject : RE: Crippled Pregnant Homeless Foodless Woman: By Carbondale Manpower

Sincerely,


Lisa

>From: "mmo...@essex1.com"
>Reply-To: Jesus-th...@googlegroups.com
>To: Jesus-th...@googlegroups.com

>Subject: Crippled Pregnant Homeless Foodless Woman: By Carbondale Manpower
>Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:32:48 -0600
>
>

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bible for that unsubstantiated judgement is in the book of...what? Hezakiah or ... II James?

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[mmo...@essex1.com]

Hello,

I am glad that some people are still for the gospel of God. However I know a baptist minister
who was very upset about what I did. He even took measures to publicly denounce me, and now I
can only hope that he will still be friends with me.

Thank you for your support,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

------- Original Message -------
From : Evan Hale[mailto:logo...@yahoo.com]
Sent : 2/4/2007 4:44:33 PM

"mmo...@essex1.com" <mmo...@essex1.com> wrote:
Hello,

Thank you,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

Hello group,

Sincerely,

Lisa

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[Evan Hale]

Whoops!  If this account is true, then I am sorry and heartily apologize if anything I wrote offended you, Jim. 

Jim T <jimb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I rebuke you publicly in the name of Jesus for your unwarrented malignment and demonic twisting of the truth conserning me. You will apologise and repent on this public forum or lose my number and take me off the mailing list. You are a self serving religious pharisee seeking someone to talk about to make yourself feel more  than you are. I was upset, that instead of doing your job as the "good Samaritan" you gave out the private number of an individual who you knew (without his permission) and when you were corrected, you laughed it off like every other correction I have offered you. How you feel is irrelivant. You paid her off and dumped her on someone else. If you're going to wear the catholic preist costume and make religious noise, then malign and twist to bring more attention to yourself on a public forum, It was not a work of God you preform. troublemaking postulating hippocrisy is the label of this attack on a man of God cause you didnt like being chewed out. probably the reason for all the pomp symbols and labels instead of plain gospel. I have yet to hear anything from you not self motivated or designed to put a magnifying glass on your religious works. you really want to start demolishing my character in public? You picked the wrong preacher, Matt.

"mmo...@essex1.com" <mmo...@essex1.com> wrote:

Hello,

A crippled pregnant homeless woman who was confined to crutches found me yesterday, and the woman
asked me if I would give her a ride to the back of the Manpower building in Carbondale, Illinois.
I gave the woman a ride, and I transported her sleeping supplies (that had almost been to heavy for
me to carry) that she apparently had carried cross town with her crutches. The woman asked me for
some food, so I brought her some food as she relaxed next to the Manpower building at the same
location that I believe that she intended to stay the night. Overall, I believe the woman's name
is Chris, so please pray for her, and if any of you ever find her, then feel free to offer her some
help (including gospel help).

I told a Baptist minister about what I did and about how I gave her his telephone number for future
help, and he appeared to be very upset about what I did. He claimed that by not giving her the
gospel but instead by giving her food instead that I was saying to her something like (and I
paraphrase), "Go to HELL you Fucking Whore." Overall, I did not give her the gospel when I
transported her because I really did not feel that I was in the best opportunity to share the
gospel, so I would like to ask the group your thoughts about the issue?

Your thoughts,

Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com

     Jim (Buddy) T.

  My Baby's  Daddy

      That's Me

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[Evan Hale]

Sorry about any character malignment again.  *Evan removing himself from discussion about this particular topic*  I have no idea what really happened, so I'm gonna shut my mouth.  If Matt wasn't telling the truth about what happened, it changes everything.  Didn't realize he was talking about anyone on this group, much less that someone would disagree with him on the substance of his account.  Again, I apologize if I contributed to any scandal or division.  *Evan shutting up for good about this is 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .*

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