Migrate chat channels from freenode to libera.chat

[Tim Jacomb]

Hi all,

I would like to propose moving the following channels that currently live on freenode to libera.chat:

• #jenkins
• #jenkins-hosting
• #jenkins-infra
• #jenkins-release

There's been some very user / FOSS hostile behaviour from the owner of freenode, latest example can be seen in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27286628.

Implementation is:

• Update jenkins.io
• Let people currently in the channel know
• Update ircbot to connect to new server and create new credentials

There's been other conversations about moving the community to places like discourse and replacing the ircbot with Jira webhooks, but I don't believe that this is the right thread for those.

ircbot does more than just hosting, it manages github permissions and Jira components as well.

Any changes to ircbot require or Jira webhook integration requires interested contributors to build solutions.

Thanks

Tim

[Olblak]

Hi Tim,

Thanks for bootstrapping this, I definitely support moving from Freenode to Libera.chat.

I have a limited bandwidth capacity at the moment but I'll try to help as soon as I can.

I think it's better to first move away from Freenode and then start a discussion about the default communication channel we want to use.

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[Oleg Nenashev]

Hi all,

I definitely support such a move. For the record we've had a discussion about the migration among the Jenkins governance board and infra/security members. I believe we have a consensus that we want to move, effective as soon as possible. I also support moving all the listed channels. We have other channels, but all of them are rather dead or redundant.

Notes about channels:

• I would like to keep #jenkins equivalent, but not as a declared default channel. We could create #jenkins-users and #jenkins-dev similar to the mailing lists. Discourse would be indeed preferable for many subjects, and the IRC channels might become redundant (see the parallel thread)
  
• Private CERT chat is not a problem, we can just discontinue it in favor of mailing lists
• #jenkins-release and #jenkins-infra can be moved to Libera chat or any other chat like Gitter or CDF Slack. I have a preference to keep them on the same platform with conversation history by default
• #jenkins-hosting can be moved anywhere or just replaced by some form of GitHub/Jira integration bot
• #jenkins-meeting and #jenkins-hackhouse can be deleted. For meetings, if needed, we can create #jenkins-governance later

Best regards,

Oleg Nenashev

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[Oleg Nenashev]

Thanks to Alex Earl for the IRCBot migration! https://github.com/jenkins-infra/ircbot/pull/100

I think we should not wait until the next Governance meeting if there is a strong consensus in the mailing list. This is a time sensitive topic, and we need to migrate away as soon as possible IMHO

[Damien Duportal]

Thanks y'all for stepping so fast on this topic!

Seems a good idea to quickly move on Libera, and delay the "default community channel" to later, with a proper community discussion.

If anything is required on the infra's side, I can take over while Olivier is not available, and handover back afterwards.

Damien

[Basil Crow]

+1. I opened a PR to cover updating the references on jenkins.io:
https://github.com/jenkins-infra/jenkins.io/pull/4384

FYI see the project registration instructions here:
https://libera.chat/chanreg#project-registration

[Oleg Nenashev]

FYI see the project registration instructions here:

https://libera.chat/chanreg#project-registration

AFAICT from the Governance Board discussion, Gavin and Olivier have already submitted a registration request.

It just takes time to process

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[Gavin Mogan]

Project registration has been completed since Saturday I think. 

I've removed the channel locks so anyone can create can register channels, project owners can claim the channel if it ever becomes an issue.

Cloaks can be requested by any group member.

Jenkins group members:

Primary (can claim. Can manage group member lists)

halkeye (me)

Olblak

Secondary (primary plus requesting cloaks for users)

Nobody yet

Cloaks:

We have jenkins/* reserved

I'm thinking jenkins/contributor/$nick for most people, then maybe board specific if we care.

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[Tim Jacomb]

The ircbot has been moved over

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[Tim Jacomb]

Thanks all

Last call for any feedback before we merge the Jenkins.io PR

The channels have all been set up.

If you had 'voice' on freenode and want it on Libera then please verify yourself with someone who has voice/op on libera out of band (email / gitter / github, etc).

A number of people have left freenode and deleted their accounts already.

[Oleg Nenashev]

+1 for going ahead and making the changes official

Maybe we need a short announcement blog, WDYT?

[Mark Waite]

+1 from me

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[Oleg Nenashev]

Hi all,

As many other colleagues, I was banned from Freenode this night without any prior notice. I think it's time to officially proclaim Freenode IRC dead for the Jenkins community, and to make an announcement about our migration to Libera Chat. Any objections? I can make this announcement if others are busy.

Thanks to Gavin, Tim, Olivier and all contributors for driving the migration of our IRC channels and automation.

Best regards,

Oleg

[Baptiste Mathus]

Agreed, time to move on. 

BTW I see https://www.jenkins.io/chat/ is already updated, what do you have in mind in terms of comm? Like a blog and some twitter relaying I suppose?

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[Olblak]

Imho the blogpost is the most important if someone is available to write something :)

Not everybody monitors jenkins-infra/jenkins.io pull requests :p

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[Oleg Nenashev]

Blogpost or maybe just a Discourse announcement. We can try the latter to optimize time spent on writing.

For socual media purposes, discourse is perfectly fine with me

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[Oleg Nenashev]

IRC migration announcement is ready for review: https://github.com/jenkins-infra/jenkins.io/pull/4425 

Thanks to Mark for starting the blog and to Daniel for the feedback.