Jenkins is Getting Old ! is that true ?!!

[hossa...@gmail.com]

Hello my friends , 

i hope you doing greate.

i have read an article that talk about jenkins and some of its inconveniences .

it's a subject to discuss about .

this is the link to the blog:   https://itnext.io/jenkins-is-getting-old-2c98b3422f79

 

[mez.p...@gmail.com]

A lot of those points resonated with me. 

I started using Jenkins (well.... Hudson) years ago to simplify manual builds and quickly discovered the power it brings. This was really exciting. I am a mobile developer and I also maintain a plugin on Jenkins. All the issues I had to struggle with on mobile platforms are still present on Jenkins. Hard to test, hard to reason (why things need to happen the way they do), poor documentation, lack of examples of "how to do it correctly". I'm pleased to say a lot of that has changed on my day to day work as a mobile develop but I have to say, I really struggle with Jenkins.

One thing that really helps on other platforms (Android / Spring Boot / etc) is having an opinionated way of doing things. Maybe I'm missing something but the bare bones starter project still allows for a lot of deviation meaning plugins can end up looking wildly different.

However, the community is great. It really is. Lots of people willing to help. So I really cannot fault it there. And of course, I and other community members can always update the documentation and contribute back. And we should. But personally I've simply not had time to dedicate to this as I only dabble in Jenkins as a hobby not full time. I need a CI ecosystem that just works and that I can easily contribute to. 

I should stress this is my personal opinion and I don't speak for any other user of Jenkins but myself. 

[Daniel Beck]

Not really a topic appropriate for this list, at least on a level as abstract as "discuss this".

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[Parker Ennis]

Hey Mez,

Great feedback here. I don't think we've met before but my name is Parker and I'm currently the product marketing manager for Jenkins at CloudBees. It's nice to e-meet you :). You mentioned "One thing that really helps on other platforms (Android / Spring Boot / etc) is having an opinionated way of doing things. Maybe I'm missing something but the bare bones starter project still allows for a lot of deviation meaning plugins can end up looking wildly different." I completely agree and we're actively working to discover and implement improvements on that front. I think many other people in the Jenkins community also resonate with your comment, "I need a CI ecosystem that just works and that I can easily contribute to." Well put. Would you be willing to meet for 20-30 minutes sometime in the near future and chat so I can gather your thoughts in more detail? I'm already putting together an RFE to send in to based on your comments! Let me know if you have time to get together and we can coordinate offline. Thanks a bunch!

Regards,

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[mez.p...@gmail.com]

Hi Parker, nice to meet you too 🙂. Sure thing, anything I can do to help. I'm a bit time limited at the moment but let me know what you need and I'll try and make some time to discuss. To save everyone getting spammed on this thread I'll email you directly. Cheers.