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I know that the fear of the unexpected consequences is always an issue. However, given the benefits of improved an Configuration UI I think we should be willing to take on some breaking changes. I did it recently (for the Uno-Choice plugin we developed) and although I admit initially it was frightening, at the end I took the plunge and never regretted it since...
@Tom, divs, css and tab it's cool, but as not UI developer i will expect "building blocks" that will allow me just to use form and databinding. This will also allow enhance/fix problems only in this block that will automatically apply to other places.
More thoughts.- I think that other UI problem is maintainers/developers programming knowledge and lack of good documentation with good variants for them. After INFRA changes i hope people will finally be able to start enhancing documentation.
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Am 21.04.2015 um 22:09 schrieb Gus Reiber <gre...@cloudbees.com>:Hey Daniel,Awesome feedback. You have pointed out a few things that I have totally missed and a few things that I have just not shown well with my wireframes. So, let me see if I can work my way through your feedback:
- Item selection page issues:
- No descriptive text: I very much agree that is important, but I am thinking that text could move to a hover. Maybe not though, but I should have shown the hover in my pics here.
- Default category: All the uncategorized items would get pushed under the "Plugins" category, though that name may or may not be right. It would be important that new categories make their way back into the community on a regular basis so plugin authors could self-select the category they want their new item to be associated with. This would all need to be documented, but for now...
- Not realistic category distribution: This is definitely the tricky bit, because it would have to be done well to be helpful. For what its worth, the categorization I am showing is based on the plugins CloudBees actually uses internally. That isn't a great sample size, but it isn't cherry picking, either. You are absolutely right, the categories need to proven out in a handful of real-life scenarios.
- Build step icons:
Again, you are right that this only works if it really works. We would offer three (imperfect) pieces to help it work:
- We at CloudBees (with the permission of the plugin author) would take the work of backfilling icons for commonly used plugins
- We would offer a set of images that are pictorial abstractions for common job related functions that plugin authors could pick from
- We offer a default icon or icons
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