Without that the program proposal seems to be unstable.
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Liam has listed these topics in Open Questions section in the JEP, and IMHO it worth discussing them.
great point Oleg, we'll be sure to include appropriate verbiage
On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 5:22 AM, Oleg Nenashev <o.v.ne...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alyssa and Liam,
Thanks for finalizing it! Commented in the JEP && duplicating it here. Generally it looks good as a draft, but I have concerns about the process. It covers the SUCCESS path well, but taking the target number of ambassadors (20) it's important to take other scenarios into account to make the program more robust.
The election process seems to be bogus by design, because any existing Ambassador may block the election process during his term if he goes rival. There should be a process for overriding votes or terminating membership in the case of such actions . IMHO it should be also explicit that Jenkins Ambassadors are expected to follow Code of Conduct and that their membership may be terminated by Jenkins board in the case of serious violation.
Without that the program proposal seems to be unstable.
BR, Oleg
On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 12:36:29 AM UTC+2, alytong13 wrote:Hello,A year or so ago I attempted to initiate the Jenkins Ambassador program. Due to lack of resources the program was put on the backburner. Now, with additional resources, we are able to give this another try.With that said, Liam has kindly written up the pull request and the initial draft of the JEP. I think it's straightforward however there's always room for improvement - if you have feedback pls do share.Thank you,Liam and Alyssa
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Does it mean that any Jenkins Ambassador can block all candidates from being elected during his/her term? Does not look good, people may go negative and toxic sometimes. I would rather prefer to see a vote override engine in this JEP.
AT: This is a good point. Let's forego ambassadors voting on candidate(s). If a candidate meet the criterias, and the Events Officer/Board members can validate their contributions we will make the decision to nominate him/her to ambassador.
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Does it mean that any Jenkins Ambassador can block all candidates from being elected during his/her term? Does not look good, people may go negative and toxic sometimes. I would rather prefer to see a vote override engine in this JEP.
AT: This is a good point. Let's forego ambassadors voting on candidate(s). If a candidate meet the criterias, and the Events Officer/Board members can validate their contributions we will make the decision to nominate him/her to ambassador
Use the term "Jenkins Board members and officers" instead of specific list of back vote casters?
AT: Acknowledged
AT: General application process will apply. In addition, if we see someone within the community who are fulfilling all the criterias of an ambassador we will definitely nominate him/her.How are potential Ambassadors found and nominated?
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Hi Alyssa, thanks for the response!Please find my comments belowDoes it mean that any Jenkins Ambassador can block all candidates from being elected during his/her term? Does not look good, people may go negative and toxic sometimes. I would rather prefer to see a vote override engine in this JEP.
AT: This is a good point. Let's forego ambassadors voting on candidate(s). If a candidate meet the criterias, and the Events Officer/Board members can validate their contributions we will make the decision to nominate him/her to ambassador
It would be great if Ambassadors still have opportunity to provide feedback and cast non-blocking votes to avoid bottlenecks.E.g. we can say "66% of votes should be positive" or so.Use the term "Jenkins Board members and officers" instead of specific list of back vote casters?
AT: AcknowledgedDoes it mean yes/no? Or just "to be discussed"?
AT: General application process will apply. In addition, if we see someone within the community who are fulfilling all the criterias of an ambassador we will definitely nominate him/her.How are potential Ambassadors found and nominated?
What is "general application process"?
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pls see embedded below:
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