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Betty Chapin

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Aug 27, 2007, 12:55:39 AM8/27/07
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Hi, is anyone out there? I have been having a bad time for awhile. This
year marked 50 years out of high school for me and the 24th of August
marked the 50th wedding anniversary of myself and my kids Dad. He
passed away 8 years ago but we have been divorced for 15 years.
I think 50 years is a long time. I have 4 children, 2 boys, and two girls.
Two still in the Religion and the other two out. I have 16 grandchildren
and 9 I can't see and 7 I get to see. My problem is each day gets a
little closer to my death and I so much want to see the 2 children
 I never see and the 9 grandchildren. I have been so upset over it that
I sent 4 e-mails to my daughter. She will never answer them and I know
it but just am having a hard time accepting it. Should I continue writing
them hoping that someday she will open one and read it and return an
e-mail to me or should I just never write to her again? Life is going
so fast and each day that is lost cannot be regained. I wish I could
just forget all of them but I just can't. Why can some people talk to
their dis/d family and some can't? How can anyone just keep letting
those years go and never see their family. How can they judge that
way? Am I just losing it?
                    Betty
 


 



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Ben Strewons

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Aug 27, 2007, 9:33:56 AM8/27/07
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Well, a relationship requires the effort of two people. From what it sounds like, there is no effort coming from two of your kids. You can only put so much effort into a relationship that doesn't exist before you see there's no point in continuing to do so. Sometimes, it may be best to accept how things are and move on with your life. Take the energy and time that you would have spent with the two children who won't talk to you and put it toward the other two who are putting effort into their relationship with you.
 
If one (or both) of your shunning children happen to come around, I'm sure they'll let you know.

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Emily

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Aug 27, 2007, 10:40:43 AM8/27/07
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Betty,  I'm so sorry you're going through this.  I'd have to say that if I
were you, I'd concentrate on the family I have and try to reach the
conclusion I was never going to see the others again.  I know that
sounds harsh, but you are tearing yourself to pieces over something
I don't think will ever happen.  It may, but chances are that it won't.
Just pour all your love into the family that accepts you as you are.
 
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Aug 28, 2007, 5:43:18 AM8/28/07
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Betty, I know it's hard, but, sometimes we must just let them go and let god take care of things...........it isn't good to get stuck in the past........i was for a long time........had a good teacher, my mom, but, now, i'm choosing to live a better, healthier life and make new memories..........
 
love,
Terri
 
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J Kind

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Aug 28, 2007, 12:14:28 PM8/28/07
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oh yes, thats the key.. its time for a new chapter in the book so to
speak. The universe truly is with us.. We have lessons, but so do our
children.
I left a 38 year marriage. Two of my kids are for it, one is not (his
dad moved in with his family)
so, I felt bad, but I cant change how it is happening. Im moving
forward. did it hurt? yes, hurt like heck. It still hurts, but not to
the point of it stopping me from living what life I have left here on
this earth. Its my time to boogie, and they might come around yet, but
dont wait for them,, It zaps all our energy.
Hugs
Judy


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Betty Chapin

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Aug 28, 2007, 3:51:37 PM8/28/07
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I know we have to move ahead and I have but there are just days
that I guess get to me because I am sure not getting any younger.
I wrote a note to her and ask her how she will feel when I die and
the earth is still here and then how is it going to be when she is
about to die and its still here. I told her she would have to think
about all the time we lost and she finds it is not as she thought.
We can never go back and get those years back. Of coarse she didn't
answer me and probably never even read it.
 
38 years is a long time. I got 33 and thought that was quite awhile.
Most of my kids were for it I think but our lives have never been the
same and it has been over 15 years now. Most of the 9 grandkids I
would not know if they walked in the door. I really don't have many
feelings for them. They would be like strangers now and we really have
nothing in common any more. It hurts to say that but guess it is true.
Yes it does take a lot of energy to worry about them.
 
I have a wedding of my 25 year old grandson to go to next month. He is
in the army and so is she. In Dec. my 27 year old granddaughter is getting
married so I am really blessed and you know what the jw's can't do a thing
to ruin that for me. My granddaughter that is my daughter's daughter got married
5 years ago and I wasn't invited. It hurt but it didn't kill me. At the time
I thought it might but I survived and am looking foreward to these other
two wedding's.
 
       Betty



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> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:14:28 -0700
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Ravyn Guiliani

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Aug 28, 2007, 6:35:40 PM8/28/07
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Dear Betty,
you can count your blessings--yoou are a lucky woman! The JWs left me childless, and with no family. Not even the "worldly" family who have taken up with my father and his second wife--and they are my MOTHER'S relatives! And my in-laws---only thing that could be worse there is if they were JWs! Fortunately not, but that still does not make them worth knowing, so JWs are not the only ones who can turn a good thing so bad.....top it off with bad health and a difficult marriage (because of the in-laws)! So hug the ones you have and trust God to see to the others. Many many people are worse off that you are---people who have lost their entire families to fires and disasters or crime....we just had a father shoot his three teen age daughters while they slept and kill himself last week end. I cannot even imagine how that mother feels.
There are worse fates that JWs. It may not feel like it from where you are right now, but look around you and see the ones who do love you!
(and don't forget us!)


~~~Ravyn†
I am a Christian. --Matthew 28: 18-20. History proves the Church He was talking to became known as the Catholic Church with the See of St. Peter in Rome - He did not say He would support schism or reform or protest , He said He would be with THIS Church until the End. I do NOT believe in Bible Alone (Sola Scriptura), I DO believe in God's Word alone. 2Thessalonians 2:15,  Matthew 4:4 -God's Word is Scripture, Tradition and the Magisterium of the Church as directed by the Holy Spirit. I believe in Apostolic authority and succession; and the Real Presence in the Eucharist.-- I am a Roman Catholic.


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Gail Nadeau

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Aug 28, 2007, 10:22:04 PM8/28/07
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The JWs have wrecked more families than could ever be counted.  Some day your daughter will realize how very foolish she has been....hopefully sooner than later.

At least you have some family with whom to enjoy good times, Betty.  Cherish them and feel pity for those who refuse to enjoy life with you.

Gail

Betty Chapin

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Aug 29, 2007, 12:08:41 AM8/29/07
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Hi Ravyn,
You are right and I do have many blessings. I know you went through the
year 1975 when they told all the young kids not to have kids because the
end was so near. Thank Heavens my 4 kids did not pay any attention and
I have 16 Grandchildren. Also I had friends when I became a Witness and
I kept most of the the 30 years I was in. When I got out they were all there
waiting for me. I was the only one in the family to become a Witness and I
did that when I was 23. My only regret is that my Mother was dead when I
got out but we had had a wonderful relationship all those years. My family
and I are very close. I had rotten in-laws to but they didn't get to see their
grandchildren as much as they would have if they had been different. My
father-in-law was an alcoholic and my husband turned into one too when
he reached 50. I am so sorry to hear about your in-laws. I hope things will
get better for you soon. I am very glad to have met the ones here because
then you know you are not alone. I have fibromyalgia but otherwise I am in
pretty good health i think. I am still able to work but am so glad when the
night is over and i can go home. Thank you for writing and I hope things go
better soon for you and I won't forget about you.
         Betty


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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:35:40 -0700
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Betty Chapin

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Aug 29, 2007, 12:15:57 AM8/29/07
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I had a marriage of 33 years but 38 is really a long time. If I were still
married to him it would have been 50 years the 24th of this month. I
guess I was just feeling sorry for myself. I do have a good life and I
have everything I need. So many friends that I love dearly and a job
to go to. Anyway i want for nothing. I have a house that is paid for
and a brand new bright red 2007 Focus sitting in my yard. Of coarse
I have to pay for it but that's why I work. Anyway thank you for writing
to me.
          Betty





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