Greg,
Thanks for sharing the podcast. I agree, there are a lot of interesting
ideas in the conversation. I still believe the basic principles of democracies
and market economies are sound. The current structures of democracies and
capitalist economies have simple become so distorted by the pursuit of
individual self-interests that most people can no longer see, understand, or
appreciate importance of either democracies or market economies. Perhaps most
important, sustainable market economies must function within the bounds of
equitable and just democratic societies. Also, the bounds within which market
economies must function must reflect a consensus of the people governed.
Obviously, neither on these conditions are reflected in todays capitalist
economies or democratic societies.
According to Plato, centralization of political power is characteristic of
a political system that has moved away from democracy, toward oligarchy, to
tyranny, and then collapse or revolution. Our government is no longer a
government of the common people or “demos” but by the corporate oligarchs—or
possibly a tyrant. Centralization of economic power is a characteristic of an
economic system that has moved away from the competitive markets that
characterize classical capitalism, toward oligopoly, to monopoly, and then
revolution. We no longer have a capitalist economy we have a global corporate
oligopoly. My point is that these are natural tendencies of human civilizations
that are known within civilized human societies. The survival of humanity
ultimately depends on individual having the collective will, to control and
restrain their natural tendencies toward centralization of political power which
allows the centralization of economic power. The weakness is not necessarily in
democracy or capitalism, but in the human will and ability to restrain our
pursuit of individual self-interest for the sake of the greater common
good—which is also in our enlightened self-interest.
That said, I agree that our national political priority has become economic
growth—at all cost, regardless of the consequences. I have attached a recent
paper where I trace history of how growth has become a legislative priority of
the U.S. government—which has taken us from Capitalism to Corporatism and from
Democracy to Corpocracy. Contrary to common belief, I do not believe that
capitalism, at least market economies, require economic growth or the
elimination of interest rates. Individuals and businesses can still either
prosper or fail economically while borrowing money and paying interest in an
economy that is not growing. The failure rate is simply a few percentage points
higher in an economy that isn’t growing. The vast majority individuals and
businesses wouldn’t even notice the difference. A growth rate equal to
population growth would sustain a constant level of per capita economic
prosperity.
I agree that advocacy groups today have lost sight of working for the
common good and are instead working for an economic advantage for their
organizations or members. More important, our elected representatives are no
longer working for the common good of the nation as a whole but for the economic
interests of their individual or collective constituents. Their constituents
demand it, or at least respond to their economic promises of jobs and economic
growth.
I agree also that decentralization an essential characteristic of
democracies and market economies and that the only logical means of restoring
the integrity of our economy or democracy is by starting at the grassroots
level—in communities, then networks of communities, and the alliances of
community networks to reclaim our democracy and decentralize our economy. I
agree also that the power to bring about fundamental change arises from
voluntary cooperation rather than from grand plans imposed on people and
communities. Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations was “An Inquiry in to
the Nature and Sources” of Wealth Among Nations. He was simply documenting an
economic system that had arisen within nations, not proposing some grand plan or
model to be imposed on nations.
A fundamental characteristic of capitalism is that even when competitive
markets are working perfectly, capitalism maximizes the collective economic
benefits of the economy to individual consumers--not the economic benefits of a
society as a whole, not the economic benefits of individual workers or workers
in general, not benefits to people as members of communities or societies, and
not the long run productivity of the natural or human resources that support the
long productivity of the economy. We the people , through personal relationships
and by working collective through government, must take care of all of those
other things that contribute to our overall quality of life.
We simply cannot ask an economy to do things economies cannot possibly do.
These are not market failures, they are market “impossibilities.” That’s what
individual intentionality and collective democracies are for, to do all of the
things that markets cannot do.
Finally, I agree, we need to focus on doing what we can do in our little
part of the world and trust that the power for fundamental change will arise
from within caring communities of people working together for the common
good.
(Excuse the typos. I’m catching up after being out of town.)
I remain hopeful.
Hope all is well in your world... and the ice is ready for skating.
John I.
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