Worth looking at? (HTML5)

[Lincoln Baxter, III]

http://www.dzone.com/links/r/appui_a_new_html5_application_framework.html

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Lincoln Baxter, III
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"Simpler is better."

[Jason Porter]

Pretty cool. It's in its infancy so it would certainly be a good one to get behind now. 

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[Lincoln Baxter, III]

Or at least to get some ideas from.

[Burr Sutter]

One thing that I really like about jQuery Mobile is the
"out-of-the-box" controls/widgets - it is very easy to get your
initial mobile-focused web app up - very easy programming model when
compared to other solutions - plus the advantage of edit-save-refresh
productivity.

For this app-ui, I like is push/pop "view container" way of thinking -
seems to line up with the way iOS/XCode/Objective-C handles things.

It would be interesting to see this combined with zepto.js instead of
jQuery - something even lighter weight for 3G mobile downloads.



On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III

[kris.b...@gmail.com]

I haven't looked into this much yet but it might be interesting to investigate it as a possible starting point for something of our own. That being said, I also am not a huge fan of reinventing the wheel that jQuery and others have already created.

Also Burr, zepto is not even something I would consider. It's lighter because it isn't as powerful as jQuery, it is buggier and its code base is disgusting to the point that I refuse to touch it.

[Burr Sutter]

I appreciate the point but I have found some folks going to production
on Zepto because jQuery is simply too heavy - offering functionality
that is focused on IE6-IE9, code that is unnecessary for the mobile
browser.

I suspect the jQuery team can lighten their load, offering a dedicated
version for mobile browsers.

I think the team with the best "widget set" will win the day -
developers do not wish to build their own "controls", they would
rather build their app.

[Lincoln Baxter, III]

Errai :)

[Kris Borchers]

Ok, but my point is size, though important, should not be the only deciding factor. Performance, especially on a mobile device is much more important to me. See http://jsperf.com/zepto-vs-jquery-selectors for one of many examples. And yes, there is code specific to browsers and not just old IE but removing that wouldn't cut the size that much. Also, there is a specific effort to not only not add bytes to jQuery but cut bytes while still adding and improving functionality.