[jazz_guitar] Yamaha AEX-500N
Duffy...@gmail.com
Anyone play a Yamaha AEX-500N nylon string acoustic-electric?
I am thinking of buying a used one, mainly for Brazilian-type jazz.
Thanks,
Jack
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Brian Kelly
I have played them at the store and if it is the one I am thinking of I like them for the price. I considered buying one but I couldn’t get it into my brain that Yamaha was making nylon string guitars. I had never see one before I went shopping for an affordable but gigable nylon string guitar.
Brian
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Darvin Willhoite
I have one that I play quite often. It has a good sound in my opinion, and is easy to play. The neck is narrower than a normal classical which makes it a little easier for electric players to switch back and forth. I used it occasionally when I played in a church band.
D
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near...@juno.com
Hi Jack, I own one. I got a great deal on a used one (less than $150
w/gig bag) so picked it up as a "beater" guitar. I really like my Yamaha
AEX1500 (Martin Taylor model w/steel strings), so I am very happy with
the build quality of Yamaha guitars.
It sounds pretty good amplified. Acoustically, it is very weak. The neck
is like an electric guitar in size, not a typical classical. (much
smaller than my Godin ACS) Also, it has a bolt on neck. It is a
hollowbody so you might have a bit more trouble with feedback at loud
volumes.
It would be a good guitar if you are mainly used to playing electrics and
have a decent way to amplify a nylon string guitar, live.
Bottom line, if you want the nylon string sound for a few tunes
throughout the night and it isn't your "bread and butter" it would be an
economically viable choice. If nylon string is an important part of your
style, you might want to spend more on something else.
I have only used mine a couple times on gigs. I would usually use the
Godin. (which is a solidbody and has synth access)
Good Luck,
Scott Dercks
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:28:46 -0000 "jackd...@rocketmail.com"
<Duffy...@gmail.com> writes:
> Anyone play a Yamaha AEX-500N nylon string acoustic-electric?
>
> I am thinking of buying a used one, mainly for Brazilian-type jazz.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
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Brian,
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rguitarjj
I've played one. It felt great and sounded good.
I believe it's 24 3/4 scale. You won't find very many nylon guitars at that scale length.
The neck is narrow enough that you'd have to make sure you can get the open strings to sound in the sorts of chords that Brazilian music often has. I check, for example, x10110. You also might try x6806x -- stuff like that. Make sure you've got enough room to get those inner open strings ringing out.
--- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, "jackduffie@..." <Duffy.jack@...> wrote:
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> Anyone play a Yamaha AEX-500N nylon string acoustic-electric?
>
> I am thinking of buying a used one, mainly for Brazilian-type jazz.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
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John Amato
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I've played one. It felt great and sounded good.
I believe it's 24 3/4 scale. You won't find very many nylon guitars at that scale length.
The neck is narrow enough that you'd have to make sure you can get the open strings to sound in the sorts of chords that Brazilian music often has. I check, for example, x10110. You also might try x6806x -- stuff like that. Make sure you've got enough room to get those inner open strings ringing out.
--- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, "jackduffie@..." <Duffy.jack@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone play a Yamaha AEX-500N nylon string acoustic-electric?
>
> I am thinking of buying a used one, mainly for Brazilian-type jazz.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
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rguitarjj
I'd double check the nut width and scale length specs. I'm not sure they're the same.
Also, there is a physical comfort issue with the Godin (I have a nylon multiac). It has a short lower bout and a bridge that's nearer the middle of the body. That puts the nut way to the left, but if you shift the guitar to the right, that short lower bout falls off your leg. Not a problem in traditional classical posture, but not so good for others.
--- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, John Amato <jamato316@...> wrote:
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> I played this box at GC and finally went with a Godin Multiac Nylon SA ... Same width and dimensions but for me it sounded and played better and is also MIDI.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:30 PM, "rguitarjj" <rpjazzguitar@...> wrote:
>
> > I've played one. It felt great and sounded good.
> >
> > I believe it's 24 3/4 scale. You won't find very many nylon guitars at that scale length.
> >
> > The neck is narrow enough that you'd have to make sure you can get the open strings to sound in the sorts of chords that Brazilian music often has. I check, for example, x10110. You also might try x6806x -- stuff like that. Make sure you've got enough room to get those inner open strings ringing out.
> >
> > --- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, "jackduffie@" <Duffy.jack@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone play a Yamaha AEX-500N nylon string acoustic-electric?
> > >
> > > I am thinking of buying a used one, mainly for Brazilian-type jazz.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Specs aren't the same. Godin is 25.5. Yamaha 24 3/4. Nut width on the Godin is, from what I can tell, 1/8 wider.
--- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, "rguitarjj" <rpjazzguitar@...> wrote:
>
> I'd double check the nut width and scale length specs. I'm not sure they're the same.
>
> Also, there is a physical comfort issue with the Godin (I have a nylon multiac). It has a short lower bout and a bridge that's nearer the middle of the body. That puts the nut way to the left, but if you shift the guitar to the right, that short lower bout falls off your leg. Not a problem in traditional classical posture, but not so good for others.
>
> --- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, John Amato <jamato316@> wrote:
> >
> > I played this box at GC and finally went with a Godin Multiac Nylon SA ... Same width and dimensions but for me it sounded and played better and is also MIDI.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:30 PM, "rguitarjj" <rpjazzguitar@> wrote:
> >
> > > I've played one. It felt great and sounded good.
> > >
> > > I believe it's 24 3/4 scale. You won't find very many nylon guitars at that scale length.
> > >
> > > The neck is narrow enough that you'd have to make sure you can get the open strings to sound in the sorts of chords that Brazilian music often has. I check, for example, x10110. You also might try x6806x -- stuff like that. Make sure you've got enough room to get those inner open strings ringing out.
> > >
> > > --- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, "jackduffie@" <Duffy.jack@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anyone play a Yamaha AEX-500N nylon string acoustic-electric?
> > > >
> > > > I am thinking of buying a used one, mainly for Brazilian-type jazz.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jack
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Brian Kelly
Juan,
I don’t know much about the different models but I have a Cordoba Fusion 14 with cedar top. I love it. They were discontinued pretty quick after their initial release since the build quality was so bad (made in China). I bought three of them and had to return tow of them. The third came direct from Cordoba. When they discontinued them the factory gave me a guitar that had been setup and used as a demonstrator for sales to their dealers. It was made a lot better than the other two. They released replacement for that guitar called an Orchestra but I don’t think those guitars are joined at the 14 fret.
So far all I have done to the guitar was change the tuners. My guitar also came with a B-Band A6T pickup system that I like. I like it well enough that even though I have a spare L.L. Baggs Anthem pickup system (my favorite) I left the B-Band installed. I don’t know if it just accidentally matches with this guitar particularly well but I think I like it just as it is and I am afraid to fool with it. The others I had had Fishman Systems in them.
Brian
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JVeg...@aol.com
Juan,
I don’t know much about the different models but I have a
Cordoba Fusion 14 with cedar top. I love it. They were discontinued pretty
quick after their initial release since the build quality was so bad (made in
China). I bought three of them and had to return tow of them. The third came
direct from Cordoba. When they discontinued them the factory gave me a guitar
that had been setup and used as a demonstrator for sales to their dealers. It
was made a lot better than the other two. They released replacement for that
guitar called an Orchestra but I don’t think those guitars are joined at the
14 fret.
So far all I have done to the guitar was change the tuners. My
guitar also came with a B-Band A6T pickup system that I like. I like it well
enough that even though I have a spare L.L. Baggs Anthem pickup system (my
favorite) I left the B-Band installed. I don’t know if it just accidentally
matches with this guitar particularly well but I think I like it just as it is
and I am afraid to fool with it. The others I had had Fishman Systems in them.
Brian
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John Amato
I prefer 25.5 with big hands I labor on 24" scales ...
Specs aren't the same. Godin is 25.5. Yamaha 24 3/4. Nut width on the Godin is, from what I can tell, 1/8 wider.
--- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, "rguitarjj" <rpjazzguitar@...> wrote:
>
> I'd double check the nut width and scale length specs. I'm not sure they're the same.
>
> Also, there is a physical comfort issue with the Godin (I have a nylon multiac). It has a short lower bout and a bridge that's nearer the middle of the body. That puts the nut way to the left, but if you shift the guitar to the right, that short lower bout falls off your leg. Not a problem in traditional classical posture, but not so good for others.
>
> --- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, John Amato <jamato316@> wrote:
> >
> > I played this box at GC and finally went with a Godin Multiac Nylon SA ... Same width and dimensions but for me it sounded and played better and is also MIDI.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:30 PM, "rguitarjj" <rpjazzguitar@> wrote:
> >
> > > I've played one. It felt great and sounded good.
> > >
> > > I believe it's 24 3/4 scale. You won't find very many nylon guitars at that scale length.
> > >
> > > The neck is narrow enough that you'd have to make sure you can get the open strings to sound in the sorts of chords that Brazilian music often has. I check, for example, x10110. You also might try x6806x -- stuff like that. Make sure you've got enough room to get those inner open strings ringing out.
> > >
> > > --- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, "jackduffie@" <Duffy.jack@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anyone play a Yamaha AEX-500N nylon string acoustic-electric?
> > > >
> > > > I am thinking of buying a used one, mainly for Brazilian-type jazz.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jack
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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johnre...@gmail.com
> Anyone play a Yamaha AEX-500N nylon string acoustic-electric?
>
> I am thinking of buying a used one, mainly for Brazilian-type jazz.
As far as I can see, Brazilian players e.g. Luiz Bonfa, Baden Powell,
Charlie Byrd, all played more standard classical nylon designs, that
is, flat top with 2" fretboard and about 650mm scale length. The
fretboard is just what's comfortable for you, but I wonder how the
archtop nylon sound differs from flattop sound.
> I couldn't get it into my brain that Yamaha was making nylon string
> guitars
My GC31 is a wonderful guitar. The GC series has a confusingly
similar name to the CG series, but the GC guitars are hand-made in
Yammamatsu, Japan, well-made with good wood. Something about the neck
joint, or whatever the construction is called where the neck meets
the body, is different from the most common design, which is what's
said to give these instruments a less 'Spanishy', more neutral sound,
which I like for jazz. There's been a fair amount of discussion of
the GC series on classical groups e.g. Delcamp (http://
www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/index.php).
If you want to talk about Brazilian guitar, _the_ place to go is to
Brazil itself (http://www.violao.org/forum/2-violao/). It's in
Portuguese, but everyone seems to speak English, and it's a friendly
group (and Google can translate web sites). There's also a Brazilian
group that's half in English, half Portuguese (http://
brazilianguitar.net/).
John R.
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In the last couple of years I have seen shows with Dori Caymmi, Joyce Moreno, Ricardo Vogt and Chico Pinheiro playing bodyless nylon string guitars. Chico plays the Frameworks. I don't recall which one Dori and Joyce used Ricardo toured with Elaine Elias playing a Yamaha silent. I have a feeling that they wouldn't play these in a concert that wasn't an airplane ride away, but they all sounded great.
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JVeg...@aol.com
In the last couple of years I have seen shows with Dori Caymmi, Joyce
Moreno, Ricardo Vogt and Chico Pinheiro playing bodyless nylon string guitars.
Chico plays the Frameworks. I don't recall which one Dori and Joyce used
Ricardo toured with Elaine Elias playing a Yamaha silent. I have a feeling
that they wouldn't play these in a concert that wasn't an airplane ride away,
but they all sounded great.
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rguitarjj
I've used a Yamaha Silent with an amp. Works fine. Same with the Godin Multiac Nylon. BTW, the Yamaha has a terrific neck, but the Godin's RMC pickup system is the better sounding unit.
--- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, JVegaTrio@... wrote:
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>
> Sometime back, I saw Lionel Loueke (sp?), and I believe he was playing a
> Soloette at the H'wood Bowl, sounded just fine. I suspect the "secret" is
> to dial in a low-level sound you like, then pipe that into the FOH and let
> them amplify it; using an amp is really a pain with these kinds of guitars,
> at least for me...
>
> Cheers,
> JV
>
> Juan Vega
>
> In a message dated 12/6/2012 4:17:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> rpjazzguitar@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> In the last couple of years I have seen shows with Dori Caymmi, Joyce
> Moreno, Ricardo Vogt and Chico Pinheiro playing bodyless nylon string guitars.
> Chico plays the Frameworks. I don't recall which one Dori and Joyce used
> Ricardo toured with Elaine Elias playing a Yamaha silent. I have a feeling
> that they wouldn't play these in a concert that wasn't an airplane ride away,
> but they all sounded great.
>
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