[jazz_guitar] Washburn Oscar Schmidt OE40??

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charlaw2215

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Apr 5, 2007, 11:55:05 PM4/5/07
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Ok I just got this guitar I bought online and I'm not happy with it.
The neck is cracking apart and the strings are out of tune and I can't
seem to tune it right. For example, I tried tuning the B string. It
sounds like B, but when I played the "C" note on the first fret, it
still sounds like B!! What the heck...this is so not possible. I thus
have three questions:

1) Do I have to have this "professionally set-up"? If so, can you
explain what it means by "professionally setting up" this thing? Sorry
I'm a newbie here.

If not, what's wrong with this guitar?

2) Is Washburn Oscar Schmidt a shit*ty brand?

3) What's another alternative JAZZ-guitar (hollow body) that's not too
expensive and sounds nice and looks good???

Thanks!!


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>
> Ok I just got this guitar I bought online and I'm not happy with it.
> The neck is cracking apart and the strings are out of tune and I can't
> seem to tune it right. For example, I tried tuning the B string. It
> sounds like B, but when I played the "C" note on the first fret, it
> still sounds like B!! What the heck...this is so not possible. I thus
> have three questions:
>
> 1) Do I have to have this "professionally set-up"? If so, can you
> explain what it means by "professionally setting up" this thing? Sorry
> I'm a newbie here.
>
> If not, what's wrong with this guitar?
>
> 2) Is Washburn Oscar Schmidt a shit*ty brand?
>
> 3) What's another alternative JAZZ-guitar (hollow body) that's not too
> expensive and sounds nice and looks good???
>
> Thanks!!
>
HOw much are you willing to pay for a Jazz archtop style? I like the
Hofners and Hollow body Paul Reed Smith. I'm selling my Custom
MCkerrihan Fingerstyle its too big of body for me but its expensive
for the average player. I bought it at NAMM 98 its going up in value
so Its over $7000 . Some of the Epiphones are good as well as a Ibanez
Artcoresells for $399 also ck out musiciansfriend Belvedere Deluxe
with bigsby sell for $645 and the Gretch G100 sells for $599 . hope
this helps. Ebay ck used also

will_halligan

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Apr 6, 2007, 4:44:04 AM4/6/07
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> 3) What's another alternative JAZZ-guitar (hollow body) that's not
too
> expensive and sounds nice and looks good???
>
> Thanks!!
>

I have posted this before but here goes –

I have found that the original Hofner Verithin (from the 1960s,) has
a superb woody sound and costs a fraction of any current similar
guitar. Also, I have just discovered that the original Harmony semi
has a similar jazzy/mellow tone. I do not know of any new semi that
has that sound.

I bought one of the new Hofner Verythins when they were re-issued a
couple of years back and found the electrics to be very poor and
unreliable and the tone was not as good as a 335.

If you want a full-bodied jazz guitar I purchased a (1937,) Gibson
L50 for just £450 and a 1940s Harmony Jazz box for just £250. Both
really well made with solid top construction. Current production
guitars just don`t compare.

Check out ebay.

Will

Brad Little

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Apr 6, 2007, 7:54:53 AM4/6/07
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First >The neck is cracking apart<
Is the wood actually cracking, or is it separating at a joint? If the
former, it is probably due to some sort of trauma (dropped, knocked
over, used to play tennis with). If you bought it new, see:
http://www.oscarschmidt.com/product/warranty.htm#others

Second > I tried tuning the B string. It sounds like B, but when I

played the "C" note on the first fret, it still sounds like B!! What
the heck...this is so not possible<

Obviously it is possible since it is happening. Most likely, the
string is resting on the first fret, so that when you tune it "open"
you are actually tuning it on the first fret. Sight unseen, sounds
like a nut slot is too low.

Third >can you explain what it means by "professionally setting up"
this thing?<
This could be as simple as adjusting the bridge and nut for proper
string height, maybe adjusting the neck angle with the truss rod. If
the neck is cracked or splitting at a joint, this would (probably) be
an additional repair.

Fourth >Is Washburn Oscar Schmidt a shit*ty brand?< I've never heard
anything bad about them.

Finally, if you bought it new from an authorized dealer, contact them
and describe the problems. Likewise if you bought it used from a
reputable dealer. If you bought it used from an unscrupulous dealer
or an individual, hard to say. Before investing $4-500 on another
instrument, I would get an estimate for setup and repair and decide
if you'd rather spend it (most likely less than a new guitar) or
write off your expense so far and go for another instrument.

Brad

Jack Spitznagel

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Apr 6, 2007, 8:06:20 AM4/6/07
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Hi...

It sounds like you got a "B" stock box. Lower end Washburn products are
not highest quality but usually not that screwed up.

Return it. Do not take it to a local shop for set up! Buying from the
online distributors is a crap shoot. I have seen the finish and set up
of 2 new "A" stock guitars of same type and brand be of such different
quality that you would not think they were the same model. I don't know
anything about the Oscar Schmidt instruments.

I assume you are trying to stay at or around $500 max. Look at Ibanez
Artcore 75 and 105, the Epiphone copy of the ES 175, and there are
several more very much in that price range that are decent and can be
set up to play well. Don't expect long term value, but if the extra $800
to $1700 for a "name" archtop is out of reach for you.. there are lots
of choices.

charlaw2215 wrote:
> Ok I just got this guitar I bought online and I'm not happy with it.
> The neck is cracking apart and the strings are out of tune and I can't
> seem to tune it right. For example, I tried tuning the B string. It
> sounds like B, but when I played the "C" note on the first fret, it
> still sounds like B!! What the heck...this is so not possible. I thus
> have three questions:
>

Jack Spitznagel

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Apr 6, 2007, 8:20:00 AM4/6/07
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I just looked it up... The OE40 has been discontinued and the remaining
stock is being dumped by many of the worst outfits in the business
(consumer electronics ripoff shops). I hope you bought it new with
warranty. Musician Friends no longer carries it... the reviews are
pretty damning.
Jack

Chris Smart

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Apr 6, 2007, 10:22:13 AM4/6/07
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At 11:55 PM 4/5/2007, you wrote:

>Ok I just got this guitar I bought online and I'm not happy with it.

First, why did you buy a guitar online?
That said, I just bought a used instrument online and am happy with
it. The risks involved in buying a guitar that you haven't actually
picked up and played first are big though!

>The neck is cracking apart and the strings are out of tune and I can't

Sounds pretty bad...

By tune it right, do you mean with an accurate electronic tuner? If
so, where does the tuner say you are when you hold down the first
fret on the B string? Does it display C or at least close to it?

How new to guitar are you overall?

>have three questions:
>
>1) Do I have to have this "professionally set-up"? If so, can you
>explain what it means by "professionally setting up" this thing?

To me, professionally set up means someone takes the time to adjust
everything so the instrument is in optimal playing condition, and
they are pickier/more thorough than I am. I.e. they do all the
little fiddly things to it that I don't have the patience to do. :)

Basic set-up involves adjusting action, intonation and the amount
of bow or relief in the neck. However, if the neck of your guitar
is "cracking apart", your problems are certainly more severe than
that. How much did you pay for this guitar?

>2) Is Washburn Oscar Schmidt a shit*ty brand?

Uh, only you can decide that for yourself.

>3) What's another alternative JAZZ-guitar (hollow body) that's not too
>expensive and sounds nice and looks good???

Ok, define "not too expensive" for us. What's your budget?
Sounds nice ... sounds like what? Who do you listen to that you are
trying to emulate?

Check out Peerless, Aria, Epiphone, Samick, Ibanez ...

Chris


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Kent Kingery

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Apr 6, 2007, 9:08:43 AM4/6/07
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On 4/5/07, charlaw2215 <charl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 3) What's another alternative JAZZ-guitar (hollow body) that's not too
> expensive and sounds nice and looks good???

Someone else on this thread has already recommended the Ibanez Artcore
line. I have both an AFS75T and an AK95, and I love them both. I
first encountered the Artcore line several years ago when I purchased
the lowest end model (I think it was an AS73). I was astonished at
how well it played and how well it sounded, and I think I spent around
$250 for it. The quality of the fit and finish on that guitar and my
current pair were, quite simply, amazing for any guitar and especially
at the price I paid.

I bought the AFS75T and AK95 from a local dealer and paid under $400
for the AFS75T and around $450 for the AK95. I did have them both set
up by regular luthier. A set up is well worth the investment.

I can't justify the expense of a high-end jazz box because I'm just an
amatuer player, but I've had several friends who are much better
players than me make these guitars absolutely sing. Therefore, I know
the guitars are capable while I may not be myself. :-)

Kent

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Apr 6, 2007, 12:31:23 PM4/6/07
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Too bad about the poor instrument you got, hopefully you can get a refund, &
try again. In this price range, it's probably going to be a challenge to get
a real gem, unless you're either: really lucky, or, try a bunch of them and
find a great one. If you bought it new, I totally agree with whomever said you
should return it; if you can't, maybe a good repairman can fix it, but the
cost of that exercise is likely to negate the bargain you thought you'd gotten...

My recommendation to you is that you go to your local Guitar Center/Sam Ash,
etc, and try it before you buy it. Most of these places will match the price
of a Musician's Friend, or whatever, and you get the satisfaction of trying
before buying, and walking out of the store w/ it.

Anyway, good luck... I've never owned an Ibanez, but lots of people on this
forum speak highly of them. I have 3 newer (Korean) Epiphones, and they're
really good instruments; I'd highly recommend their new ES-175 copy, which is
probably a terrific guitar.

JV

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brianmayeux

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Apr 6, 2007, 3:55:31 PM4/6/07
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Oscar Schmidt's are horrible quality... They are the Squiers of
hollowbodies...

And no I am not a snob... My work-horse is an Epi ES-295 (no bigsby
and p100 pups)... That's right.... an epiphone...

I would recommend:

1) Epiphone: Zephyr Regent, Joe Pass, ES-295, ES-175(copy), or
Broadway. If want a professional instrument for a steal go on ebay
and look for one of these with upgraded pickups and a case.

2) Ibanez: I don't know all the models here. But these are
suprisingly good archtops. Their stock pickups are actually not that
bad. The pups are better than epiphone, I think. Again, try to find
one on ebay with upgraded pickups and a case. The only reason why I
don't like these guitars is because the string spread is about 1/32"
too close together for me. Not a big deal if you are not used to a
wide string spread.

-Brian

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thegoodwizard

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Apr 6, 2007, 5:47:09 PM4/6/07
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> > 2) Is Washburn Oscar Schmidt a shit*ty brand?
> >
>


I am pretty sure these are made in China now. The Koreans are much
better builders. But much production is switching to China because
it's so cheap there.

When at Namm, I couldn't find any Chinese jazz guitars that weren't
boat anchors (except Eastman, of course). They all 'look' like guitars
but the don't 'play' like a guitar. And I spent 2 days checking out
lots and lots of different manufacturers. There are some Chinese
guitars that are Ok, but because it is so cheap to build there, new
plants are springing up all over the place, and some haven't got a
clue how to build a playable guitar ....and some are so cheap, they
are total crap!

A guitar importer told be that the $150 - $199 (list) acoustics coming
from China cost him $32. Someone paid less than $50 for that Oscar
Schimdt to get it to the US I'll wager. Even in China, $50 doesn't
build much of a guitar.

How much did you pay and from where did you get this unfortunate
instrument.

;0)

Doc Dosco
http://www.jazzguitarzone.com

thegoodwizard

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Apr 6, 2007, 6:28:36 PM4/6/07
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Someone paid less than $50 for that Oscar
> Schimdt to get it to the US I'll wager. Even in China, $50 doesn't
> build much of a guitar.
>
>

List $399 I see. Ok... $75 cost....

;0)

Doc

Snobbish Arrogant

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Apr 6, 2007, 11:32:49 PM4/6/07
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i wouldn't buy an(other) Epiphone Joe Pass.(Emperor
II). because they don't sound so good. The Emperor
Regent (Emperor I) sounds great. last time i checked
one out at guitar center, it was around $800. Maybe
you would like a epiphone dot. or sheraton. they'll
run you from $400 up at Guitar Center. I like
them...maybe you would too.

Sean Dennis

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Apr 6, 2007, 10:46:47 PM4/6/07
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Washburn J4 - oval hole wode body hollowbody with
cutaway and humbucker. Before I bought my Godin Jazz
Multiac I had one and really liked it. Great action,
decent tone. Cheap. I replaced the cheezy W metal
tailpiece with an ebony one I got off ebay for $30.

It is a real guitar with a nice dark jazz tone.
Seriously. It is not popular because the players
looking at that price range are not looking for
guitars that look like a Howard Roberts. I got mine
used for $280.

Pic is here:

http://www.washburn.com/products/electrics/hollow/images/hb_j4.jpg



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Apr 7, 2007, 1:10:39 AM4/7/07
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Hi everyone thanks for all your thoughts on Washburn Oscar Schmidt OE40. I'm sending it back and the seller is paying for shipping, so I guess I'm will not cry tonight. In fact, I might think buying an Ibanez Artcore as many of you have suggested. Here are some options (all in the $300-$350 range):

- Ibanez AS73 Artcore Semi-Hollow Electric Guitar
http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBAAS73

- Ibanez AF75 Artcore Hollowbody Electric Guitar
http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBAAF75

- Ibanez AG75 Artcore Semi-Hollowbody Electric Guitar
http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBAAG75

Now I have a three part question as usual. I need your feedback:

1) I'm an aspiring musician aiming towards playing at jazz bars someday. Which one of these three guitars DO YOU THINK is the best for YOU (assuming you want to achieve the same goal as mine or have already achieved it)?

2) Do I need to have these guitars set up professionally?

3) This question has two parts, a) and b):
a) As I mentioned earlier I'm a newbie in the jazz-guitar world, so excuse my stupidity in asking this question. Of the above 3 three guitars, only AF75 says it is "Hollowbody," while the other two are all "Semi-Hollowbody." The pics look the same though in in terms of the guitar's thickness. So did they forget to label the AF75 as a "semi-hollowbody," or is it a "hollowbody" period?
b) What's the difference between a "hollowbody" and "semi-hollow body"?

Thanks y'all!

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brianmayeux

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1) AF75 is probably best
2) If you have spots on the fretboard that are buzzing when you
lower the action, you will have to adjust the truss rod... And if
you don't feel comfortable with doing that yourself, get a set up.
3) You don't want a semi-hollow. That has a wood block in the middle
of the guitar. A full hollow will give you that Jazz sound you want.

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Sharyl

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From: "Charles Law"
To: <jazz_...@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 10:10 PM
Subject: [jazz_guitar] Re: Washburn
Oscar Schmidt OE40??
Now I have a three part question as
usual. I need your feedback:
---------------------------------------------------

1) I'm an aspiring musician aiming
towards playing at jazz bars someday.
Which one of these three guitars DO YOU
THINK is the best for YOU (assuming you
want to achieve the same goal as mine or
have already achieved it)?
--------------------------------------------------
I've owned 5 Ibanez guitars and haven't
been disappointed in their quality yet.
They may be the best value for the
money.

I tried all them all and I bought the AS
73 and it is a better guitar in many
ways than the epiphone sheridan (similar
price range)
It has a solid block of wood down the
center and no tailpiece and a fixed
bridge with tune-o-matic adjusters..
This gives it a great deal of sustain
and a high resistance to feedback.
It can also be used as a rocker and a
blues axe I've used it with super
slinkys and 13-52 flatwounds for Jazz
it is also heavier than the other 2 you
mention
the other guitars you mention have
deeper bodies. They have a more woody
tone and more volume acoustically. they
also have floating bridges that can be
moved and can fall of if you remove the
strings all at once
If you like to play high on the neck the
as-73 has an advantage.
musicians friend has lots of reviews on
these guitars.

b) What's the difference between
a "hollowbody" and "semi-hollow body"?

The as-73 is semi hollow
Here is the ibanez site.
http://ibanez.com/hollow/
http://ibanez.com/hollow/series.aspx?s=af
http://ibanez.com/hollow/series.aspx?s=as
http://ibanez.com/hollow/series.aspx?s=ag
this one looks nice too it is a newer
model
http://ibanez.com/hollow/guitar.aspx?m=AGS83B


The problem with trying guitars at
guitar center is the "Floating bridge"
guitars they have on display have a
piece of soft plastic between the bridge
and the tailpiece which kills the sound
transference. you have to convince them
to remove it or buy it, remove it at
home then take it back
If you don't have access to a guitar
center and have to buy by mail order
it's harder. I've done both. My
epiphone byrdland was purchased from
musicians friend as there were none in
stock in the phoenix area.

If you can go to a store then here is
what i suggest.
first find the amp you are going to use.
set the tone controls all in the middle.
then try the guitars with the pickup
switch set to the neck pickup only with
the tone control on that pickup set to 3
or 4 and the volume around 8.
Then get the one that has the most
"Punch" also see how EVEN the volume is
at all positions. if it isn't too
extreme, you can later adjust the poles
on the pickup to compensate for your
strings and your playing style. ( i
bought an epiphone Joe Pass and it
sounded nice acoustically but overall it
was too "bassy" when amplified, so it
got returned) I tried 4 AS-73s and the
one i got had the loudest, punchiest
pickup.
-----------------------------------------------------


2) Do I need to have these guitars set
up professionally?

My as-73 was 95% good right out of the
box. I can adjust the neck and the
bridge for intonation and height. I
suggest you learn to do this if you are
at all mechanically inclined.
------------------------------------------------------
I never had a pro set it up before these
last 2 years because i can afford it but
having a pro set it up. I find a good
fret job (about $90) to be worth the
money. I play with a Wegen 3.5mm gypsy
jazz pick and a very light touch because
i have a deformed left hand so i have a
neck with no relief (straight) and a low
action.

Sharyl

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1) I think any of the 3 guitars will work. If you think you may end up in
some louder situations, the semi-hollow guitar will work better. It has wood
block under the bridge which helps reduce feedback. I've played lots of jazz in
lots of bars with an Epi Sheraton II, and also with a Tele, so the guitar is
important, but not too much so, imo. Just curious, what are you playing now???

2) Having a good guitar tech is a must; he or she can take an instrument that
plays well, and make it play and sound great. Even high-end guitars benefit
from a good set-up. My recommendation is to find a good tech in your area, &
have 'em take a look at the guitar. I guarantee you will feel and even
perhaps hear a noticeable difference. I'm sure people on this list can steer you
towards a tech in your area.

3) Like I mentioned in #1, the semi-hollow instruments tend to be thinner
overall, and they usually have a wood block under the bridge (the size/length of
this block varies). This results in less vibration thus less of a tendency to
feedback, but also allows some warmth in the sound. A "best of 2 worlds"
kind of thing. Lots of good jazz music has been made on semi-hollow guitars...

Cheers,
JV

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Jim Mings

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Apr 7, 2007, 2:14:23 PM4/7/07
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You sound lovely Sharyl! I am so glad you sent us to your music.
Sometimes I wonder if you are playing 2 guitars at once. Can you teach
me to do that? You are saying something that needs to be said and you
make sense saying it. My humble opinion is that when you get the eighth
note deal happening just a little better you (altho your swing feel
already sounds a little like Johnny Smith and that's pretty cool) will
be a guitarist to reckon with.
Thanks for communicating,
Jim

Sharyl

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From: "Jim Mings" <jmings2003To: Sent:
Saturday, April 07, 2007 11:14 AM
Subject: [jazz_guitar] Re: Washburn

Oscar Schmidt OE40?? now ibanez artcore
now Sharyl


< SNIP>My humble opinion is that when

you get the eighth
note deal happening just a little better
you (altho your swing feel
already sounds a little like Johnny

Smith and that's pretty cool)<SNIP>

Thank you Jim,
I'm glad you liked it in spite of BIAB.
My even 8th notes are anything but.
Thanks for noticing. (HA)
i don't feel that the recordings are
really jazz since i played
the same solo a zillion times and then
tweaked it.
My big excuse is i recorded the tunes
because I need a demo cd to get work.

If I got so much as a string buzz I'd go
back and start over.
I'll try to be freer on the next one.

The exception was "Night and Day" which
was one take.

I grew up listening to Johnny Smith.
My favorite Johnny Smith recording is a
roost LP with Django, little girl blue
and wait 'till you see her.
On Django, when he goes from playing the
head legato and then starts the solo -
that for me, epitomizes the jazz feel I
like. Someone recently gave me some
Johnny Smith records that had the paper
from the sleeve embedded in the grooves
I washed them with soap and water etc.
and now have some good mp3's.
Everytime i listen to him i wanna cut my
hand off.

Other than Django and Johnny I
intentionally never listened to Jazz
Guitarists until recently via U tube and
this group.

I did try the Gypsy guitar thing but i
stunk at it.

I did play with Emily Remler once in
Venice a long time ago I still have the
cassette One of the tunes we played was
"Emily".
I'm so sorry to find out she passed away
so young.

I listened to many other Jazz players
like Bill Evens with Scott Lafaro, Mcoy
Tyner - Keith Jarett.
I once worked out the piano part to
Captain Marvel from the record I believe
it was from Chick Korea.
Miles, Trane, Parker all the
giants...................

I'm sort of musically illiterate. I do
know where the notes are by name but I'm
just learning to sight read.
I'm an ear player who uses chord shapes,
maj min dim and aug scales and that's
it.
After I learned a blues scale.

I had one guitar lesson from a guitar
teacher in California named Ted Greene
He had a beautiful Blonde Gibson Stereo
and showed me some Hendricks and B.B
king licks and of course i had to get a
stereo
I was able to spell enough classical to
learn some pieces that Segovia had
recorded and his fingerings and form.

Only in the last year have I started
playing without looking at my hands and
just letting go.

I listen a lot to the big bands and Fred
Astair.

I started as a lead guitar player in a
blues band in 1969 on an es-345 through
a fender super reverb that had
everything set on 10.
Then top-40, then "free jazz" in the
1970's which was so horrible i couldn't
figure out why we had an audience. then
cajun, zydeco. I play a lot with a
bunch of traditonal jazz/dixieland
people.
As junky as i play - people like it and
tonight i'm playing as a leader for the
first time. I play a solo gig at a pizza
place and tonight it becomes a trio.
I love my Byrdland (I notice you have
one too Witchcraft is great) I have
short, stubby fingers and a broken,
deformed hand (the reason I started
playing) so the short scale just made
everything fit but i miss the easy
access to the top frets.
I just saw video of Tal Farlow and am
going to try to use my pulgar as a
fretting mechanism against everything i
know about form.

I want to buy this Johnny Smith
collection.
http://www.mosaicrecords.com/discography.asp?number=216-MD-CD

I gotta learn some tunes for tonight
'cause I gotta play what the bass player
can play.
What I don't know can fill an
enclycopedia or two. and it's starting
to sound like I'm in therapy.

ciao
sharyl

Terry Petty

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Apr 7, 2007, 10:38:17 PM4/7/07
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I must have missed what Mings was musing about.

Sharyl, can you share a link to what he heard?

Terry


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Jim Mings

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Apr 8, 2007, 5:15:30 AM4/8/07
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Terry,
Sharyl can be found at
http://www.myspace.com/sharylsmithguitarist
Jim

Jim Mings

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Apr 8, 2007, 11:12:38 AM4/8/07
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Dear Sharyl,
I hope you are well this gorgeous Sunday morning! And, I hope your
gig went just great! However you made up your parts, the guitar
playing is sweet, girl. Don't worry at all bout BIAB. You sound
terrific with it. I hope you get lots of play from the recording. On
the basis of that sound you deserve to be working all the time. If
you will excuse me for saying this, you write with such charming
innocence in the sentences below.
Please stay in touch. It would be a lot of fun for me if we could
play some guitar together sometime.
Jim


....did play with Emily Remler once in

Venice a long time ago I still have the
cassette One of the tunes we played was "Emily".
I'm so sorry to find out she passed away so young.

I had one guitar lesson from a guitar

teacher in California named Ted Greene

He had a beautiful Blond Gibson Stereo

and showed me some Hendricks and B.B
king licks and of course i had to get a
stereo

Ronald Murray

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Apr 8, 2007, 9:23:31 AM4/8/07
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Sharyl, you have n interesting story, for sure. If yu can, buy the
Mosaic Johnny Smith collection, it's really excellent, and will keep
you busy learning tunes for years. Also, if you can find them, the
later three records he did for Verve are very well-recorded and sound
great.

Ron Murray

sheryl bailey

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Apr 9, 2007, 8:10:17 AM4/9/07
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Jim:

I'm a bit confused about the BIAB reference
here?...

s


--- Jim Mings <jming...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear Sharyl,
> I hope you are well this gorgeous Sunday morning!
> And, I hope your
> gig went just great! However you made up your parts,
> the guitar
> playing is sweet, girl. Don't worry at all bout
> BIAB. You sound

> terrific with it. [snip]

Ronald Murray

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Apr 9, 2007, 11:05:04 AM4/9/07
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Band In A Box

On Apr 9, 2007, at 9:10 AM, sheryl bailey wrote:

> Jim:
>
> I'm a bit confused about the BIAB reference
> here?...
>
> s
> --- Jim Mings <jming...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Sharyl,
> > I hope you are well this gorgeous Sunday morning!
> > And, I hope your
> > gig went just great! However you made up your parts,
> > the guitar
> > playing is sweet, girl. Don't worry at all bout
> > BIAB. You sound
>
>

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Sharyl

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Apr 9, 2007, 10:50:21 AM4/9/07
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Sheryl Bailey this is Sharyl Smith.
He was talking about me and he spelled my name right.
http://www.myspace.com/sharylsmithguitarist

Peace,
Sharyl

jazz...@aol.com

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Apr 9, 2007, 5:19:27 PM4/9/07
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Sharyl, you sound great to me. very tasteful and your sound has a maturity
that resembles the many barney kessel, johnny smith and Van Eps recordings I
have listened to over the years.
We need more female
players like you at the YJGG.
Best to all,
John Earl
Saint Louis, Mo.

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Sharyl

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Apr 9, 2007, 7:24:23 PM4/9/07
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Thank you sir,
I am humbled by the tone comparison.
My ears tell me i'll never be as good a player as any of
them.
I should sound pretty mature by now as i'm almost 60.
It's not just a job anymore, It's an obsession.
Peace,
Sharyl
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:19 PM
Subject: [jazz_guitar] Re: now Sharyl


........a maturity


that resembles the many barney kessel, johnny smith and Van
Eps recordings I

have listened to over the years..........

John Earl
Saint Louis, Mo.

John Amato

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Apr 9, 2007, 11:50:40 PM4/9/07
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Hey Sharyl,

Nice playing "On the Steet ..... "

--- Sharyl <kiko...@att.net> wrote:


John Amato
Isaiah 55:11



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Apr 10, 2007, 1:36:13 AM4/10/07
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I'll second John on that, really good playing !! I like what I hear...

John Amato <jama...@yahoo.com> wrote: Hey Sharyl,

Nice playing "On the Steet ..... "

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Brian Kelly

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Apr 10, 2007, 9:47:48 AM4/10/07
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Count me in as well. Very musical without being unnecessarily flashy! Keep it up.

Brian Kelly

sheryl bailey

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Apr 12, 2007, 6:05:37 PM4/12/07
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oops - I'm so used to people not know how to spell my
name, but you must have it worse with that "a" in
there --- keep the tunes rollin..

peace:
sheryl

--- Sharyl <kiko...@att.net> wrote:

> Sheryl Bailey this is Sharyl Smith.
> He was talking about me and he spelled my name
> right.
> http://www.myspace.com/sharylsmithguitarist
>
> Peace,
> Sharyl

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