Apology from Derian

[Derian Echeverri]

Greetings,

 

Dear President of JCI South Africa,

 

Please, accept my sincere apologies for all the mess I created.

 

I commit myself with you to improve JCI in South Africa and be better!

 

Best regards,

 

Derian ECHEVERRI
Agronomist Engineer, MSc. student of Plant Pathology www.fabinet.up.ac.za
2008 General Legal Council of JCI Tshwane www.jci.cc/tshwane

Secretary of the Embassy of Colombia to South Africa
Mobile: +27(0)721441258, Tel: +27(0)124205821, Fax: +27(0)124203960
E-mail: derian.e...@fabi.up.ac.za, deriane...@embassyofcolombia.co.za
Alternative E-mail: deriane...@yahoo.com.mx, deriane...@hotmail.com
Address: 74 Lunnon Road, Forestry and Agricultural Biotechnology Institute (FABI)
University of Pretoria, Pretoria 0002, South Africa

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "phosane mngqibisa" <pho...@gmail.com>

To: "Prince Skosana" <pri...@nunucom.co.za>

Cc: "Derian Echeverri" <derian.e...@fabi.up.ac.za>; "Tshepo Thlaku" <thl...@gmail.com>; "Tebogo Machethe" <tebogo....@gmail.com>; <Dla...@health.gov.za>; "Ali Rodolo" <a...@kakanyo.co.za>

Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:43 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: REMINDER: PLEASE DIARISE AND RSVP IF YOU HAVE NOT YET DONE SO

> EVP,
> May you kindly sms me Derian's no. May I remind JCI members that as
> young leaders in our different societies, we are ecpected at all times
> to uphold the conduct of professionalism. Can you all stop sending
> each other emails that tend to undermine our objectives.
>
> Thanks, phosane
>
> On 3/18/08, Prince Skosana <pri...@nunucom.co.za> wrote:
>>
>> Mr President,
>>
>> Through you please can I request clarity from Tshwane GLC Derian who exactly he refers to by "filters" when he say I quote "The filters were not strong to offer a solution to the matter"?
>>
>> Regards,
>> EVP
>>
>>
>> Derian Echeverri wrote:
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Derian Echeverri
>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: REMINDER: PLEASE DIARISE AND RSVP IF YOU HAVE NOT YET DONE SO
>>
>>
>> Dear JCI South Africa President Phosane Mngqibisa,
>>
>> It is an honor for me that you communicate with me directly.
>>
>> I would like to emphazize my high level of commitment with JCI and it transcends the sovereignity of nations.
>>
>> I really admire you because you are showing commitment in trying to solve issues. It means, you are concerned and positively acting in the solution.
>>
>> I submmit myself to the rigor of the Constitution of JCI, JCI South Africa and JCI Tshwane as I am doing since I took oath in 2002 in Colombia, and I expect to be judged by them.
>>
>> I want to apologize to you because this issue supposed not to reach you as the President of JCI South Africa. The filters were not strong to offer a solution to the matter. And, I am glad that you sent a committed officer (Tshepo Thlaku: Vice-President of JCI South Africa) to face the situation of the meeting held in Midrand where there was a meeting offered to give information to people who wanted to know more about JCI and how to become members.
>>
>> Please, understand my position of being supportive to our Senator and Member of JCI, Gert Visser, and it never was my position to sign any document on behalf of JCI South Africa nor replace the authority of any member of your board in charge of giving legal status to any chapter because that is not in my capacity.
>>
>> I am so sorry, that sometimes crisis are necessary to move people, and sometimes it has to be me that sacrifices my name for the good of JCI in South Africa. I commit myself that from now on consultations are going to be made with people that knows about JCI and they will guide me more on how to approach issues in a more diplomatic way and, as the VP of JCI South Africa Tshepo Thlaku suggested, I will be more cautious in sending emails cc'ed to unneccesary members to avoid confusions and use the right channels.
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Derian Echeverri
>> Agronomist Engineer, MSc. student of Plant Pathology www.fabinet.up.ac.za
>> 2008 General Legal Council of JCI Tshwane www.jci.cc/tshwane
>> Mobile: +27(0)721441258, Tel: +27(0)124205821, Fax: +27(0)124203960
>> E-mail: derian.e...@fabi.up.ac.za
>> Alternative E-mail: deriane...@yahoo.com.mx, deriane...@hotmail.com
>> Address: 74 Lunnon Road, Forestry and Agricultural Biotechnology Institute (FABI)
>> University of Pretoria, Pretoria 0002, South Africa
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: phosane mngqibisa
>> To: Bonakele Dlamini
>> Cc: derian.e...@fabi.up.ac.za ; Jay-Cee...@googlegroups.com ; a...@kakanyo.co.za ; Prince
>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: REMINDER: PLEASE DIARISE AND RSVP IF YOU HAVE NOT YET DONE SO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/08, phosane mngqibisa <pho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Derian,
>> >
>> > May I kindly appeal to you to refrain from engaging into such un-JCI South Africa behaviour and I am making a ruling on this matter that it is only the NOM that has the authority to communicate in writing with potential LOM's, unless if you are sunctioned by the NOM to do so. Please let's refrain from mind gymnastics, the matter has been laid to rest.
>> >
>> > phosane
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 3/11/08, Bonakele Dlamini <Dla...@health.gov.za> wrote:
>> > > Dear Derian
>> > >
>> > > With due respect, I dont have energy to enter into a debate with you or
>> > > a protocol class.
>> > >
>> > > Good leaders are those who allow themselves to be led.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >>> derian.e...@fabi.up.ac.za 2008/03/11 07:18 AM >>>
>> > > Dear Mabel (Secretary General of JCI South Africa),
>> > >
>> > > For the purpose of protocols sake, would you please advise me on the
>> > > issue of repercussions according to the constitution within JCI and JCI
>> > > South Africa? It would be nice to know what to be in line is.
>> > >
>> > > Resuscitation of LOMs and ex-members are part of my responsibility as a
>> > > member of JCI, It is more money for JCI South Africa and JCI not for me!
>> > > What is not is my responsibility is to sign any documents on behalf of
>> > > JCI South Africa which is the authority to carry on the procedures to
>> > > make it have legal status within the JCI world.
>> > >
>> > > Wherever a person or group are interested in JCI, I will be there to
>> > > assist with the best of my capabilities!
>> > >
>> > > And according to the Creed of JCI "... brotherhood of man transcends
>> > > the sovereignty of nations..." and JCI Mission "To contribute to the
>> > > advancement of the global community by providing the opportunity for
>> > > young people to develop the leadership skills, social responsibility,
>> > > entrepreneurship and fellowship necessary to create positive change" I
>> > > am kind of in line!
>> > >
>> > > When you refer to me, please refer it to General Legal Council of JCI
>> > > Tshwane because this is my position. For example, your position is not
>> > > National Secretary General, it is Secretary General of JCI South Africa.
>> > > National could refer to the country South Africa which is not your
>> > > position.
>> > >
>> > > Kind regards,
>> > >
>> > > Derian Echeverri
>> > > Agronomist Engineer, MSc. student of Plant Pathology
>> > > www.fabinet.up.ac.za
>> > > 2008 General Legal Council of JCI Tshwane www.jci.cc/tshwane
>> > > Mobile: +27(0)721441258, Tel: +27(0)124205821, Fax: +27(0)124203960
>> > > E-mail: derian.e...@fabi.up.ac.za
>> > > Alternative E-mail: deriane...@yahoo.com.mx,
>> > > deriane...@hotmail.com
>> > > Address: 74 Lunnon Road, Forestry and Agricultural Biotechnology
>> > > Institute (FABI)
>> > > University of Pretoria, Pretoria 0002, South Africa
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Bonakele Dlamini" <Dla...@health.gov.za>
>> > > To: <tebogo....@gmail.com>; <Jay-Cee...@googlegroups.com>
>> > > Cc: <pho...@gmail.com>; <Ger...@jm.co.za>; <a...@kakanyo.co.za>;
>> > > <atre...@lawactive.co.za>; "Prince" <pri...@nunucom.co.za>; "Mabel
>> > > Dlamini" <mabeld...@yahoo.com>
>> > > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:34 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: REMINDER: PLEASE DIARISE AND RSVP IF YOU HAVE NOT YET DONE
>> > > SO
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Dear Tshwane LOM GLC
>> > > >
>> > > > Your email to Andre has reference.
>> > > >
>> > > > Allow me to caution you that you are totally out of line. You are a
>> > > LOM
>> > > > General Legal Counsel, therefore, you have no scope to meddle in NOM
>> > > or
>> > > > other LOM or potential LOM issues.
>> > > >
>> > > > At the Tshwane strategic planning session we (NOM EVP and myself)
>> > > > appealed to members not to RSVP for the Centurion event until a
>> > > decision
>> > > > is taken by the NOM. A specific question was asked whether members
>> > > can
>> > > > attend in their personal capacity and our response was NO.
>> > > >
>> > > > The establishment of new LOMs and resuscitation of old LOMs is the
>> > > > responsibility of the NOM EVP.
>> > > >
>> > > > Please refrain from such behavior in future as it will have serious
>> > > > repercussions.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards
>> > > >
>> > > > National General Secretary
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >>>> tebogo....@gmail.com 2008/03/10 12:26 PM >>>
>> > > > Dear Derian,
>> > > >
>> > > > The issues that you are addressing are completely outside your scope
>> > > > and
>> > > > would like to urge you to refrain from addressing them immediately.
>> > > > This is
>> > > > a completely NOM matter and should be addressed as such at the
>> > > capacity
>> > > > of
>> > > > the NOM. As the President of JCI Tshwane and a NOM Board member, I
>> > > > would
>> > > > like to advice you that there is already a NOM officer who has been
>> > > > assigned
>> > > > to dealing with this issue and would like to encourage members of
>> > > the
>> > > > LOM to
>> > > > respect the leadership of the NOM.
>> > > >
>> > > > The position of the NOM still takes precedence and should be
>> > > respected
>> > > > as
>> > > > such. As a member of JCI Tshwane, I would like to further encourage
>> > > you
>> > > > to
>> > > > follow and respect the JCI protocol.
>> > > >
>> > > > With Kind Regards
>> > > > Tebogo Machethe
>> > > > Junior Chamber International Tshwane
>> > > > 2008 Chapter President
>> > > > Tel:+2712 342 1774
>> > > > Fax:+2712 342 3027
>> > > > Cell:+2772 273 9440
>> > > >
>> > > > cc'd the National Secretary General
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Derian Echeverri <
>> > > > derian.e...@fabi.up.ac.za> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >>  Dear Andre,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I will attend your event.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I will be coming with at least two people more.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> You must consider several points, and as an advise, follow them.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> First: You are using the name of JCI and you are not a legal
>> > > chapter
>> > > > yet.
>> > > >> There is a procedure to follow with JCI South Africa to be able to
>> > > > call upon
>> > > >> meetings with the name of JCI included. Then, you need to get the
>> > > > legal
>> > > >> status for your chapter as soon as possible.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Second: I will support you as much as I can and that is why I am
>> > > > attending
>> > > >> your event. In my opinion if you are trying to reactivate JCI in
>> > > > Centurion
>> > > >> is more than welcome. I will be there to check if you are already
>> > > > complying
>> > > >> with the requirements of becoming a chapter. For now, I tell you,
>> > > >> congratulations for being proactive.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Third: I recognize the efforts of my Senator in JCI Gert Visser,
>> > > and
>> > > > my
>> > > >> presence in your meeting will be mostly to support him in assisting
>> > > > you to
>> > > >> reactivate JCI in Centurion.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> JCI is my family and if there are people interested in join us...
>> > > I,
>> > > > as a
>> > > >> member of JCI, Prime Trainer, and professional will assist as much
>> > > as
>> > > > I can.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I hope the other members of JCI in South Africa and especially from
>> > > > JCI
>> > > >> Tshwane understand the importance of supporting the creation or
>> > > > reactivation
>> > > >> of new chapters all over South Africa. As we discussed at the Area
>> > > >> Conference A in Johannesburg last year. JCI is needed urgently in
>> > > > South
>> > > >> Africa. We are already assisting other chapters in Mozambique,
>> > > Joburg
>> > > > and
>> > > >> others that at the moment do ot remember. So, count on me.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> To everyone, it is in your personal capacity to support or neglect
>> > > > to
>> > > >> improve your country, South Africa. We need more committed leaders
>> > > > and
>> > > >> entrepreneurs!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Kind regards,
>> > > >>
>> > > >>  Derian Echeverri
>> > > >> Agronomist Engineer, MSc. student of Plant Pathology
>> > > > www.fabinet.up.ac.za
>> > > >> 2008 General Legal Council of JCI Tshwane www.jci.cc/tshwane
>> > > >> Mobile: +27(0)721441258, Tel: +27(0)124205821, Fax: +27(0)124203960
>> > > >> E-mail: derian.e...@fabi.up.ac.za
>> > > >> Alternative E-mail: deriane...@yahoo.com.mx,
>> > > >> deriane...@hotmail.com
>> > > >> Address: 74 Lunnon Road, Forestry and Agricultural Biotechnology
>> > > > Institute
>> > > >> (FABI)
>> > > >> University of Pretoria, Pretoria 0002, South Africa
>> > > >>
>> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> *From:* Andre Tredoux <atre...@lawactive.co.za>
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>> > > teb...@hahn.co.za
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>> > > > deriane...@yahoo.com.mx ;
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>> > > > karabe...@yahoo.co.uk ;
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>> > > > ;
>> > > >> a...@kakanyo.co.za ; geo...@mc.co.za ; mduduz...@gmail.com ;
>> > > >> mabeld...@yahoo.com
>> > > >> *Cc:* Gert Visser <Ger...@jm.co.za>
>> > > >> *Sent:* Monday, March 03, 2008 2:05 PM
>> > > >> *Subject:* FW: REMINDER: PLEASE DIARISE AND RSVP IF YOU HAVE NOT
>> > > YET
>> > > > DONE
>> > > >> SO
>> > > >>
>> > > >>  *You are hereby cordially invited to attend a JCI Centurion
>> > > > Business
>> > > >> event sponsored by Law Credit (Pty) Ltd.*
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> *The event is scheduled for 12 March 2008.  Time: 18h15 for 18h45*
>> > > >>
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>> > > >>
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>> > > >>
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>> > > >>
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>> > > >>
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>> > > >>
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>> > > >>
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>> > > >>
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