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oppose socialist healthcare, unless you're a criminal / addict / expat abroad ( part 2 )
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Lim PE
Apr 29, 2003, 12:09:51 AM4/29/03
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4] Causes wage disputes : the extra costs to employers ( e.g. 11% of gross wage
is employers' share ) & employees ( e.g. 9% of gross wage is employees'
share ) make wage negotiations even more difficult. Employees must demand
e.g. 8% rise in gross wages so net wages can let employees make ends meet,
but employers cannot offer e.g. >5% because of their burden to fund the NHS.
E.g. in 1984 UK working-class employees could get only 61% of any rise in
gross wage, after deduction of 30% income tax ( to fund massive welfare ) &
9% NI (national insurance). This is why countries with massive welfare have
many prolonged wage disputes, never seen in msia : msians new in UK will be
amazed by the frequency of strikes there, nearly every 2 months a new strike
appears, every group of labour ( electricity workers, bus/ train drivers, nurses
) take turn to strike : when their train drivers strike, ½ of a city's workers
cannot get to work to earn the wages which bear the taxes which provide the
welfare benefits incl dole which encouraged this strike in the 1st place,
because no striker needs to worry about losing his / her job. NI will rise
higher soon, because old people live longer & longer.
An increase to wage bills & disputes in msia will make msia less attractive to
MNCs i.e. unemploymnt will rise, market wages will drop.
5] Without a worry for hospital bills, UK's long-term unemployed* ( whole
families live on welfare, & hold on to subsidized housing by refusing to
move to other towns to take up jobs ) have 1 fewer reason to find jobs.
This is 1 reason why countries with massive welfare ( Germany, France,
Australia too ) have big differences in regional unemploymnt : e.g. in 1984
UK's north east's unemploymnt was 15%, northern Ireland's - 25%, south east
's - only 5% ( most claimants are unemployable, or welfare spongers ) : ½ the
petrol stations in south-east could not find enough labour to do 24hr business
, still both these employers & people who go where jobs/ business are must
pay very high taxes to house & feed these spongers*.
6] Patients who need pay nothing : just like UK's * & brits who work outside
UK pay no NI, msians who work abroad ( e.g. in S'pore ) will ( esp after they
retire ) get free service in msia. Illegal immigrants too can use fake/ hired
ICs, or bribe to get free service, already indons hire bumis to pose as indons'
babies' fathers, to get msia citizenship. Criminals ( muggers, robbers, pick-
pockets, jaga-keretas, extortionists, loan sharks, kidnappers, heroin pushers,
burglars, swindlers ) have no wages, so will all get free service @ their
victims' expense !
Patients who live on dividends / interest / rent / pensions i.e. no wages /
profit will pay nothing too. In mid 10-00, BBC news
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/video/news169.ram said 1 hospital in UK is
already overwhelmed by its # of patients.
7] Causes crime : the more statutory deductions are forced on honest (gross)
wages, the less attractive are honest (net) wages, thus making money via
crime is more attractive than honest wages. Msia's gross wages are far
behind developed countries', yet MMA's dr.k wants the same burden forced
on gross wages in msia, thus this extra burden to fund NHS in msia will
certainly cause crime.
The more levies (employers' share) are forced on gross wages, the lower are
gross wages (as a fraction of total wage bills) employers can offer employees
, thus the end result is the same as above.
Evidences [i] ½ of UK shops have been robbed
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1530000/video/_1530126_crime06_carslaw_vi.ram
[ii] Paris ( in a high tax country )'s crime rate beats US ( lower tax country )
's www.foxnews.com/world/091400/french_crime.sml [iii] In 2-02, BBC
said London's street crime is 6x New York's. If you want NHS or massive
welfare, then don't complain of crime ( a by-product of what you want ).
8) Private hospitals' users lose out : I live near & use a private hospital, not GH
which is >3 mile from me, yet I will be forced to pay for NHS, efficiency of
which will be dubious e.g. 1 can get blood with HIV transfused into 1, as
happened in Kedah. If private hospitals can claim from NHS, then private
hospitals will be just like the dentist who conned me i.e. can prescribe
unnecessary but elaborate & even wrong treatments, & since 1 bears only a
small part of total cost, 1 can be easily conned into an unnecessary treatment
without getting a 2nd opinion which 1 would get if asked to bear the whole
cost : this is how a free mkt works better than NHS.
3 e.g. of NHS are
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_1233000/1233395stm
www.itn.co.uk/news/20010503/britain/02nhs.shtml
www.itn.co.uk/news/20010326/britian/02breast.shtml
Socialism stinks, free market is best.
is employers' share ) & employees ( e.g. 9% of gross wage is employees'
share ) make wage negotiations even more difficult. Employees must demand
e.g. 8% rise in gross wages so net wages can let employees make ends meet,
but employers cannot offer e.g. >5% because of their burden to fund the NHS.
E.g. in 1984 UK working-class employees could get only 61% of any rise in
gross wage, after deduction of 30% income tax ( to fund massive welfare ) &
9% NI (national insurance). This is why countries with massive welfare have
many prolonged wage disputes, never seen in msia : msians new in UK will be
amazed by the frequency of strikes there, nearly every 2 months a new strike
appears, every group of labour ( electricity workers, bus/ train drivers, nurses
) take turn to strike : when their train drivers strike, ½ of a city's workers
cannot get to work to earn the wages which bear the taxes which provide the
welfare benefits incl dole which encouraged this strike in the 1st place,
because no striker needs to worry about losing his / her job. NI will rise
higher soon, because old people live longer & longer.
An increase to wage bills & disputes in msia will make msia less attractive to
MNCs i.e. unemploymnt will rise, market wages will drop.
5] Without a worry for hospital bills, UK's long-term unemployed* ( whole
families live on welfare, & hold on to subsidized housing by refusing to
move to other towns to take up jobs ) have 1 fewer reason to find jobs.
This is 1 reason why countries with massive welfare ( Germany, France,
Australia too ) have big differences in regional unemploymnt : e.g. in 1984
UK's north east's unemploymnt was 15%, northern Ireland's - 25%, south east
's - only 5% ( most claimants are unemployable, or welfare spongers ) : ½ the
petrol stations in south-east could not find enough labour to do 24hr business
, still both these employers & people who go where jobs/ business are must
pay very high taxes to house & feed these spongers*.
6] Patients who need pay nothing : just like UK's * & brits who work outside
UK pay no NI, msians who work abroad ( e.g. in S'pore ) will ( esp after they
retire ) get free service in msia. Illegal immigrants too can use fake/ hired
ICs, or bribe to get free service, already indons hire bumis to pose as indons'
babies' fathers, to get msia citizenship. Criminals ( muggers, robbers, pick-
pockets, jaga-keretas, extortionists, loan sharks, kidnappers, heroin pushers,
burglars, swindlers ) have no wages, so will all get free service @ their
victims' expense !
Patients who live on dividends / interest / rent / pensions i.e. no wages /
profit will pay nothing too. In mid 10-00, BBC news
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/video/news169.ram said 1 hospital in UK is
already overwhelmed by its # of patients.
7] Causes crime : the more statutory deductions are forced on honest (gross)
wages, the less attractive are honest (net) wages, thus making money via
crime is more attractive than honest wages. Msia's gross wages are far
behind developed countries', yet MMA's dr.k wants the same burden forced
on gross wages in msia, thus this extra burden to fund NHS in msia will
certainly cause crime.
The more levies (employers' share) are forced on gross wages, the lower are
gross wages (as a fraction of total wage bills) employers can offer employees
, thus the end result is the same as above.
Evidences [i] ½ of UK shops have been robbed
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1530000/video/_1530126_crime06_carslaw_vi.ram
[ii] Paris ( in a high tax country )'s crime rate beats US ( lower tax country )
's www.foxnews.com/world/091400/french_crime.sml [iii] In 2-02, BBC
said London's street crime is 6x New York's. If you want NHS or massive
welfare, then don't complain of crime ( a by-product of what you want ).
8) Private hospitals' users lose out : I live near & use a private hospital, not GH
which is >3 mile from me, yet I will be forced to pay for NHS, efficiency of
which will be dubious e.g. 1 can get blood with HIV transfused into 1, as
happened in Kedah. If private hospitals can claim from NHS, then private
hospitals will be just like the dentist who conned me i.e. can prescribe
unnecessary but elaborate & even wrong treatments, & since 1 bears only a
small part of total cost, 1 can be easily conned into an unnecessary treatment
without getting a 2nd opinion which 1 would get if asked to bear the whole
cost : this is how a free mkt works better than NHS.
3 e.g. of NHS are
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_1233000/1233395stm
www.itn.co.uk/news/20010503/britain/02nhs.shtml
www.itn.co.uk/news/20010326/britian/02breast.shtml
Socialism stinks, free market is best.
Lim PE
Apr 29, 2003, 9:01:47 AM4/29/03
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UK's National Health Service has many flaws.
1] Encourages addiction e.g. of alcohol, nicotine, solvents, heroin : every
addict knows that when his/her resultant sicknesses appear, s/he can get free
repair from NHS entirely @ others' expense.
E.g. @ south of London's Balham train station, every thursday morning after
getting their dole from a post office, alcoholics buy liquor from liquor shops
then sit on a public bench outside & drink until their corneas & skin turn dark
red : when their kidneys / hearts fail, NHS must supply free dialysis / bypass,
now ¼ of UK NHS users are alcoholics. In msia, the todi shops will get even
more business. In 1983 in Clapham South I saw a man openly sniff solvent
while walking, & from the frequent news reports there, I realised that solvent
addiction is common in UK.
Disgust is what non-smokers studying/ working with smokers will feel : not
only can smokers fumigate my lungs, when they get cancer I must help pay
for their treatments ! To hell with MMA's dr.k's "social responsibility".
Chain smokers are 95% of male & ½ of female pribumis in Indonesia, & 70
% of men in China. Nanyang said 60% of alcholics in UH are indians, see
http://202.56.157.127/%7Enanyang/lit/headlines/0103/010315_11.htm
, CAP's own study on samsu agrees : 80% of samsu sold in msia is drunk by
tamils. NHS will sure make msia go in this direction : cigar, cigarette, beer,
samsu, todi & glue makers can then advertise "Now you need fear no hospital
bill, so feel free to enjoy my product".
If HIV carriers will get free AZT, junkies will not fear HIV, then NHS will
be bankrupted by AZT's cost.
2] Breeds defective genes : couples with faulty genes i.e. cannot produce
healthy babies can have all their kids' defects repaired by NHS, no need to
appeal for help via media. Since msia's population incr by ½ million p.a., I
say let the faulty kids die, or be saved by willing donors, not unwilling tax
payers, because tax rates correlate with unemploymnt.
Pregnant women who smoke ( directly/indirectly ) produce retarded kids,
this is a known fact, & is the story of a bumi couple I know. NHS encourages
both addiction & this breeding. RTM's films of these kids are <½ as
shocking as BBC's of UK's, msia's tv stations should buy & show these films
, then msians can know how bad this problem is in UK, 1 reason why its high
taxes cannot drop.
3] Fraud : many dentists ( esp indian ones, exposed by BBC, & incl the 1 who
conned me ) bluff patients that elaborate treatments are needed. Because
patients need pay only a small share of the costs, patients (included me) are
easily fooled into accepting elaborate but unnecessary, & even wrong
treatments, because these dentists want to maximise their monthly claims
from NHS. Subsequently these patients ( included me ) need many remedial
treatments again @ NHS's expense. The wastage of time of patients & honest
dentists, will shock msians. After 6 repairs & 15 hr wasted, I finally lost 1
tooth, all because this crooked dentist wanted to claim more £ from NHS.
I was conned because I [i] did not know a dentist could claim from NHS far
more for a different treatment, I thought he got a fixed salary from NHS [ii]
thought a dentist would not bluff me just to earn £7 more from me : little did
I know that a dentist could collect from NHS £60 for fitting a crown, instead
of just £15 for a filling which was all I needed, as told by a honest dentist 4yr
later. Only 2yr later when I saw a dentist's monthly claims from NHS, did I
know this vast difference & why I was prescribed a crown. Then BBC's That's
Life programme exposed even worse attempted con done by another indian
dentist.
UK kids can get free spectacles on NHS, so many opticians there too make
fake claims, per BBC news. Already a few doctors in msia demand a NHS
to pay their unlimited claims, while they pretend to worry for public's health
: doctors / dentists / opticians can get their relatives to claim to have
received costly treatments.
Private sector underwriters & hospitals must be efficient to compete with 1
another i.e. quote & charge competitive rates, to stay in business, NHS is a
monopoly with a guaranteed & huge income i.e. no need to stop fraud, only
needs to demand bigger deductions from your wage / profit : already SOCSO
has paid out fake claims, bought new cars for its executives, while it demands
bigger deductions from your wages.
1] Encourages addiction e.g. of alcohol, nicotine, solvents, heroin : every
addict knows that when his/her resultant sicknesses appear, s/he can get free
repair from NHS entirely @ others' expense.
E.g. @ south of London's Balham train station, every thursday morning after
getting their dole from a post office, alcoholics buy liquor from liquor shops
then sit on a public bench outside & drink until their corneas & skin turn dark
red : when their kidneys / hearts fail, NHS must supply free dialysis / bypass,
now ¼ of UK NHS users are alcoholics. In msia, the todi shops will get even
more business. In 1983 in Clapham South I saw a man openly sniff solvent
while walking, & from the frequent news reports there, I realised that solvent
addiction is common in UK.
Disgust is what non-smokers studying/ working with smokers will feel : not
only can smokers fumigate my lungs, when they get cancer I must help pay
for their treatments ! To hell with MMA's dr.k's "social responsibility".
Chain smokers are 95% of male & ½ of female pribumis in Indonesia, & 70
% of men in China. Nanyang said 60% of alcholics in UH are indians, see
http://202.56.157.127/%7Enanyang/lit/headlines/0103/010315_11.htm
, CAP's own study on samsu agrees : 80% of samsu sold in msia is drunk by
tamils. NHS will sure make msia go in this direction : cigar, cigarette, beer,
samsu, todi & glue makers can then advertise "Now you need fear no hospital
bill, so feel free to enjoy my product".
If HIV carriers will get free AZT, junkies will not fear HIV, then NHS will
be bankrupted by AZT's cost.
2] Breeds defective genes : couples with faulty genes i.e. cannot produce
healthy babies can have all their kids' defects repaired by NHS, no need to
appeal for help via media. Since msia's population incr by ½ million p.a., I
say let the faulty kids die, or be saved by willing donors, not unwilling tax
payers, because tax rates correlate with unemploymnt.
Pregnant women who smoke ( directly/indirectly ) produce retarded kids,
this is a known fact, & is the story of a bumi couple I know. NHS encourages
both addiction & this breeding. RTM's films of these kids are <½ as
shocking as BBC's of UK's, msia's tv stations should buy & show these films
, then msians can know how bad this problem is in UK, 1 reason why its high
taxes cannot drop.
3] Fraud : many dentists ( esp indian ones, exposed by BBC, & incl the 1 who
conned me ) bluff patients that elaborate treatments are needed. Because
patients need pay only a small share of the costs, patients (included me) are
easily fooled into accepting elaborate but unnecessary, & even wrong
treatments, because these dentists want to maximise their monthly claims
from NHS. Subsequently these patients ( included me ) need many remedial
treatments again @ NHS's expense. The wastage of time of patients & honest
dentists, will shock msians. After 6 repairs & 15 hr wasted, I finally lost 1
tooth, all because this crooked dentist wanted to claim more £ from NHS.
I was conned because I [i] did not know a dentist could claim from NHS far
more for a different treatment, I thought he got a fixed salary from NHS [ii]
thought a dentist would not bluff me just to earn £7 more from me : little did
I know that a dentist could collect from NHS £60 for fitting a crown, instead
of just £15 for a filling which was all I needed, as told by a honest dentist 4yr
later. Only 2yr later when I saw a dentist's monthly claims from NHS, did I
know this vast difference & why I was prescribed a crown. Then BBC's That's
Life programme exposed even worse attempted con done by another indian
dentist.
UK kids can get free spectacles on NHS, so many opticians there too make
fake claims, per BBC news. Already a few doctors in msia demand a NHS
to pay their unlimited claims, while they pretend to worry for public's health
: doctors / dentists / opticians can get their relatives to claim to have
received costly treatments.
Private sector underwriters & hospitals must be efficient to compete with 1
another i.e. quote & charge competitive rates, to stay in business, NHS is a
monopoly with a guaranteed & huge income i.e. no need to stop fraud, only
needs to demand bigger deductions from your wage / profit : already SOCSO
has paid out fake claims, bought new cars for its executives, while it demands
bigger deductions from your wages.
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