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Klaus Kessler

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Jun 16, 2004, 5:10:12 PM6/16/04
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Konbanwa, mina-san.

How would you translate "Master" into japanese ?

Like in "How are you today, Master ?"
(sama ?)
No kanji please, my screen can´t show it anyway - and I can´t read it
anyway. :)

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健太郎

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Jun 16, 2004, 6:42:53 PM6/16/04
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Klaus Kessler wrote:
>[........]

>How would you translate "Master" into japanese ?
>Like in "How are you today, Master ?"
>(sama ?)
>[.........]

"sensei"

MfG
kentaro[at]tokyo


Klaus Kessler

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Jun 17, 2004, 6:42:52 AM6/17/04
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> "sensei"

AFAIK this means "Teacher".

James

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Jun 17, 2004, 8:06:58 AM6/17/04
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Klaus,

The Japanese word of Sensei accommodates the English words of teacher,
master and even goes as far as referring to doctors and similar
professionals alike.

The only other exception to the rule I have seen is calling someone using
the -san prefix - i.e. Bengoshi-San loosely translated as Mr Lawyer.
IMO I think the gesture of using Sensei or -San is used to show how someone
is an expert at the profession.

James

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Ian Parker

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Jun 17, 2004, 8:54:09 AM6/17/04
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In message <2jbr9mF...@uni-berlin.de>, Klaus Kessler
<d...@langschwert.de> writes

>Konbanwa, mina-san.
>
>How would you translate "Master" into japanese ?
>
>Like in "How are you today, Master ?"
>(sama ?)
>No kanji please, my screen can´t show it anyway - and I can´t read it
>anyway. :)
>

One uses "sensei" normally. You may use this with your teacher, doctor,
dentist or other professionals. I don't think you'd use it with your
boss unless he'd just taught you something profound.

There is also jukurensha which means a skilled person, an expert.


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Junn Ohta

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Jun 17, 2004, 8:56:18 AM6/17/04
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ja...@nospam.com wrote:
> The Japanese word of Sensei accommodates the English words of teacher,
> master and even goes as far as referring to doctors and similar
> professionals alike.

Good point.

The English word of Master accommodates the Japanese words of Sensei,
Go-Shujin-Sama, Danna-Sama, Oyabun, Oyakata, Shishou, Aruji and even
goes as far as referring to bosses and similar leaderships alike. :-)

Sensei = teacher
Go-Shujin-Sama = master, as Darth Vader calls The Emperor
Danna-Sama = master, as a slave calls his master
Oyabun = boss, as a gangster calls his boss
Oyakata = master, as a craftsman calls his boss
Shishou = master, as an apprentice calls his master
Aruji = landlord or shopkeeper, used by a guest of the same rank
Masutaa (master) = master bartendar, barber or alike
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Klaus Kessler

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Jun 17, 2004, 1:27:57 PM6/17/04
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> Danna-Sama = master, as a slave calls his master

That was exactely what I wanted to know. :)
Thank you !

See www.finsterling.de :)

Œ’‘¾˜Y

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Jun 18, 2004, 12:56:23 AM6/18/04
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Klaus Kessler wrote:
>> Danna-Sama = master, as a slave calls his master

>That was exactely what I wanted to know. :)

So, what would the translation to the sentence "How are you today, Master ?"
be?
I want to know it.


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Unforgiven

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Jun 20, 2004, 7:18:06 PM6/20/04
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"O''鴉Y" <kent_...@d1.dion.ne.jp> wrote in message
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"Genki desu ka, danna-sama." or "danna-sama wa genki desu ka." would be my
bets.

Throw a 'kyou' in there somewhere if you must emphasise the today, but I
don't think it's really necessary to put that in.

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Unforgiven

Otsuka Katsumi

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Jun 20, 2004, 8:39:39 PM6/20/04
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Unforgiven wrote:

> >>> Danna-Sama = master, as a slave calls his master
> >

> > So, what would the translation to the sentence "How are you today, Master?"
> > be?
>

> "Genki desu ka, danna-sama." or "danna-sama wa genki desu ka." would be my
> bets.

A slave must use "keigo" to his master.

And please note that "danna-sama" or "goshujin-sama" frequently means
"husband" these days.

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Katsumi Otsuka
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健太郎

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Jun 20, 2004, 9:07:26 PM6/20/04
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Unforgiven wrote:
>"健太郎"(Me)

>> Klaus Kessler wrote:
>>>> Danna-Sama = master, as a slave calls his master
>>
>>>That was exactely what I wanted to know. :)
>>
>> So, what would the translation to the sentence
>>"How are you today, Master ?" be?
>> I want to know it.
>
>"Genki desu ka, danna-sama." or "danna-sama wa genki desu ka." would be my
>bets.
>

In the US drama "Roots"?
The situation is very limited to it then.

_______
kentaro@tokyo


[PS] i remember a situation suddenly now.
One of the most surprising things in the Western World where
i'd been before was that a Master appears actually when i say
to a man that i want to talk to your manager. In Japan never.
In Japan people never ask "How are you today, master?"

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