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Disaster

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Aug 28, 2002, 1:27:09 PM8/28/02
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What I did when I posted Morgan's address was not wrong. I got it from his
domain listing which publicly lists his details. It was his choice to list
them there.

That's it. That's everything. There's no break of moral code or ethical
values. No legal battle is going to ensue.

All of you getting off on a fucking holy avenger trip go fuck yourselves.
I thought you were friends. you were here when you saw the crap that he
dumped on me and all most of you ever did was ignore it. Now I list
something that's public and suddenly I'm the evil one.

Would you complain if I listed MS's address? No, you'd thank me for the
opporunity to send hate mail. That would make you a fucking hypocrite! So
if you want to run crying or throw me on your blocked lists go ahead.
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Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 28, 2002, 6:12:24 PM8/28/02
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Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:

> What I did when I posted Morgan's address was not wrong. I got it from his
> domain listing which publicly lists his details. It was his choice to list
> them there.

Which domain? Was the domain name posted here? I only found the URL of
some school website that has an address somewhere else.

But I still did not check how distant these two towns were.

> That's it. That's everything. There's no break of moral code or ethical
> values. No legal battle is going to ensue.

There's a big difference in that.

> All of you getting off on a fucking holy avenger trip go fuck yourselves.
> I thought you were friends. you were here when you saw the crap that he
> dumped on me and all most of you ever did was ignore it. Now I list
> something that's public and suddenly I'm the evil one.

morgan was not as bad as you write here. Well, his last three posts
really were, but not the rest. If only he wouldn't top post. But he
didn't do this everytime.

I think you're a bit over-reacting - but the idea of starting the
address thread wasn't your worst.

> Would you complain if I listed MS's address? No, you'd thank me for the
> opporunity to send hate mail.

MS's address? Do you mean the same MS as I do? Then it's useless. They
already get enough hate mail and probably automatically burn it or
whatever.

Maybe Redmond does not even have a post office any more?

> That would make you a fucking hypocrite! So if you want to run crying
> or throw me on your blocked lists go ahead.

ACK.

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Shinu no wa iya. Shinu no wa iya. Shinu no wa iya. Shinu no wa iya.
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Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 28, 2002, 7:10:21 PM8/28/02
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>What I did when I posted Morgan's address was not wrong. I got it from his
>domain listing which publicly lists his details. It was his choice to list
>them there.
>
>That's it. That's everything. There's no break of moral code or ethical
>values. No legal battle is going to ensue.
>
>All of you getting off on a fucking holy avenger trip go fuck yourselves.
>I thought you were friends. you were here when you saw the crap that he
>dumped on me and all most of you ever did was ignore it. Now I list
>something that's public and suddenly I'm the evil one.
>
>Would you complain if I listed MS's address? No, you'd thank me for the
>opporunity to send hate mail. That would make you a fucking hypocrite! So
>if you want to run crying or throw me on your blocked lists go ahead.

What a beautiful speech! Makes me wonder why I'm after you. Ah well, nevermind
that

*continues construction of space colonies*
*thinks*
...ooops, that was supposed to be top secret!
---

"OH, MY GOD!! SOMEBODY PUT SHIT IN MY PANTS!!!!!!!"

Disaster

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Aug 28, 2002, 10:15:44 PM8/28/02
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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > What I did when I posted Morgan's address was not wrong. I got it from
his
> > domain listing which publicly lists his details. It was his choice to
list
> > them there.
>
> Which domain? Was the domain name posted here? I only found the URL of
> some school website that has an address somewhere else.
>
> But I still did not check how distant these two towns were.

I don't remember! I found about three emails that he used, I checked the
domains in them and one of them turned out to be his.

> > That's it. That's everything. There's no break of moral code or
ethical
> > values. No legal battle is going to ensue.
>
> There's a big difference in that.

In what? There's only one situation here there's nothing to compare
anything too.

> > All of you getting off on a fucking holy avenger trip go fuck
yourselves.
> > I thought you were friends. you were here when you saw the crap that
he
> > dumped on me and all most of you ever did was ignore it. Now I list
> > something that's public and suddenly I'm the evil one.
>
> morgan was not as bad as you write here. Well, his last three posts
> really were, but not the rest. If only he wouldn't top post. But he
> didn't do this everytime.

Apparently you did get 90% of his posts a while ago.

> I think you're a bit over-reacting - but the idea of starting the
> address thread wasn't your worst.

Three of my longest friends here in the group just ostracized me because
they think I did something bad. You'll have to excuse me for reacting.

> > Would you complain if I listed MS's address? No, you'd thank me for
the
> > opporunity to send hate mail.
>
> MS's address? Do you mean the same MS as I do? Then it's useless. They
> already get enough hate mail and probably automatically burn it or
> whatever.

I mean MicroSoft and what they currently get is beside the point. The
point is they have an address that anyone can look up and post.

> Maybe Redmond does not even have a post office any more?

I got no idea what you are talking about.

Disaster

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Aug 28, 2002, 10:18:33 PM8/28/02
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"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
> What a beautiful speech! Makes me wonder why I'm after you. Ah well,
nevermind
> that
>
> *continues construction of space colonies*
> *thinks*
> ...ooops, that was supposed to be top secret!

Sometimes I get really confused. The response in here has been so varied.
Some condemn me, some don't care, others analyze.

Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 29, 2002, 2:48:10 AM8/29/02
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Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:

> "Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> > Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > > What I did when I posted Morgan's address was not wrong. I got it from his
> > > domain listing which publicly lists his details. It was his choice to list
> > > them there.
[...]

> > > That's it. That's everything. There's no break of moral code or ethical
> > > values. No legal battle is going to ensue.
> >
> > There's a big difference in that.
>
> In what? There's only one situation here there's nothing to compare
> anything too.

I meant: there's a big difference between moral and laws. Of course
there's no possibility of pursuing this legally - your argumentation of
this information being public is legally OK.

> > > All of you getting off on a fucking holy avenger trip go fuck yourselves.
> > > I thought you were friends. you were here when you saw the crap that he
> > > dumped on me and all most of you ever did was ignore it. Now I list
> > > something that's public and suddenly I'm the evil one.
> >
> > morgan was not as bad as you write here. Well, his last three posts
> > really were, but not the rest. If only he wouldn't top post. But he
> > didn't do this everytime.
>
> Apparently you did get 90% of his posts a while ago.

I just checked with Google.

But the postings I got all had the "new" address - and if I had read
these threads before (often I ignored threads with you and morgan
posting), I'd have known he was changing mail addresses.

> > I think you're a bit over-reacting - but the idea of starting the
> > address thread wasn't your worst.
>
> Three of my longest friends here in the group just ostracized me because
> they think I did something bad. You'll have to excuse me for reacting.

You could have known this before. There are many people who are
extremely against posting someone else's address. Even I don't think
that's OK, but the only one who should be concerned about this is the
owner of the address.

> > > Would you complain if I listed MS's address? No, you'd thank me for the
> > > opporunity to send hate mail.
> >
> > MS's address? Do you mean the same MS as I do? Then it's useless. They
> > already get enough hate mail and probably automatically burn it or
> > whatever.
>
> I mean MicroSoft and what they currently get is beside the point. The
> point is they have an address that anyone can look up and post.

Do you really think mail sent to "1 Microsoft Way" in Redmond (WA, 98052)
would even get read? It'd be immediately used as firelighters or
whatever, but certainly not read. No matter how professional the letter
looks, no matter whether it was done using Word, LaTeX or StarOffice.

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[Asuka in Neon Genesis Evangelion - english: "I'll kill you"]

Disaster

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Aug 29, 2002, 3:35:32 AM8/29/02
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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > In what? There's only one situation here there's nothing to compare
> > anything too.
>
> I meant: there's a big difference between moral and laws. Of course
> there's no possibility of pursuing this legally - your argumentation of
> this information being public is legally OK.

I see, well yes there is a difference there, I was covering both bases in
the statement I made.

> > > morgan was not as bad as you write here. Well, his last three posts
> > > really were, but not the rest. If only he wouldn't top post. But he
> > > didn't do this everytime.
> >
> > Apparently you did get 90% of his posts a while ago.

That was meant to say you did not get 90%.

> I just checked with Google.
>
> But the postings I got all had the "new" address - and if I had read
> these threads before (often I ignored threads with you and morgan
> posting), I'd have known he was changing mail addresses.

I got 3 emails from his postings. Over quite a period of time though.

> > Three of my longest friends here in the group just ostracized me
because
> > they think I did something bad. You'll have to excuse me for reacting.
>
> You could have known this before. There are many people who are
> extremely against posting someone else's address. Even I don't think
> that's OK, but the only one who should be concerned about this is the
> owner of the address.

Yeah, I'm not 100% comfortable myself but I'm not bothered that much by
it. I only released public info to a public forum. If some people are
uncomfortable with it that's your own problem. The owner in this case
shouldn't be concerned, they did give out their own information willingly.

> > I mean MicroSoft and what they currently get is beside the point. The
> > point is they have an address that anyone can look up and post.
>
> Do you really think mail sent to "1 Microsoft Way" in Redmond (WA,
98052)
> would even get read? It'd be immediately used as firelighters or
> whatever, but certainly not read. No matter how professional the letter
> looks, no matter whether it was done using Word, LaTeX or StarOffice.

That's not the point and you know it. Bottom line is that there's a public
address issued in a public forum. If I had posted a link to a site that
showed his address would it be acceptable then? It's the same thing.
Everyone who can access the web can get the info though. It's not private,
their are no secret passwords. Not like I grabbed the info from one of the
donor databases I managed and threw that up. Now that would be
objectionable and illegal. I currently manage one and am starting another.

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 29, 2002, 3:24:30 PM8/29/02
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>"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
>> What a beautiful speech! Makes me wonder why I'm after you. Ah well,
>nevermind
>> that
>>
>> *continues construction of space colonies*
>> *thinks*
>> ...ooops, that was supposed to be top secret!
>
>Sometimes I get really confused. The response in here has been so varied.
>Some condemn me, some don't care, others analyze.

*suddenly a news bulletin comes on every channel in the world*
Newscaster: This is an urgent report! Several large objects have been
discovered above Earth's...
*suddenly the newsroom the newscaster was in gets very bright before the TVs
all go fuzzy*
*Zeruel turns his TV off and whistles innocently*

Disaster

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Aug 29, 2002, 4:18:34 PM8/29/02
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*Casually watching the destruction of the earth through several portals
that only transmit light and sound Disaster continues to moan and groan as
he sends the recall for his Reis to return from vacation*

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 29, 2002, 5:49:18 PM8/29/02
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>"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
>> > Sometimes I get really confused. The response in here has been so
>varied.
>> > Some condemn me, some don't care, others analyze.
>>
>> *suddenly a news bulletin comes on every channel in the world*
>> Newscaster: This is an urgent report! Several large objects have been
>> discovered above Earth's...
>> *suddenly the newsroom the newscaster was in gets very bright before the
>TVs
>> all go fuzzy*
>> *Zeruel turns his TV off and whistles innocently*
>
>*Casually watching the destruction of the earth through several portals
>that only transmit light and sound Disaster continues to moan and groan as
>he sends the recall for his Reis to return from vacation*

Um...I'm not gonna destroy the Earth; those colonies are just there to expand
my power into space (and a couple of them happen to have mega-particle cannons)

Disaster

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Aug 30, 2002, 11:12:08 AM8/30/02
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Oh....... :(

That's boring. I'll do it myself then. I have a new satelitte that lets me
carve my initials in the sides of planets! It looks really cool!

*Has 200 StarSat's warpped into orbit around the earth and begin the
process of lifting the crust off the planet*

A planets own glow looks so beautiful from orbit.

Stealth

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"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote in message
news:20020829174918...@mb-fv.aol.com...

Colony drop, dammit, colony drop!! Operation Meteor!! eheheh.
Btw.. anyone heard anything about the new Gundam series, SEED?

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Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 30, 2002, 3:31:19 PM8/30/02
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>"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
>> > *Casually watching the destruction of the earth through several
>portals
>> > that only transmit light and sound Disaster continues to moan and
>groan as
>> > he sends the recall for his Reis to return from vacation*
>>
>> Um...I'm not gonna destroy the Earth; those colonies are just there to
>expand
>> my power into space (and a couple of them happen to have mega-particle
>cannons)
>
>Oh....... :(
>
>That's boring. I'll do it myself then. I have a new satelitte that lets me
>carve my initials in the sides of planets! It looks really cool!
>
>*Has 200 StarSat's warpped into orbit around the earth and begin the
>process of lifting the crust off the planet*
>
>A planets own glow looks so beautiful from orbit.

Hey...people I know live on that planet! *annihilates the StarSats with the
mega particle cannons*

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 30, 2002, 3:34:22 PM8/30/02
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>"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote in message
>news:20020829174918...@mb-fv.aol.com...
>> >"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
>> >> > Sometimes I get really confused. The response in here has been so
>> >varied.
>> >> > Some condemn me, some don't care, others analyze.
>> >>
>> >> *suddenly a news bulletin comes on every channel in the world*
>> >> Newscaster: This is an urgent report! Several large objects have been
>> >> discovered above Earth's...
>> >> *suddenly the newsroom the newscaster was in gets very bright before
>the
>> >TVs
>> >> all go fuzzy*
>> >> *Zeruel turns his TV off and whistles innocently*
>> >
>> >*Casually watching the destruction of the earth through several portals
>> >that only transmit light and sound Disaster continues to moan and groan
>as
>> >he sends the recall for his Reis to return from vacation*
>>
>> Um...I'm not gonna destroy the Earth; those colonies are just there to
>expand
>> my power into space (and a couple of them happen to have mega-particle
>cannons)
>
>Colony drop, dammit, colony drop!! Operation Meteor!! eheheh.
>Btw.. anyone heard anything about the new Gundam series, SEED?

you can go to http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/index.htm
and check the mechanics of the Gundams (and some of the ships) that are in that
series
btw- Bandai released a model of Gundam Astray and I think it might still be on
ebay (but I think the model is low grade)

Disaster

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Aug 30, 2002, 7:58:48 PM8/30/02
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*Blink*
You destroyed 200 just like that? With a few pitiful particle cannons? You
seriously think that particle technology is going to penetrate the
shielding around the sats? I know I should describe my sats in more detail
but yeesh come on.

Okay here is the story. A StarSat basically is a huge unmanned focused
portal to the core of neutron stars. It opens a tunnel into the core of
the star and then through a carefully controlled process gradually draws
some of the mass through and releases it from it's own gravity. It then
works on it's own! The massive core flare rockets through the short tunnel
which gives it focus and then out through the aperture, the slight
alterations and nature of the flare means you are dealing with super
heated mass traveling at close to the speed of light in normal space.
That's the main gun. To defend itself it has smaller portals that deal
smaller flares. The problem with this system is heat. Even though all the
flares are directed away from the sat we are still talking about a flare
generated from the core of the star with the highest rated density. The
smaller Flare portal can fire more often and needs far less time to cool
whilst the main gun can only be opened for about 15 seconds and needs
around 30 seconds to cool. This is thanks to cooling technology developed
for the sat specifically. The main gun is capable of hitting a target with
a blast from about 400 meters wide to 50000 meters wide. The smaller guns
work from about 3 meters to 30 meters. Part of the cooling process is the
use of a customized phase engine. the Sat is lifted out of normal space
fractionaly. This means that particles and energy can travel off the sat
and into normal space but that little more then photons can travel back
into the sphere of influence. Thus it is effective at also deflecting
particles.

I'm late with this so I can not doing anything about it. I should have had
the sats facing the other way. You own me 200 sats that you can't produce!
As well as a whole lot of fun. I'm having another 200 sats portaled into
orbit. You are going to loose everything you have around the planet, then
you are going to loose everyone you have on the planet.

Vaughn L.Porter

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Aug 31, 2002, 1:27:27 AM8/31/02
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From "Clone Wars" to "Star Wars".... And I Still Want My Soul Back!!!!!

Vaughn L.Porter
Am I annoying yet! My Soul!!

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 31, 2002, 6:08:19 AM8/31/02
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...
*transports everyone and everything off the planet to an unknown location*
there, have fun destroying the planet

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 31, 2002, 7:35:03 AM8/31/02
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Nah, instead I'll do this *gets on God's computer and moves the Earth and Sun
to a secret location then creates black holes right next to each StarSat and
watches them get sucked in and destroyed*
*zeruel also moves his space colonies to orbit around the Earth in it's secret
location*
No shielding can possibly protect from a black hole!

Kakarotto

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Aug 31, 2002, 7:55:57 AM8/31/02
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Not this shit again. Oh wait I got it, a cork.
*Kakarotto shoves corks into each black hole* *Kakarotto kills god and
destroys his computer.*


Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 8:21:15 AM8/31/02
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Scripsit ille Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan>:
[...]

> Nah, instead I'll do this *gets on God's computer and moves the Earth and Sun
^^^^
"the `gets' function is dangerous and should not be used."

Forget it!

> to a secret location then creates black holes right next to each StarSat and
> watches them get sucked in and destroyed*

*persuades God of His non-existence*

> *zeruel also moves his space colonies to orbit around the Earth in it's secret
> location*

Do that.

> No shielding can possibly protect from a black hole!

*watching your black hole sinking into a Dirac sea*

--
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die nteste Wurzel immer noch über 1 Milliarde liegt, und die niemals
negativ werden können - ...
(ein Teilnehmer an einem Heise-Forum, den ich jetzt besser nicht nenne)

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:26:52 AM8/31/02
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>Not this shit again. Oh wait I got it, a cork.
>*Kakarotto shoves corks into each black hole* *Kakarotto kills god and
>destroys his computer.*

I'm not even gonna start about the errors in what you just did but I am gonna
say this: he is trying to blow up the planet you and everyone else is on; why
do something against me who's trying to save it and not something against him
who's trying to blow it up?

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:29:07 AM8/31/02
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>Scripsit ille Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan>:
>[...]
>> Nah, instead I'll do this *gets on God's computer and moves the Earth and
>Sun
> ^^^^
>"the `gets' function is dangerous and should not be used."
>
>Forget it!
>
>> to a secret location then creates black holes right next to each StarSat
>and
>> watches them get sucked in and destroyed*
>
>*persuades God of His non-existence*

9_9

>
>> *zeruel also moves his space colonies to orbit around the Earth in it's
>secret
>> location*
>
>Do that.

I will!

>
>> No shielding can possibly protect from a black hole!
>
>*watching your black hole sinking into a Dirac sea*
>

that's impossible; black holes cannot be sucked into a dirac sea

Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:46:01 AM8/31/02
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Scripsit ille Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan>:
> >Scripsit ille Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan>:
> >[...]
> >> No shielding can possibly protect from a black hole!
> >
> >*watching your black hole sinking into a Dirac sea*
>
> that's impossible; black holes cannot be sucked into a dirac sea

Did you try?

According to current theories, you're right. But: look at Newton, look
at Einstein. They all were wrong and physics behaved only
"approximately" as they predicted. So why should the current physical
model be right? From time to time, we get better approximations. But
we'll never understand physics completely.

Again, an on-topic sig...

--
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Your source is in conflict with my opinion, thus your source is
obviously flawed. [Disaster in japan.anime.evangelion]

Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 10:53:56 AM8/31/02
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Scripsit ille Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan>:
> >Not this shit again. Oh wait I got it, a cork.
> >*Kakarotto shoves corks into each black hole* *Kakarotto kills god and
> >destroys his computer.*
>
> I'm not even gonna start about the errors in what you just did but I am gonna
> say this: he is trying to blow up the planet you and everyone else is on; why
> do something against me who's trying to save it and not something against him
> who's trying to blow it up?

*building another computer with parameter similar to God's*
*installing a Disaster-safe and Kakarotto-safe operating system on it*
*installing pre-SI (that's pre-Windows XP) backup data*
*forgetting the root password to check for God's omniscience*
.
.
.
Check failed! That means everything's under my control!

--
[mpg123d] Just playing: .../MP3/hayashibara/iravati/06 The Gift.mp3

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:15:52 PM8/31/02
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"Vaughn L.Porter" <vau...@pcez.com> wrote:

These are not death stars although if you build one large enough you could
do the same thing.

> Vaughn L.Porter
> Am I annoying yet! My Soul!!

It's worth the price!

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:16:55 PM8/31/02
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When did you start transporting entire global populations instantly?

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:21:18 PM8/31/02
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Well actualyll you are wrong, gravity is a form of energy and the phase
shifters in the sats don't allow that energy to influence their areas of
effect. Think of it as not resisting the black holes draw but just kinda
dodging around it.

What is impossible is using gods computer! As you know, he doesn't have
one.

*Gives the command to open fire and two hundred sats open their portals,
200 flares generated from the cores of the largest most dense stars
envelop the planet. Everything on the surface is vaporized, in cluding
most of the crust. As the Mantle is exposed a nice glow stars to eminate
from the now blasted planet*

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:22:50 PM8/31/02
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"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
> >Not this shit again. Oh wait I got it, a cork.
> >*Kakarotto shoves corks into each black hole* *Kakarotto kills god and
> >destroys his computer.*
>
> I'm not even gonna start about the errors in what you just did but I am
gonna
> say this: he is trying to blow up the planet you and everyone else is
on; why
> do something against me who's trying to save it and not something
against him
> who's trying to blow it up?

Errors? Their are fewer errors in destroying something that doesn't exist
then in trying to use it you mental case!

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:21:45 PM8/31/02
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LMAO

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:26:09 PM8/31/02
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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit ille Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan>:
> > I'm not even gonna start about the errors in what you just did but I
am gonna
> > say this: he is trying to blow up the planet you and everyone else is
on; why
> > do something against me who's trying to save it and not something
against him
> > who's trying to blow it up?
>
> *building another computer with parameter similar to God's*

Can you tell me what they were?

> *installing a Disaster-safe and Kakarotto-safe operating system on it*

A PC is never ever safe from a sledgehammer!

> *installing pre-SI (that's pre-Windows XP) backup data*

................ That's not safe!

> *forgetting the root password to check for God's omniscience*

God won't mind! He doesn't need a password to do his job or stop you from
doing it for him.

> .
> .
> .
> Check failed! That means everything's under my control!

You apparently have a faulty check. For in order to have a "Gods computer"
there must of course be a God. As such, a being a unlimited power and
influence is not going to ever relinquish such power unto you. Hence what
you have can not possibly be God's Computer.

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:28:19 PM8/31/02
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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit ille Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan>:
> > >Scripsit ille Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan>:
> > >[...]
> > >> No shielding can possibly protect from a black hole!
> > >
> > >*watching your black hole sinking into a Dirac sea*
> >
> > that's impossible; black holes cannot be sucked into a dirac sea
>
> Did you try?
>
> According to current theories, you're right. But: look at Newton, look
> at Einstein. They all were wrong and physics behaved only
> "approximately" as they predicted. So why should the current physical
> model be right? From time to time, we get better approximations. But
> we'll never understand physics completely.

As all genius has been proven wrong before we could say that you could
also be wrong. It is concievable that we will one day get an accurate
model of the laws of physics.

Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:36:48 PM8/31/02
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Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:

> "Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> > Scripsit ille Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan>:
> > > >Scripsit ille Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan>:
> > > >[...]
> > > >> No shielding can possibly protect from a black hole!
> > > >
> > > >*watching your black hole sinking into a Dirac sea*
> > >
> > > that's impossible; black holes cannot be sucked into a dirac sea
> >
> > Did you try?
> >
> > According to current theories, you're right. But: look at Newton, look
> > at Einstein. They all were wrong and physics behaved only
> > "approximately" as they predicted. So why should the current physical
> > model be right? From time to time, we get better approximations. But
> > we'll never understand physics completely.
>
> As all genius has been proven wrong before we could say that you could
> also be wrong. It is concievable that we will one day get an accurate
> model of the laws of physics.

Exactly. I knew this will come - but it does not render black holes being
sucked into a Dirac see impossible.

Well, even I don't think it would work, but where should I know?

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FK>>> Was ist "exe"?
RP>> Das, wofür man Wein braucht, weil es sich sonst nicht exekutieren lässt.
FG> Oder virtuell Ware auf der Maschine. <2002070818...@grossing.de>

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:36:55 PM8/31/02
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>"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
>> ...
>> *transports everyone and everything off the planet to an unknown
>location*
>> there, have fun destroying the planet
>
>When did you start transporting entire global populations instantly?

actually, I moved the planet (I tried my teleporter but it still didnt work so
I just used God's computer to relocate the planet Earth and the Sun to a
different location and put a black hole right next to each StarSat)

Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:45:08 PM8/31/02
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Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:

> "Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> > Scripsit ille Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan>:
> > > I'm not even gonna start about the errors in what you just did but I am gonna
> > > say this: he is trying to blow up the planet you and everyone else is on; why
> > > do something against me who's trying to save it and not something against him
> > > who's trying to blow it up?
> >
> > *building another computer with parameter similar to God's*
>
> Can you tell me what they were?

They're actually very similar to Deep Thought's. The only difference is
that God's computer is highly overclocked and cooled down using liquid
hydrogenium, so it can do in some seconds what took Deep Thought millions
of years.

> > *installing a Disaster-safe and Kakarotto-safe operating system on it*
>
> A PC is never ever safe from a sledgehammer!

Not every computer is a PC...

> > *installing pre-SI (that's pre-Windows XP) backup data*
>
> ................ That's not safe!

At least it's more safe than installing Windows XP.

> > *forgetting the root password to check for God's omniscience*
>
> God won't mind! He doesn't need a password to do his job or stop you from
> doing it for him.

Right, he can do his job without the computer. He's just not used to it
any more. If the computer screen tells him something, he obeys.

> > .
> > .
> > .
> > Check failed! That means everything's under my control!
>
> You apparently have a faulty check. For in order to have a "Gods computer"
> there must of course be a God.

Which is the most unclear thing in the chain. Note that he thinks he
doesn't exist after me persuading him of that. But since he's
omniscient, if he knows he doesn't exist, he doesn't. But if he
doesn't exist, I couldn't have persuaded him of his non-existance.
ARGH!!!1

Ceterum censeo anima Vaughni esse reddendam.

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"Aus Ehrfurcht, hoff ich, soll es mir gelingen,
Mein leichtes Naturell zu zwingen;
Nur zickzack geht gewöhnlich unser Lauf."
"Ei! ei! Er denkts den Menschen nachzuahmen."

Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:51:13 PM8/31/02
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Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> "Vaughn L.Porter" <vau...@pcez.com> wrote:
[...]

> > Vaughn L.Porter
> > Am I annoying yet! My Soul!!
>
> It's worth the price!

Ceterum censeo animam Vaughni esse reddendam.

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Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:50:17 PM8/31/02
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Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:

> "Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
> > >Not this shit again. Oh wait I got it, a cork.
> > >*Kakarotto shoves corks into each black hole* *Kakarotto kills god and
> > >destroys his computer.*
> >
> > I'm not even gonna start about the errors in what you just did but I am gonna
> > say this: he is trying to blow up the planet you and everyone else is on; why
> > do something against me who's trying to save it and not something against him
> > who's trying to blow it up?
>
> Errors? Their are fewer errors in destroying something that doesn't exist
> then in trying to use it you mental case!

No. After destroying what didn't exist there are -1 of them. -1 is not
zero, so after that, it does exist. It can only be removed by creating
it - if you destroy it, you've got -2 of them which is an even worse
inconsistence. The simplest way ou is destroying *all* of them, because
this would mean destroying -1 respective -2 of them, and after that there
are none (0) left. So one gets into major trouble when destroying what
doesn't exist.

Using it, however, does just result in noting. It's useless - but it
does not create such inconsistencies. It's completely harmless.

Ceterum censeo animam Vaughni esse reddendam. Sorry for the missing 'm'
in my last posting.

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L: Núper erát medicús nunc ést vispíllo Diáulus:
D: Früher war er Arzt, nun ist Diaulus Totengräber:
L: Quód vispíllo facít - fécerat ét medicús.
D: Was er als Totengräber macht - tat er schon als Arzt. [Martial]

Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 12:58:16 PM8/31/02
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Scripsit ille Kakarotto <kaka...@xtra.co.nz>:

> Not this shit again. Oh wait I got it, a cork.
> *Kakarotto shoves corks into each black hole* *Kakarotto kills god and
> destroys his computer.*

Tricky.
.
.
.
Got it!

*pulling the corks out of the black holes*

Now you want to know how I did this? Easy. Very easy. Really very easy.
Just take a corkscrew. It's easy to get it into a cork - and once it's
in it, you can pull it out of the black hole - *with* the cork, of
course.

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Bald kommen ihrer mehre dran,
Und wenn dich erst ein Dutzend hat,
So hat dich auch die ganze Stadt.

Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 1:02:02 PM8/31/02
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Scripsit ille Kakarotto <kaka...@xtra.co.nz>:

> Not this shit again. Oh wait I got it, a cork.
> *Kakarotto shoves corks into each black hole* *Kakarotto kills god and
> destroys his computer.*

Tricky.


.
.
.
Got it!

*pulling the corks out of the black holes*

Now you want to know how I did this? Easy. Very easy. Really very easy.
Just take a corkscrew. It's easy to get it into a cork - and once it's
in it, you can pull it out of the black hole - *with* the cork, of
course.

The idea was - of course - inspired by the subject line.

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 31, 2002, 2:10:25 PM8/31/02
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...
*God sees this and after sighing he recreates the Earth exactly as it was and
removes those StarSats that are around it and erases everyone's memory*

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 3:23:30 PM8/31/02
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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:

> > It's worth the price!
>
> Ceterum censeo animam Vaughni esse reddendam.

You know that's meaningless to me right?

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 3:30:06 PM8/31/02
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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > "Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> > > *building another computer with parameter similar to God's*
> >
> > Can you tell me what they were?
>
> They're actually very similar to Deep Thought's. The only difference is
> that God's computer is highly overclocked and cooled down using liquid
> hydrogenium, so it can do in some seconds what took Deep Thought
millions
> of years.

I am not aware of the existence of Deep Thought, therefore it does not
exist. At least that's how it works when you talk to God right?

> > > *installing a Disaster-safe and Kakarotto-safe operating system on
it*
> >
> > A PC is never ever safe from a sledgehammer!
>
> Not every computer is a PC...

I should have said Computer then! Very well.

A Computer is never ever safe from a sledgehammer!

> > > *installing pre-SI (that's pre-Windows XP) backup data*
> >
> > ................ That's not safe!
>
> At least it's more safe than installing Windows XP.

It's worse then XP! I use an evolved system that started with the MAGI
just after 3rd Impacts flop. We are confident that it's a secure system,
being in a perfect world doesn't hurt either!

> > > *forgetting the root password to check for God's omniscience*
> >
> > God won't mind! He doesn't need a password to do his job or stop you
from
> > doing it for him.
>
> Right, he can do his job without the computer. He's just not used to it
> any more. If the computer screen tells him something, he obeys.

Don't be rediculous! You are talking about God you have to give him the
credit he deserves otherwise you are calling some other entity God which
means you no longer have the power associated with God. You can't have
both worlds.

> > > Check failed! That means everything's under my control!
> >
> > You apparently have a faulty check. For in order to have a "Gods
computer"
> > there must of course be a God.
>
> Which is the most unclear thing in the chain. Note that he thinks he
> doesn't exist after me persuading him of that. But since he's
> omniscient, if he knows he doesn't exist, he doesn't. But if he
> doesn't exist, I couldn't have persuaded him of his non-existance.

> ARGH!!!!

If he thinks that he does not exist then all that he foresees no longer
has a source hence the disappearance of reality as Kak mentioned. However,
as we are still here arguing about it we can deduce that God managed to
overcome your brainwashing and has recovered nicely.

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 3:35:24 PM8/31/02
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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > Errors? Their are fewer errors in destroying something that doesn't
exist
> > then in trying to use it you mental case!
>
> No. After destroying what didn't exist there are -1 of them. -1 is not
> zero, so after that, it does exist. It can only be removed by creating
> it - if you destroy it, you've got -2 of them which is an even worse
> inconsistence. The simplest way ou is destroying *all* of them, because
> this would mean destroying -1 respective -2 of them, and after that
there
> are none (0) left. So one gets into major trouble when destroying what
> doesn't exist.
>
> Using it, however, does just result in noting. It's useless - but it
> does not create such inconsistencies. It's completely harmless.

Actually as we are using an object with a mass greater then 0 or -1 then
we can not refer to the situation using the process you described above.
You can never have -1 or -2 of something regardless of intent. The only
way you could conceive of -1 or -2 is if you compare one time frame to
another in which you had 2 of them before and now you have 0. This would
generate a -2 difference. Which is just as good as saying you have 0 of
them. Hence the destruction of nothing gives you the same result as the
destruction of something. However the use of something that doesn't exist
is much less then the use of something that would have been there!

Hence, it is more useless to try and use something that isn't there then
it is to destroy it.

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 3:37:10 PM8/31/02
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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit ille Kakarotto <kaka...@xtra.co.nz>:
> > Not this shit again. Oh wait I got it, a cork.
> > *Kakarotto shoves corks into each black hole* *Kakarotto kills god and
> > destroys his computer.*
>
> Tricky.
> .
> .
> .
> Got it!
>
> *pulling the corks out of the black holes*
>
> Now you want to know how I did this? Easy. Very easy. Really very easy.
> Just take a corkscrew. It's easy to get it into a cork - and once it's
> in it, you can pull it out of the black hole - *with* the cork, of
> course.

It's more likely that the particles that used to be the cork are somewhere
above and/or below the plane of the galaxy.

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 3:38:52 PM8/31/02
to
"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:

> > As all genius has been proven wrong before we could say that you could
> > also be wrong. It is concievable that we will one day get an accurate
> > model of the laws of physics.
>
> Exactly. I knew this will come - but it does not render black holes
being
> sucked into a Dirac see impossible.
>
> Well, even I don't think it would work, but where should I know?

From what we have seen it is conceivable that a Dirac Sea and Black hole
would more or less ignore each other. The question is does the effect of
the Black hole transfer through the bored of the sea?

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 3:39:16 PM8/31/02
to
"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit ille Kakarotto <kaka...@xtra.co.nz>:
> > Not this shit again. Oh wait I got it, a cork.
> > *Kakarotto shoves corks into each black hole* *Kakarotto kills god and
> > destroys his computer.*
>
> Tricky.
> .
> .
> .
> Got it!
>
> *pulling the corks out of the black holes*
>
> Now you want to know how I did this? Easy. Very easy. Really very easy.
> Just take a corkscrew. It's easy to get it into a cork - and once it's
> in it, you can pull it out of the black hole - *with* the cork, of
> course.
>
> The idea was - of course - inspired by the subject line.

LMAO

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 3:42:31 PM8/31/02
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*200 Star Sats appear as the time line starts to move again*

*Disaster Gives the command to open fire and two hundred sats open their


portals, 200 flares generated from the cores of the largest most dense
stars envelop the planet. Everything on the surface is vaporized,

including most of the crust. As the Mantle is exposed a nice glow stars to


eminate from the now blasted planet*

*Gods looks about, decides that this isn't his mess and settles in to
watch the show deciding that he will no longer interfere with the actions
of mortals any more then promised to in his bible.*

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 3:44:46 PM8/31/02
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"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
> > When did you start transporting entire global populations instantly?
>
> actually, I moved the planet (I tried my teleporter but it still didnt
work so
> I just used God's computer to relocate the planet Earth and the Sun to a
> different location and put a black hole right next to each StarSat)

Actually Z yer not aloud to use God or anything that he owns that would
give you the power he wields. Which is not by the way a computer! you have
to accept defeat when you are beaten and move on.

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 31, 2002, 4:10:39 PM8/31/02
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>"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
>> > When did you start transporting entire global populations instantly?
>>
>> actually, I moved the planet (I tried my teleporter but it still didnt
>work so
>> I just used God's computer to relocate the planet Earth and the Sun to a
>> different location and put a black hole right next to each StarSat)
>
>Actually Z yer not aloud to use God or anything that he owns that would
>give you the power he wields. Which is not by the way a computer! you have
>to accept defeat when you are beaten and move on.


I will not lose the new planet Earth!
*charges up and creates a force-field around the new Earth with all his power
then has some Speed Type clones quickly build maintainer buildings around the
new Earth to maintain that force field*

yes, now I have classified all my clones in types (like soldiers)
*has the Speed Type clones get started on building Zeruel's bases all around
the Earth then has his right hand man carry the worn down Zeruel to his perfect
world*

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 31, 2002, 4:48:39 PM8/31/02
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>"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
>> > *Gives the command to open fire and two hundred sats open their
>portals,
>> > 200 flares generated from the cores of the largest most dense stars
>> > envelop the planet. Everything on the surface is vaporized, in cluding
>> > most of the crust. As the Mantle is exposed a nice glow stars to
>eminate
>> > from the now blasted planet*
>>
>> ...
>> *God sees this and after sighing he recreates the Earth exactly as it
>was and
>> removes those StarSats that are around it and erases everyone's memory*
>
>*200 Star Sats appear as the time line starts to move again*
>
>*Disaster Gives the command to open fire and two hundred sats open their
>portals, 200 flares generated from the cores of the largest most dense
>stars envelop the planet. Everything on the surface is vaporized,
>including most of the crust. As the Mantle is exposed a nice glow stars to
>eminate from the now blasted planet*
>
>*Gods looks about, decides that this isn't his mess and settles in to
>watch the show deciding that he will no longer interfere with the actions
>of mortals any more then promised to in his bible.*

*zeruel gives up and simply moves him and all his technology from his perfect
world onto an alternate dimension Earth and starts rebuilding*

Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 5:26:10 PM8/31/02
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Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:

> "Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> > Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > > As all genius has been proven wrong before we could say that you could
> > > also be wrong. It is concievable that we will one day get an accurate
> > > model of the laws of physics.
> >
> > Exactly. I knew this will come - but it does not render black holes being
> > sucked into a Dirac see impossible.
> >
> > Well, even I don't think it would work, but where should I know?
>
> From what we have seen it is conceivable that a Dirac Sea and Black hole
> would more or less ignore each other. The question is does the effect of
> the Black hole transfer through the bored of the sea?

At least according to Anno, Photons don't get through (since the radio
communication cut off). And it wouldn't be black if photons could get
through - which is equivalent to electric and magnetic fields getting
through. But if eletric and magnetic fields don't get through, why
should gravity be able to?

But if you come with this argument: a black hole does not do anything
according to my physical understanding, so "ignoring" might no be the
right term. It's just a singularity, not more and not less. Think about
space being nD embedded in (n+1)D space, where the additional dimension
is energy. Visualize this with n=2: an infinite but bent piece of paper.
Everything on it tends to go down as much as possible - the lower the
level, the lower the energy. A black hole would just be a point where
the paper goes down infinitely. The paper model is not realistic of
course - otherwise the trick with the cork would really work and you
could jam the "black hole" by just putting something in which is too
big.

But: there's no reason why black holes couldn't move, and there's no
reason why a Dirac see couldn't move. So they can (relatively) move
to each other. Theoretically the Dirac sea seen in NGE (which does not
really correspond to the "real" Dirac sea) is just another singularity -
think of the handle of a cup. So the black hole can move "into" the Dirac
sea. *If* *and* *only* *if* it's possible to 'close' a Dirac sea (i.e.
remove the singularity created by it), the black hole's influence can be
reduced to zero.

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So long and thanks for all the fish.

Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 5:30:51 PM8/31/02
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Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:

> "Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> > Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > > It's worth the price!
> >
> > Ceterum censeo animam Vaughni esse reddendam.
>
> You know that's meaningless to me right?

Right, it's gibberish to you. But "RESISTANCE IS USELESS!" - I can
translate it into English: "By the way I think Vaughn's soul should
be given back."

Ceterum censeo Carthagin^Wanimam Vaughni esse delen^Wreddendam.

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exim, Pest, Schweinepest, Lepra, Tod, sendmail.
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Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 5:32:59 PM8/31/02
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.......This isn't your perfect world. This is normal space. I can't get
into your perfect world. It's perfect remember?

Rudolf Polzer

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Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> "Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> > Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > > "Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> > > > *building another computer with parameter similar to God's*
> > >
> > > Can you tell me what they were?
> >
> > They're actually very similar to Deep Thought's. The only difference is
> > that God's computer is highly overclocked and cooled down using liquid
> > hydrogenium, so it can do in some seconds what took Deep Thought millions
> > of years.
>
> I am not aware of the existence of Deep Thought, therefore it does not
> exist.

Leave my signature file alone!

*thinks about making a SQL database out of it*

> > > > *installing a Disaster-safe and Kakarotto-safe operating system on it*
> > >
> > > A PC is never ever safe from a sledgehammer!
> >
> > Not every computer is a PC...
>
> I should have said Computer then! Very well.
>
> A Computer is never ever safe from a sledgehammer!

I've seen one which is.

> > > > *installing pre-SI (that's pre-Windows XP) backup data*
> > >
> > > ................ That's not safe!
> >
> > At least it's more safe than installing Windows XP.
>
> It's worse then XP!

"without Windows XP" is always more secure than "with Windows XP".

> I use an evolved system that started with the MAGI just after 3rd
> Impacts flop. We are confident that it's a secure system, being in a
> perfect world doesn't hurt either!

#ifndef NO_SARCASM
The Titanic was unsinkable.
#endif /* NO_SARCASM */

> > > > Check failed! That means everything's under my control!
> > >
> > > You apparently have a faulty check. For in order to have a "Gods computer"
> > > there must of course be a God.
> >
> > Which is the most unclear thing in the chain. Note that he thinks he
> > doesn't exist after me persuading him of that. But since he's
> > omniscient, if he knows he doesn't exist, he doesn't. But if he
> > doesn't exist, I couldn't have persuaded him of his non-existance.
> > ARGH!!!!
>
> If he thinks that he does not exist then all that he foresees no longer
> has a source hence the disappearance of reality as Kak mentioned.

If mother and father die, do the children? They don't have a source any
more, so according to your argument, they cease to exist. But they
don't. Argument disproved.

> However, as we are still here arguing about it we can deduce that God
> managed to overcome your brainwashing and has recovered nicely.

The left side of the logical implication might be false, therefore you
cannot make any statement about the right side.

Ceterum censeo Carthagin^Wanimam Vaugni esse delen^Wreddendam.

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einfachen Programmen. [Alvar Freude in de.comp.lang.perl.misc]

Disaster

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You can have this planet now. I have what I want from it! Your new self
shall learn to work with my own new self. In the future, you will have to
either surrender to yourself, or die under the combined power of both of
us.

In the meantime......

*Has 800 smaller Global Observation Satellite, or GO-SATs warped into
orbit along side the Star Fires. The GO-SATs start their scanning of the
planet looking for the buildings used to power the shielding about the
planet*

These Satellites are also unmanned but that's not because of the energy
they generate, it's because they are to small. They have minimal weaponry
and it's all normal stuff. Their sole purpose is to provide accurate scans
of targets, if I have to focus Star Fires on a target then normally I
would use 4 of the GO-SATs to provide telemetry. You'll note that there
are 4 times as many GO-SATs. Each Star Fire is surrounded by 4 GO-SATs and
serves to protect them and use them to find and focus on your
constructions.

*200 Star Fires begin they controlled assault upon the shield over the
locations of the buildings used to keep it alive*

The idea is that eventually the shield will break down and when it does,
the energy will course through and vaporize your supports. Don't worry
though, they are not fully opened up. They are maintaining a steady stream
of fire, this way I can keep the main gun open 24/7.

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Aug 31, 2002, 5:47:06 PM8/31/02
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>"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
>> > *200 Star Sats appear as the time line starts to move again*
>> >
>> > *Disaster Gives the command to open fire and two hundred sats open
>their
>> > portals, 200 flares generated from the cores of the largest most dense
>> > stars envelop the planet. Everything on the surface is vaporized,
>> > including most of the crust. As the Mantle is exposed a nice glow
>stars to
>> > eminate from the now blasted planet*
>> >
>> > *Gods looks about, decides that this isn't his mess and settles in to
>> > watch the show deciding that he will no longer interfere with the
>actions
>> > of mortals any more then promised to in his bible.*
>>
>> *zeruel gives up and simply moves him and all his technology from his
>perfect
>> world onto an alternate dimension Earth and starts rebuilding*
>
>.......This isn't your perfect world. This is normal space. I can't get
>into your perfect world. It's perfect remember?

What I mean is I was placed in my perfect world by my right hand man after
trying to save the Earth but after the Earth was destroyed I went to an
alternate dimension Earth to build it like the one you destroyed.

*Zeruel uses all type of clones and androids to take over this new world then
finds out the technology is more advanced and everyone is here, but just acts
different*

*zeruel then sends an android to kidnap his copy and Disaster's copy*

*zeruel analyzes both and discovers that even though they act different they
still have the same brainpower; upon discovering this Z has the Disaster
working for him as a technology
creator and the Zeruel copy as his right hand man*
*as an added precaution Zeruel makes a perfect copy of the Disaster and places
it in his perfect world (Z's perfect world) as a back-up and does the same with
the Zeruel clone*

Rudolf Polzer

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Aug 31, 2002, 5:48:46 PM8/31/02
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Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:

> "Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> > Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > > Errors? Their are fewer errors in destroying something that doesn't exist
> > > then in trying to use it you mental case!
> >
> > No. After destroying what didn't exist there are -1 of them. -1 is not
> > zero, so after that, it does exist. It can only be removed by creating
> > it - if you destroy it, you've got -2 of them which is an even worse
> > inconsistence. The simplest way ou is destroying *all* of them, because
> > this would mean destroying -1 respective -2 of them, and after that there
> > are none (0) left. So one gets into major trouble when destroying what
> > doesn't exist.
> >
> > Using it, however, does just result in noting. It's useless - but it
> > does not create such inconsistencies. It's completely harmless.
>
> Actually as we are using an object with a mass greater then 0 or -1 then
> we can not refer to the situation using the process you described above.
> You can never have -1 or -2 of something regardless of intent. The only
> way you could conceive of -1 or -2 is if you compare one time frame to
> another in which you had 2 of them before and now you have 0. This would
> generate a -2 difference. Which is just as good as saying you have 0 of
> them. Hence the destruction of nothing gives you the same result as the
> destruction of something.

There's a difference between destroying nothing (which subtracts 0 of
the number, having no effect at all) and destroying something that doesn't
exist. Since it is "something", it decreases the count when destroyed.

Good that this scenario cannot occur. You won't find anything that
doesn't exist, therefore you cannot destroy it. It's always ensured that
everything which has been created can only be destroyed once. At least,
if the universe is bug-free.

> However the use of something that doesn't exist is much less then the
> use of something that would have been there!

ACK.

> Hence, it is more useless to try and use something that isn't there then
> it is to destroy it.

You can "try to use something that doesn't exist", but you cannot
"destroy something that doesn't exist". If you add the word "to try",
both are exactly at the same level of uselessness: you'd have to try
forever, and there's nothing more useless than the infinite loop, which
Windows XP can calculate in 30 minutes (Win95 did it in three seconds).
Linux is still unable to finish the endless loop, unless you help by
installing bad memory or a bad processor, so that the endless loop gets
the chance to crash. Deep Thought refused to calculate the endless
loop since he knew it's just a stability and reliability measure, not
more.

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Nigecha dame da. Nigecha dame da. Nigecha dame da. Nigecha dame da...
[Shinji in Neon Genesis Evangelion - english: "I mustn't run away"]

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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*while that force field is wearing down Zeruel sets up his new Hyper Force
Field Generators at various places around the Earth and activates them*
just in case you dont know, alternate dimension you created these (be sure to
thank him)
Here are the stats on them:
Hyper Force Field Generator- this creates a force field thousands of times more
powerful than a normal one; it can withstand many planet destroying blasts and
can even be used as a weapon. It is currently being used to protect the
alternate universe Earth. Can be added to androids.

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 6:15:46 PM8/31/02
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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > > Ceterum censeo animam Vaughni esse reddendam.
> >
> > You know that's meaningless to me right?
>
> Right, it's gibberish to you. But "RESISTANCE IS USELESS!" - I can
> translate it into English: "By the way I think Vaughn's soul should
> be given back."

Oooooh riiiiiiiiight! That's an opinion huh! Yeah I heard about those.

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 6:21:36 PM8/31/02
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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > I am not aware of the existence of Deep Thought, therefore it does not
> > exist.
>
> Leave my signature file alone!

*Blink*
Did I do something to it?

> *thinks about making a SQL database out of it*

....... Of what?

> > I should have said Computer then! Very well.
> >
> > A Computer is never ever safe from a sledgehammer!
>
> I've seen one which is.

You have not seen my sledgehammer!

> > It's worse then XP!
>
> "without Windows XP" is always more secure than "with Windows XP".

You don't know that! You base that on a comparative basis and we can go
anywhere with that.

> > I use an evolved system that started with the MAGI just after 3rd
> > Impacts flop. We are confident that it's a secure system, being in a
> > perfect world doesn't hurt either!
>
> #ifndef NO_SARCASM
> The Titanic was unsinkable.
> #endif /* NO_SARCASM */

....... It wasn't perfect either!

> > If he thinks that he does not exist then all that he foresees no
longer
> > has a source hence the disappearance of reality as Kak mentioned.
>
> If mother and father die, do the children? They don't have a source any
> more, so according to your argument, they cease to exist. But they
> don't. Argument disproved.

We are not talking about a mortal here genius! We are talking about the
being who created the laws of physics. To no longer have the basis of our
existence to loose our foundation.

Rebuttal undermined!

> > However, as we are still here arguing about it we can deduce that God
> > managed to overcome your brainwashing and has recovered nicely.
>
> The left side of the logical implication might be false, therefore you
> cannot make any statement about the right side.

As the right side exists and lives so to must the left!

Disaster

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Aug 31, 2002, 8:02:58 PM8/31/02
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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > Actually as we are using an object with a mass greater then 0 or -1
then
> > we can not refer to the situation using the process you described
above.
> > You can never have -1 or -2 of something regardless of intent. The
only
> > way you could conceive of -1 or -2 is if you compare one time frame to
> > another in which you had 2 of them before and now you have 0. This
would
> > generate a -2 difference. Which is just as good as saying you have 0
of
> > them. Hence the destruction of nothing gives you the same result as
the
> > destruction of something.
>
> There's a difference between destroying nothing (which subtracts 0 of
> the number, having no effect at all) and destroying something that
doesn't
> exist. Since it is "something", it decreases the count when destroyed.

Well, nothing is the same as that which does not exist. There is no
reduction in the number of items being affected here.

> Good that this scenario cannot occur. You won't find anything that
> doesn't exist, therefore you cannot destroy it. It's always ensured that
> everything which has been created can only be destroyed once. At least,
> if the universe is bug-free.

If that's how we are perceiving things then you can't actually destroy
anything.

> > However the use of something that doesn't exist is much less then the
> > use of something that would have been there!
>
> ACK.
>
> > Hence, it is more useless to try and use something that isn't there
then
> > it is to destroy it.
>
> You can "try to use something that doesn't exist", but you cannot
> "destroy something that doesn't exist". If you add the word "to try",
> both are exactly at the same level of uselessness: you'd have to try
> forever, and there's nothing more useless than the infinite loop, which
> Windows XP can calculate in 30 minutes (Win95 did it in three seconds).
> Linux is still unable to finish the endless loop, unless you help by
> installing bad memory or a bad processor, so that the endless loop gets
> the chance to crash. Deep Thought refused to calculate the endless
> loop since he knew it's just a stability and reliability measure, not
> more.

To try is to attempt a result. To destroy is to eliminate a result. As in
the end we still have nothing, to try is more pointless. It's really
simple when you stay on topic.

Disaster

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"Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > From what we have seen it is conceivable that a Dirac Sea and Black
hole
> > would more or less ignore each other. The question is does the effect
of
> > the Black hole transfer through the border of the sea?

>
> At least according to Anno, Photons don't get through (since the radio
> communication cut off). And it wouldn't be black if photons could get
> through - which is equivalent to electric and magnetic fields getting
> through. But if eletric and magnetic fields don't get through, why
> should gravity be able to?

Radio and photons are two different things. Electric and Magnetic fields
are different from photons as well. Gravity is different again. I think of
Gravity as an influence rather then a field of effect even though the
influence seems to radiate out like a field of effect.

> But if you come with this argument: a black hole does not do anything
> according to my physical understanding, so "ignoring" might no be the
> right term. It's just a singularity, not more and not less. Think about
> space being nD embedded in (n+1)D space, where the additional dimension
> is energy. Visualize this with n=2: an infinite but bent piece of paper.
> Everything on it tends to go down as much as possible - the lower the
> level, the lower the energy. A black hole would just be a point where
> the paper goes down infinitely. The paper model is not realistic of
> course - otherwise the trick with the cork would really work and you
> could jam the "black hole" by just putting something in which is too
> big.

Well, that's over my head! As I understand it, a Black hole is a point in
space with a rather high gravity field. One that influences vast areas of
space. The mass is drawn into the hole along a plane much like a galaxy or
solar system rotates around the center along a plane. As the mass collides
and gets sucked into the hole it is spewed out at around the speed of
light effective up and down. These "spews" of mass are known to cross
entire galaxy's in each direction.

> But: there's no reason why black holes couldn't move, and there's no
> reason why a Dirac see couldn't move. So they can (relatively) move
> to each other. Theoretically the Dirac sea seen in NGE (which does not
> really correspond to the "real" Dirac sea) is just another singularity -
> think of the handle of a cup. So the black hole can move "into" the
Dirac
> sea. *If* *and* *only* *if* it's possible to 'close' a Dirac sea (i.e.
> remove the singularity created by it), the black hole's influence can be
> reduced to zero.

I'm not certain what you are saying here.

Disaster

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Hmmm, there is one flaw! I don't build my own technology. It gets done for
me. I ask the Tech department to do something and they do it or get
"replaced!"

So let me get this right, you went to an alternate dimension to find
yourself a version of me and you? Right now you have my counter part Z,
you don't got me and if his brain power is only equal to mine you are
never gonna get my tech.

Disaster

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*Chuckle*
I see, the stupid version of me that has not spent 5 years developing
technology? I'd double check those systems Z, good chance they are just
gonna overload if they do anything at all. I played with that kind of
technology before, shielding designed to resist mass and energy is not
safe. They have a tendency to carry the load of the assault and if they
don't get the cooling required they blow and when they blow they tend to
release all the energy they were holding back. I lost 48 fleets and a
planet once. I didn't even have Star Fires then to test them with.

Your current shield doesn't show to many signs of weakening. It's very
stable for now. But by the time your support structures fail they are
gonna take out the surface all by themselves! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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But the alternate Earth I went to is more advanced than the one I was
originally from

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Well, the shielding comes from 3 sources (one of which has cooling systems,
another has shielding, and one doesnt need one): 3 nuclear power plants hooked
up to each hyper force field generator, 1 S2 organ, and a bunch of satellites
which use energy from a star (basically, it transports the energy from the
WHOLE STAR to the outside of the field, thus creating the hyper force field.)
It can also be set on 'receive' mode, where if energy is being fired upon it,
it can use that energy in the field.
Dont worry, this wont overheat; it uses the same logic and technology as those
StarSats, except that it uses energy from the whole star (but not all at once;
that'd be stupid)
and yes, I did thorough testing on this in other alternate dimensions

here's how it works:
Layer one (the star energy):
several satellites right above the Earth's atmosphere create a field around the
Earth using the energy from a star (dont even try blowing these up; they creat
the layer above them, which means you cant hit them)

Layer two: three nuclear power plants hooked up to another generator create
this field of energy (also protects from the heat of layer one)

Layer three: an S2 organ hooked up to a force field device creates this layer
(also protects from layer one)

all righty, now down to business
*pushes a button and moments later one of Zeruel's space colonies starts
shifting into a ball of metal and wire and pipe; then the upper body of Devil
gundam appears on the ball and goes into the ball*
*the Devil Gundam ball flies toward one of the StarSats*
*the Devil Gundam ball easily overtakes the 2 GO-SATS protecting that StarSat
and absorbs them into itself*
*upon reaching it, the ball hits the shield and starts absorbing the energy
from it and evolving*
*Zeruel then sends out several androids from the space colonies*
*androids arrive at the StarSat Devil Gundam is trying to take over. All of
them take out guns equipped with planet oscilating bullets and begin firing on
the shield to weaken it (planet oscilating bullets are basically bullets that
each have the power to vaporize a planet). Soon the shield weakens and Devil
Gundam absorbs the rest of the energy then breaks through and attaches itself
to the back of the StarSat and begins absorbing it. After absorbing it, Devil
Gundam uses the weapon on the absorbed StarSat against the other StarSats and
GO-SATS and takes them out one at a time while androids weaken them with planet
oscilating bullets*
*then, to keep Disaster from teleporting it into a star or something, Devil
Gundam and all the androids activate their anti transport devices*
the anti transport device prevents the wearer from being teleported in any way
by creating a field around it that blocks teleporters (and they've even been
tuned to block your DSE engine)
*zeruel then sees that there are no StarSats left and opens a hole in the hyper
force field and allows Devil Gundam to enter then closes the hole quickly after
it enters*

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Sep 1, 2002, 12:19:01 PM9/1/02
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*sets layer one of the hyper force field generator to convert that heat to
energy since it's over 100 degrees on Earth*

Disaster

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Sep 1, 2002, 4:36:02 PM9/1/02
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Then they would never have let you get away with there people! Besides,
technological advancement is not logical as we are all running along the
same time scale. It would be almost impossible for any parallel quantum to
be more advanced then us. It wouldn't be very parallel then.

Disaster

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Sep 1, 2002, 5:08:12 PM9/1/02
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*Chuckle*
More like your planet has been turned into a small body of gas! But fear
not your enemy came to your rescue....... yeah!

Disaster

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"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
> Well, the shielding comes from 3 sources (one of which has cooling
systems,
> another has shielding, and one doesnt need one): 3 nuclear power plants
hooked
> up to each hyper force field generator, 1 S2 organ, and a bunch of
satellites
> which use energy from a star (basically, it transports the energy from
the
> WHOLE STAR to the outside of the field, thus creating the hyper force
field.)
> It can also be set on 'receive' mode, where if energy is being fired
upon it,
> it can use that energy in the field.

Only one has a cooling system? A WHOLE star? So what yer saying is that
you have bascially transported an entire star here, meaning that we have
been vaporized by the thing. You got Satellites as well now?

*Has several Star Fires vaporize your satellites before they destroy the
planet*

Note that regardless if you absorbe the energy or resist it the pressure
still builds up in your system somewhere. If you receive then you have to
buffer that energy somewhere! Normally as heat in your supports.

I can't believe that you would use an entire star at once! You have an
immense amount of energy, one star could power DSE for billions of years.
You obviously do not realise what you are dealing with.

> Dont worry, this wont overheat; it uses the same logic and technology as
those
> StarSats, except that it uses energy from the whole star (but not all at
once;
> that'd be stupid)
> and yes, I did thorough testing on this in other alternate dimensions

You idiot! All of the Star Fires use huge cooling systems, several of them
and they are still unmanned because of the heat and radiation.

Don't bring more Satellites in either! I won't let you add this planet to
the stars mass.

> here's how it works:
> Layer one (the star energy):
> several satellites right above the Earth's atmosphere create a field
around the
> Earth using the energy from a star (dont even try blowing these up; they
creat
> the layer above them, which means you cant hit them)

You have to get them there and set up first! You can thank me for
destroying them later!

> Layer two: three nuclear power plants hooked up to another generator
create
> this field of energy (also protects from the heat of layer one)

LOL
Not really! You seriously expect 3 nuclear plants to generate enough power
to generate a shield capable of defending against an entire star?

> Layer three: an S2 organ hooked up to a force field device creates this
layer
> (also protects from layer one)

That's the first logical technological declaration you've made yet! And I
would actually consider it within your grasp as it's organic. Which, I
might add is the only thing you have any experience with.

> all righty, now down to business
> *pushes a button and moments later one of Zeruel's space colonies starts
> shifting into a ball of metal and wire and pipe; then the upper body of
Devil
> gundam appears on the ball and goes into the ball*
> *the Devil Gundam ball flies toward one of the StarSats*
> *the Devil Gundam ball easily overtakes the 2 GO-SATS protecting that
StarSat
> and absorbs them into itself*

Okay, besides the fact that it would have been wiped out by your outer
shield had I not blasted it's supports before you got them set up, the
GO-SATs aim, The Star Fires protect, you may have gotten 2 of them but the
other two are still there, not to mention the other 798 around the other
Star Fires. The shield is not made of energy but a shift in phase.

*As you Gundam attempts to get through the phase (kinda like rolling a
ball up stairs without touching it) the Star Fire opens up it's main gun
exposing the Gundam to the environment of the core of a neutron. As the
portal closes no trace of the Gundam is left, except if you scan for extra
basic elements.*

> *Zeruel then sends out several androids from the space colonies*
> *androids arrive at the StarSat Devil Gundam is trying to take over. All
of
> them take out guns equipped with planet oscilating bullets and begin
firing on
> the shield to weaken it (planet oscilating bullets are basically bullets
that
> each have the power to vaporize a planet). Soon the shield weakens and
Devil
> Gundam absorbs the rest of the energy then breaks through and attaches
itself
> to the back of the StarSat and begins absorbing it. After absorbing it,
Devil
> Gundam uses the weapon on the absorbed StarSat against the other
StarSats and
> GO-SATS and takes them out one at a time while androids weaken them with
planet
> oscilating bullets*

That's nice but the shielding doesn't use energy to resist. It doesn't get
weaker, you either know the Phase and shift yourself through it or you
bounce! There's no violent reaction at all! It's genius! So you have lost
one Gundam and a few of your androids are making themselves targets for
the other 199 Star Fires.

> *then, to keep Disaster from teleporting it into a star or something,
Devil
> Gundam and all the androids activate their anti transport devices*

*Evil grin*

> the anti transport device prevents the wearer from being teleported in
any way
> by creating a field around it that blocks teleporters (and they've even
been
> tuned to block your DSE engine)

*Evil grin no problem*

> *zeruel then sees that there are no StarSats left and opens a hole in
the hyper
> force field and allows Devil Gundam to enter then closes the hole
quickly after
> it enters*

Well. no, yer gundam is dead and you don't have that shield, for your
protection of course.

*The original Star Fires auxiliary portals open up on the androids wiping
them away as easily as the main portal did with the Gundam.*

Hmmmm, I guess I won't have to address the anti transport device things.
That's good, because I can bring an tire star here just as easily as I can
take you to the star. Of course that would mean destroying the planet...
again, right after I saved it. *Shrug* Such is play!

You got some half decent ideas, I'll leave my Sats here to play. If you
like I'll even have some of my staff portal into your base and set up an
auxillery phase engine. It's not the actual deal but it gives a little
support to the engines back at HQ. It can shift your planet out of phase
enough to keep it safe from cross-fire! You'll note that you lost a lot of
forest when yer Gundam was vaporized.

*A distortion over the north pole of the planet results to the appearance
of a large disk like structure. A DSE High Orbital HQ floats over the
planet*

(I'll write details up for this later, suffice it to say that it's no Star
Fire when it comes to weapons but it can train 20 weapons in any direction
and these are space station sized weapons)

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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*shrug*
guess I have to recalculate and build another Devil Gundam
*begins work on the new Devil Gundam in a colony that is cloaked from any type
of scan using Hyper Jammers (not even a camera can see it)*
and the anti teleport device is on that colony and is already activated so dont
even think about it (it blocks ANY kind of instant transfer other than walking,
running, flying, etc. by creating a field that protects the atoms from being
disassembled and reassembled somewhere else and disrupts the mechanism causing
the transfer thus keeps the things from being teleported)
not to mention that if you cant find the colony, surely you cant teleport it;
the hyper jammers block ANY mechanical scanning device, even a camera

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Sep 1, 2002, 5:45:58 PM9/1/02
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*during initial testing, Isreal sinks into a Dirac Sea*
Zeruel: <_< >_> ok, that did not just happen.
Alternate Disaster: 9_9
*upon further testing a phase shift appears in America somewhere*
*Zeruel and Alt. Disaster study the phase shift carefully and try different
things on it*
*Zeruel then accidently collapses the phase shift and whatever it was encasing
when he tries to close it*
Zeruel: Hmmm....*gets an evil look in his eyes* >:)

Disaster

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The system I uses bends space and time and whatever else and warps it
around the subject, it doesn't take the subject and disassemble it at all.
This is why I am unconcerned with your jammers. You are using the wrong
technology. Which is also why I won't be able to find your base. You have
those cloak things going if your jammers instead reinforced space around
your position to the point where the engines couldn't warp it, then it
would be an easy matter of warping space along the surface of the planet
until I found a location that wouldn't bend. Then I'd just fire on that
location.

However, if you work on modifying the jammers to strengthen the particle
bond within it's area of influence you might reduce the effect of the
Particle Destabilizers. This would mean that when you attack someone armed
with a PD you might live long enough to shoot back.

In the mean time!

*Sub Trans-Spatial Delivery Engines (DEL-ENGINE) from the High Orbital HQ
(HO-HQ) start warping Electronic Counter Measures Shells (ECM-SHELL) onto
random locations on the planet*

We'll just wait and see if anything turns up. You know what these do
right? Right now they expose parts of your base if they happen to be
within range. That's the only problem though, range is somewhat limited.
Could take several years to find you. But hey, might get lucky.

Disaster

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Sep 1, 2002, 10:29:25 PM9/1/02
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*Sighs*
That was a spatial bubble not a phase. You can't study phase's, anything
your throw at them in the way of scanning simply reflects and you end up
scanning your self. When you get that then you know yer at least on track.
I thought that we determined that in order for my alternate counter part
to be smart enough to help you that his society would not have let you
take him!?

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Hah! My base exists in a sub dimension kinda like Washu's laboratory in the
closet in Tenchi Muyo. This means that it is hooked up to a door where if me or
one of my personnel opens it, they get to my base, but if you open it you just
get to whatever that door leads to. I have also reengineered my anti teleport
device to reinforce space around the object that wears them and put them all
across the planet and I have made the door leading to my base a top secret
(you'll never find it!) because I have put hyper jammers around to keep your
radar from picking up the location of said door; I have also put hyper jammers
in other random locations to confuse you

Disaster

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It's amazing how you seem to have these technological jumps every time I
open my mouth! By the way, if your Alt Disaster really is like me, then
he'll be screwing your plans up! Since when did you have sub-quantum
technology? It takes 2 years to develop spatial warps never mind
everything else. Look, it's cute that you idolize me and my technology but
I've grown bored.

*All satellites in orbit suddenly vanish, a few moments later the HO-HQ
follows.*

*Back in the DSE Geo-Front, the Engines start heating up they begin a rift
between the planet and it's sun. Effectively reducing the distance between
the two to 200 Km's. As the rift gets bigger the planet starts to heat and
burn.*

That will get bigger and bigger. Eventually it'll grow to the size of the
star's width. If you want out just shout! It'll mean being my prisoner of
course! Yes in my perfect world so you knwo there'll be no escape. But you
won't stay long, it's part of the perfect world, my enemies don't live
long. You'll either have to submit or leave!

*GO-SAT warps back into orbit on the far side from the sun. Using it's
Maneuvering jets to stay in position it awaits your response.*

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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*Zeruel then tears a hole in the dimensional fabric and goes to another Earth
and takes all his technology with him but leaves behind 2 space colonies*
*upon arriving Zeruel creates a phase shift around the whole planet, puts a
force field up, hides the planet with Hyper Jammers, moves the position of the
planet, then puts the modified anti teleport devices on the planet and all
across the galaxy and even puts one on himself*

Give up Disaster; every time you blow up an Earth you know I'm going to go to a
new one
*goes to his perfect world and lets the clones and Androids build the bases on
the new Earth*

Disaster

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Sep 2, 2002, 3:27:57 PM9/2/02
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Keep dreaming Z. You use my technology, tools that I have developed over
years, you expect to know how to use in a few days. That's not how it
works. You started off with one angle and now you are adopting mine! You
are stealing my ideas! How does this translate into anything but victory
for me? You know how large the Engines are back at HQ? How long they have
been improved on? You seriously think that can't I track you through your
quantum jumps? Ignore the fact that you have no way of making them.
Further I defeated those Jammers 3 years ago, thanks for changing your
technology to suit! Next time use your own ideas, they'll be less
vulnerable to sabotage. I established 5 years ago that I got copyright on
all this! :P

*Watches as the original planet becomes a burned husk then has the rift
closed.*

*Warps his HO-HQ over the planet occupied by Z. Tracking his jammer signal
which he has so pleasantly provided, Z is warped into a Sub-Quantum of the
DSE perfect world, something created and maintained by the DSE Engines. A
blank environment, you float with no point of reference, nothing to stand
on, just a constant grey with an atmosphere similar to earth.*

Now you have nothing, you latest home has been toasted as well. You have
no way to contact your forces, nothing to use to get out! You are naked
and in a universe with no way out. Your only salvation is myself! No one
knows you are here, no one can come for you, this is part of my perfect
world, you are completely at my mercy and you want to know why? Because
you used my stuff! The only reason you failed is because you thought that
you could out smart me with my own stuff! Stuff that I have spent learning
and developing! I don't just have tools Z, they are processes that DSE has
learnt and understands. We didn't stumble over this technology, we were
not given it, we didn't steal it, we made it. We educated ourselves.

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Fine, let me out and I'll develop my own technology to use from now on (the
original stuff I was using was put into a text document which was purposely
created BEFORE I went to your site; if you want I can list the ORIGINAL items
so you can see how I came up with them

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Sorry for doing this also. My mind was busy with college-level homework

Disaster

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Why would I let you out? You are not the first person I have imprisoned. I
don't care about your original list. That's old stuff. Oh I know you'll
have to start there! What I want is to help. Let me provide you with an
escort to get you started. they can help you document and record
everything you do. DSE Security is very interested in the technological
paths you choose to make.

Of course it would require that you accept the implantation of a special
VCI unit that would be built just for you!

Disaster

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Sep 2, 2002, 9:26:09 PM9/2/02
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Sorry? Pfft, I don't mind winning! :P

Vaughn L.Porter

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Rudolf Polzer <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote in message
news:slrnan2dcb.hr8.Ant...@www42.durchnull.de...
> Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:

> > "Rudolf Polzer" <AntiATFiel...@durchnull.de> wrote:
> > > Scripsit illud Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net>:
> > > > It's worth the price!

> > >
> > > Ceterum censeo animam Vaughni esse reddendam.
> >
> > You know that's meaningless to me right?
>
> Right, it's gibberish to you. But "RESISTANCE IS USELESS!" - I can
> translate it into English: "By the way I think Vaughn's soul should
> be given back."
>
> Ceterum censeo Carthagin^Wanimam Vaughni esse delen^Wreddendam.

Danke, Rudolf. Nice to know I'm getting someone's support.

Vaughn L.Porter
Everyone! Join the 'Give Vaughn his soul back' club!

Vaughn L.Porter

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Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:un2n226...@corp.supernews.com...

So, is that where I work, now?

Vaughn L.Porter
*Illpulazo asks,"Are you going, Hyatt?"*

Vaughn L.Porter

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Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:un271h6...@corp.supernews.com...

> "Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
> > > *Gives the command to open fire and two hundred sats open their
> portals,
> > > 200 flares generated from the cores of the largest most dense stars
> > > envelop the planet. Everything on the surface is vaporized, in cluding
> > > most of the crust. As the Mantle is exposed a nice glow stars to
> eminate
> > > from the now blasted planet*
> >
> > ...
> > *God sees this and after sighing he recreates the Earth exactly as it
> was and
> > removes those StarSats that are around it and erases everyone's memory*
>
> *200 Star Sats appear as the time line starts to move again*
>
> *Disaster Gives the command to open fire and two hundred sats open their
> portals, 200 flares generated from the cores of the largest most dense
> stars envelop the planet. Everything on the surface is vaporized,
> including most of the crust. As the Mantle is exposed a nice glow stars to
> eminate from the now blasted planet*
>
> *Gods looks about, decides that this isn't his mess and settles in to
> watch the show deciding that he will no longer interfere with the actions
> of mortals any more then promised to in his bible.*
> --

*The Great Will of the Macrocosum(sp), after finishing having her way with
Mr.Pedro (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!), recreates all of existance. A few seconds
later, at ACROSS HQ, Excel Excel is ordered by Lord Illpulazo(sp) to seek
out and destroy Disaster and Zeruel333, as they are base and vulgar, and
there is no place for them in the grand scheme of ACROSS's plans for
(eventual) world domination. So There.*

Vaughn L.Porter
*And Hyatt is to liberate my soul.*

Vaughn L.Porter

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Zeruel333 The Hentai One <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote in message
news:20020831123655...@mb-ce.aol.com...

> >"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
> >> ...
> >> *transports everyone and everything off the planet to an unknown
> >location*
> >> there, have fun destroying the planet
> >
> >When did you start transporting entire global populations instantly?
>
> actually, I moved the planet (I tried my teleporter but it still didnt
work so
> I just used God's computer to relocate the planet Earth and the Sun to a
> different location and put a black hole right next to each StarSat)

How'd you break into the Yggdrasil system? *GASP* You Fiend! What Have You
Done to Belldandy!!!!!!

Vaughn L.Porter
*Hyatt crawls slowly toward the portal
linking ACROSS HQ with the DSE*

Disaster

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"Vaughn L.Porter" <vau...@pcez.com> wrote:
> *The Great Will of the Macrocosum(sp), after finishing having her way
with
> Mr.Pedro (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!), recreates all of existance. A few
seconds
> later, at ACROSS HQ, Excel Excel is ordered by Lord Illpulazo(sp) to
seek
> out and destroy Disaster and Zeruel333, as they are base and vulgar, and
> there is no place for them in the grand scheme of ACROSS's plans for
> (eventual) world domination. So There.*
>
> Vaughn L.Porter
> *And Hyatt is to liberate my soul.*

Pfft, DSE and ACROSS are currently working together to destroy most of
existence!

Disaster

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"Vaughn L.Porter" <vau...@pcez.com> wrote:
> How'd you break into the Yggdrasil system? *GASP* You Fiend! What Have
You
> Done to Belldandy!!!!!!
>
> Vaughn L.Porter
> *Hyatt crawls slowly toward the portal
> linking ACROSS HQ with the DSE*

Don't give him ideas! That's my job!

*Watches Hyatt crawl toward his portal with mixed feelings*
I know she's coming to get his soul back but she's sooooo cute! Yet she is
an ACROSS agent, do I really want her in my perfect world?
ImeanIknowit'sperfectbutthisisHyatt,ExcelmightbebehindherOrinfront,tolefto
rtherightormaybeevendiagonallytoapositiveZaxisalignment.
*gasp*

That's it! I don't want her in. You can have your soul back but no ACROSS
agent gets into the DSE Geo-Front!

*Shut down the Portal to ACROSS HQ and has V's soul inserted back into his
new body before being released*

Your new mission is to act as ambassador to ACROSS. Otherwise I will
destroy them. Believe me, no crazy sexy babe or dude with a magic afro is
gonna stop DSE forces.

Rudolf Polzer

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Sep 3, 2002, 4:17:53 AM9/3/02
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Scripsit ille Vaughn L.Porter <vau...@pcez.com>:

It's really hard to type if one knows the sentence by Cato.
But I'm trying. It worked out for Cato, so why shouldn't it work out for
you?

Ceterum censeo Carthagin^Wanimam Vaughni esse delen^Wreddendam.

--
[mpg123d] Just playing: .../albums/vintage/a/17 Kimi no Answer.mp3
Desweiteren fiel mir auf, das die Kommandozeile immer statt '?' ein
Fragezeichen generierte.
[Da_David in t-online.homepage.technik; OE hat mal wieder versagt]

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Sep 3, 2002, 6:19:54 AM9/3/02
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heh heh heh!
Hahahahaha!
*charges his body full of energy*
I have prepared for a moment when either I would die or be imprisoned!
Right before I was about to go into that fight with your Lancers I worked to
make a backup of myself. I created a code technique that allowed me to bury my
memory, body construction, and everything else about me in air molecules. If
anything happened they'd be available. If my active body does die or go
somewhere out of contact, nano network machines immediately start to restore my
body to perfection in my perfect world!
You havent won yet!
*Zeruel self destructs and destroys every molecule of his body*
(even if I couldnt charge my body full of energy I can still self destruct)
*in Zeruel's perfect world a new Zeruel is created*
Ah that's better. Now down to business!
*Zeruel then starts 5 new type clones in the processing tanks to be created*
>:)

Kakarotto

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Sep 3, 2002, 7:37:53 AM9/3/02
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"If you blue and you don't know where to go to, why don't you go where
fashion sits..... putting on the Ritz.
Different types of wear a day coat pants with stripes and cut away, coat
perfect fits..... putting on the Ritz.

Dressed up like a million dollar trooper, trying hard to look like Gary
Cooper..... Super Dooper.
Come lets mix where Rockafellas walk with sticks or *umbarellas* in their
mits..... putting on the Ritz.
Have you seen the world to do, up and down park avenue, on that famous
thoroughfare, with their noses in the air.
High hats and arrow collars, white spats and lots of dollars. Spending every
dime, for a wonderful time.

If you blue and you don't know where to go to, why don't you go where
fashion sits..... putting on the Ritz.
Different types of wear a day coat pants with stripes and cut away, coat
perfect fits..... putting on the Ritz.

Dressed up like a million dollar trooper, trying hard to look like Gary
Cooper..... Super Dooper.
Come lets mix where Rockafellas walk with sticks or *umbarellas* in their
mits..... putting on the Ritz.

Dressed up like a million dollar trooper, trying hard to look like Gary
Cooper..... Super Dooper.

If you blue and you don't know where to go to, why don't you go where
fashion sits..... putting on the Ritz.
Different types of wear a day coat pants with stripes and cut away, coat
perfect fits..... putting on the Ritz, putting on the Ritz, putting on the
Ritz, putting on the Ritz.

(Down-town, Up-town, Get your kicks at the Ritz.)
(Dine 'n' wine, but not 'til nine, the time is right for us to tonight)
(We can move, move to the rhythm, you can)

(Move...dance to the rhythm, nice and easy)

(I wantcha to move)

(Puttin' it on, puttin' it on, puttin' it on, puttin' it on the R - I -T -
Z, how 'bout you and me, says)

(Gotta dance...) (Gotta dance)

(If you're blue and you don't know where to go to why don't you go where
fashion sits)
(Putting on the Ritz...) "


"Unnecessary violence in the apprehension of The Blues Brothers has been
approved."
"If you Build it they will come"
"Some mother fuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill"

Kakarotto

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Go figure.


Disaster

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Sep 3, 2002, 8:11:08 PM9/3/02
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You killed yourself because you are imprisoned? Might as well have I
suppose, your perfect world couldn't see you anyhow it would have built
your new body and you'd have to compete with yourself.

*Collapses the quantum pocket*

I'll remember that next time! By the way, you don't need nanotech to do
what you did! Yes Nanotech is used by DSE too! :P The bio-equivalent I
guess would be viruses.

Disaster

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"Kakarotto" <kaka...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> Go figure.

*Wakes up, blinks*

I miss something?

Vaughn L.Porter

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Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:un8l2p...@corp.supernews.com...

> "Vaughn L.Porter" <vau...@pcez.com> wrote:
> > *The Great Will of the Macrocosum(sp), after finishing having her way
> with
> > Mr.Pedro (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!), recreates all of existance. A few
> seconds
> > later, at ACROSS HQ, Excel Excel is ordered by Lord Illpulazo(sp) to
> seek
> > out and destroy Disaster and Zeruel333, as they are base and vulgar, and
> > there is no place for them in the grand scheme of ACROSS's plans for
> > (eventual) world domination. So There.*
> >
> > Vaughn L.Porter
> > *And Hyatt is to liberate my soul.*
>
> Pfft, DSE and ACROSS are currently working together to destroy most of
> existence!
> --

Fine, they're after Zeruel, then.

Vaughn L.Porter
*Excel wispers;"AH! Hentai collections! The fiend is
near!"*


Vaughn L.Porter

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Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:un8lhp8...@corp.supernews.com...

> "Vaughn L.Porter" <vau...@pcez.com> wrote:
> > How'd you break into the Yggdrasil system? *GASP* You Fiend! What Have
> You
> > Done to Belldandy!!!!!!
> >
> > Vaughn L.Porter
> > *Hyatt crawls slowly toward the portal
> > linking ACROSS HQ with the DSE*
>
> Don't give him ideas! That's my job!
>
> *Watches Hyatt crawl toward his portal with mixed feelings*
> I know she's coming to get his soul back but she's sooooo cute! Yet she is
> an ACROSS agent, do I really want her in my perfect world?
> ImeanIknowit'sperfectbutthisisHyatt,ExcelmightbebehindherOrinfront,tolefto
> rtherightormaybeevendiagonallytoapositiveZaxisalignment.
> *gasp*
>
> That's it! I don't want her in. You can have your soul back but no ACROSS
> agent gets into the DSE Geo-Front!
>
> *Shut down the Portal to ACROSS HQ and has V's soul inserted back into his
> new body before being released*
>
> Your new mission is to act as ambassador to ACROSS. Otherwise I will
> destroy them. Believe me, no crazy sexy babe or dude with a magic afro is
> gonna stop DSE forces.
> --

Ok. So, what do you want Excel and Nabeshin to do to Zeruel that he hasn't
already done to himself?

Vaughn L.Porter
Bow to the Avatar
That is Disaster...HEY!

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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*upon hearing that he's being sought after, Zeruel (in his perfect world) goes
through his types of clones to figure out the best one to destroy them*

Zeruel333 The Hentai One

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Sep 4, 2002, 11:40:10 AM9/4/02
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*looks at schedule*
Yes!! In aproximately 3 hours one new type of clones will finish in the
processing tanks! Another type will finish in about 25 hours!
Hmm....the speed type clones will have the new devices for me ahead of
schedule, as usual; I cant wait to use them! *evil grin*
>:)

Disaster

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Sep 4, 2002, 7:18:04 PM9/4/02
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"Vaughn L.Porter" <vau...@pcez.com> wrote:

> Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net> wrote:
> Fine, they're after Zeruel, then.
>
> Vaughn L.Porter
> *Excel wispers;"AH! Hentai collections! The fiend is near!"*

*DSE Security agent standing behind Zeruel with knife held high twitches*

Agent growls: "Yer not suppose to speak when were right behind him."

Rudolf Polzer

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Sep 4, 2002, 7:27:01 PM9/4/02
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Scripsit ille Vaughn L.Porter <vau...@pcez.com>:
> Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:un8l2p...@corp.supernews.com...
> > "Vaughn L.Porter" <vau...@pcez.com> wrote:
> > > *The Great Will of the Macrocosum(sp), after finishing having her way with
> > > Mr.Pedro (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!), recreates all of existance. A few seconds
> > > later, at ACROSS HQ, Excel Excel is ordered by Lord Illpulazo(sp) to seek
> > > out and destroy Disaster and Zeruel333, as they are base and vulgar, and
> > > there is no place for them in the grand scheme of ACROSS's plans for
> > > (eventual) world domination. So There.*
> >
> > Pfft, DSE and ACROSS are currently working together to destroy most of
> > existence!
> > --
>
> Fine, they're after Zeruel, then.
>
> Vaughn L.Porter
> *Excel wispers;"AH! Hentai collections! The fiend is near!"*

You forgot asking for your soul. You'll never get it if you don't try.
Lose, lose.

At least my Disastrogram generator is still there...


--
So I guess all I have.
Rei 48: *Roll's her eyes* Rei 01: Unfortunately, being a little harsh?

CETERUM CENSEO ANIMAM VAUGHNI/AE(?) ESSE REDDENDAM.

Disaster

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"Zeruel333 The Hentai One" <zeru...@aol.comanimefan> wrote:
> > Disaster <disa...@disfanfic.NOSPAM.net> wrote:

> > > "Vaughn L.Porter" <vau...@pcez.com> wrote:
> > > Pfft, DSE and ACROSS are currently working together to destroy most
of
> > > existence!
> >
> > Fine, they're after Zeruel, then.
> >
> > Vaughn L.Porter
> > *Excel wispers;"AH! Hentai collections! The fiend is near!"*
>
> *upon hearing that he's being sought after, Zeruel (in his perfect
world) goes
> through his types of clones to figure out the best one to destroy them*

*Back at ACROSS head quarters*

DSE Agent (To Ilpalazzo): Lord Ilpalazzo, is she always like this? We were
right behind him and she suggested that we were getting close! My knife
was inches from his neck, it was a done deal!!! *twitch*

Lord Ilpalazzo: I'm certain it couldn't be that bad!

DSE Agent: ........ I have to go! I got vacation time coming and I don't
want to be dead for it! The next DSE assassin has a family anyway, he'll
be glad to risk it all. I'm still single! *Singles his request to return
to DSE HQ and a moment later space warps and he is gone*

Excel (Staring at the space where the Agent was): He... uh, he? He
disappearedmygodwehavetogetoneofthosewecouAHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhh........
......

Lord Ilpalazzo: ..................... *Lets go of the rope* Why did I
hirer her?

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