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MBVA
people's posts here talking about, was rei and angel, and in the movie they
said lilans were the 18th angel. but aren't angels just beings created by
god sent down to bring upon third impact, ending life because he was bored
with his little experiment and wanted to turn off the power switch?
also, what's the difference of third impact as opposed to human
instrumentality? in both scenarios humans die in that they lose their
physical form. and if why did seele want third impact to be created by evas
instead of by the angels? also how did making adam into an embryo again
prevent a possibly larger danger?
one more thing. in the death and rebirth, when unit two is activated and
they find out its unmanned, misato says "that means ritsko is...." what did
she mean?
Rudolf Polzer
> i know you must get asked this a lot, but what are the angels?
Simple question, simple answer: those which are called like that.
There's a finite list of them. The problem is that there's not exactly
one list.
> i'm reading people's posts here talking about, was rei and angel, and
> in the movie they said lilans were the 18th angel.
Not really. Humanity, seen as a whole, is the 18th.
> but aren't angels just beings created by god sent down to bring upon
> third impact,
Humanity is the same.
> ending life because he was bored with his little experiment and wanted
> to turn off the power switch?
We don't really know about SEELE's motives. Maybe... but I rather think
SEELE didn't want to turn off the power switch (if they did, why didn't
they just let someone else do it?) but instead get the power.
> also, what's the difference of third impact as opposed to human
> instrumentality?
There is none. Nearly none.
> in both scenarios humans die in that they lose their physical form.
> and if why did seele want third impact to be created by evas instead
> of by the angels?
*THAT* is the difference. Obviously SEELE wanted some influence to the
TI. Gendou also did. But they didn't want the same.
Interesting question: what would Gendou do if he hadn't lost Yui?
Probably he'd have been clearer about him not wanting SEELE's scenario
to occur. He probably would oppose Instrumentality and would have been
kicked out by SEELE.
> also how did making adam into an embryo again
> prevent a possibly larger danger?
No idea. At least it stopped Adam...
> one more thing. in the death and rebirth, when unit two is activated
> and they find out its unmanned, misato says "that means ritsko is...."
> what did she mean?
Obviously Ritsuko does know more than Misato does. And Misato notices
that some information is being hidden from her.
There are many other scenes of this sort.
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MBVA
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Frank White
bob...@optushome.com.au says...
>
>i know you must get asked this a lot, but what are the angels? i'm reading
>people's posts here talking about, was rei and angel, and in the movie they
>said lilans were the 18th angel. but aren't angels just beings created by
>god sent down to bring upon third impact, ending life because he was bored
>with his little experiment and wanted to turn off the power switch?
We don't see God in NGE. It's a little hard to tell what He wants.
The best idea seems to be that Angels are something different
than humanity, another evolutionary path related to us but
separate. They are no more the direct creation of God than
humanity is.
>also, what's the difference of third impact as opposed to human
>instrumentality? in both scenarios humans die in that they lose their
>physical form. and if why did seele want third impact to be created by evas
>instead of by the angels?
Third Impact is the end of humanity in its current form.
If the Angels trigger it, that ending is extinction. If
humans trigger it, it results in our evolution/change/
transformation to something (hopefully) better.
The Human Instrumentality Project is SEELE's attempt to
control the way Third Impact turns out and make it
conform to what they want.
> also how did making adam into an embryo again
>prevent a possibly larger danger?
No idea.
Unless they mean that by doing so they delay Third Impact
for 14 years.
>one more thing. in the death and rebirth, when unit two is activated and
>they find out its unmanned, misato says "that means ritsko is...." what did
>she mean?
Uncertain. It's possible Misato realizes her friend has
aces up her sleeve she's not revealing...
FW
Rudolf Polzer
> uhhh........ and that means?
uhhh........ and that means?
BTW: You're top posting and there is no indication on what you are
referring to with your question.
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> they find out its unmanned, misato says "that means ritsko is...." what did
> she mean?
I think she means that Ritsuko has tried to stop the angel. I'll go
watch it again and find out
MBVA
> than humanity, another evolutionary path related to us but
> separate. They are no more the direct creation of God than
> humanity is.
then how come the angel's existence was never known to man prior their
appearance. where do they come from, if they're just from another
evolutionary path related to us then it makes sense that they should have
been on earth in the first place. they had to have evolved from somewhere.
> Third Impact is the end of humanity in its current form.
> If the Angels trigger it, that ending is extinction. If
> humans trigger it, it results in our evolution/change/
> transformation to something (hopefully) better.
>
> The Human Instrumentality Project is SEELE's attempt to
> control the way Third Impact turns out and make it
> conform to what they want.
i thought seele had nothign to do with human instrumentality. in an episode,
i forget which one, they mention that the human instrumentality project was
gendou's creation. seele just wanted to follow the scenario in the dead sea
scrolls to lead them to third impact. and futhermore, instrumentality was
gendou's plan to be one with yui. and how come gendou's right hand man,
professor something, wanted human instrumentality as well? he seemed to know
all of gendou's plans, yet he went along with it with no obvious gain for
himself.
Frank White
bob...@optushome.com.au says...
>
>> The best idea seems to be that Angels are something different
>> than humanity, another evolutionary path related to us but
>> separate. They are no more the direct creation of God than
>> humanity is.
>
>then how come the angel's existence was never known to man prior their
>appearance. where do they come from, if they're just from another
>evolutionary path related to us then it makes sense that they should have
>been on earth in the first place. they had to have evolved from somewhere.
Do not forget how hideously long ago First Impact was. The
Angels are the offspring of Adam, even as humans are the
children of Lillith. They could have evolved and left the
Earth long before humans reached the point of coming down
from the trees.
Or they might have evolved out in space, in a different
dimension, on an alternate Earth, etc, etc. There is
not enough information to tell. What we know is that
they are related to us, and the way things are set up,
it's us or them.
>> Third Impact is the end of humanity in its current form.
>> If the Angels trigger it, that ending is extinction. If
>> humans trigger it, it results in our evolution/change/
>> transformation to something (hopefully) better.
>>
>> The Human Instrumentality Project is SEELE's attempt to
>> control the way Third Impact turns out and make it
>> conform to what they want.
>
>i thought seele had nothign to do with human instrumentality. in an
episode,
>i forget which one, they mention that the human instrumentality project was
>gendou's creation. seele just wanted to follow the scenario in the dead sea
>scrolls to lead them to third impact. and futhermore, instrumentality was
>gendou's plan to be one with yui. and how come gendou's right hand man,
>professor something, wanted human instrumentality as well? he seemed to
know
>all of gendou's plans, yet he went along with it with no obvious gain for
>himself.
He may have concluded that Third Impact was inevitable. And
it was better to control it and make sure the human race
survived in some form or another rather than allowing it to
be destroyed.
FW