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Joseph Austin

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Jan 24, 2016, 1:16:07 AM1/24/16
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MOLINEUX METHOD  
I've started transcribing the G. Molineux--The Junior Illustrated Piano Method, which seems to be in the public domain,
into ChromaTonnetz. In particular,  I have done Duets 16-20 and am starting to learn to play them.

I've decided that "starting over from scratch" with a new notation (or by ear)  is the best way to approach the Janko,
This method stars very slowly in 5-finger position,
and as such is a gentle introduction to a new layout and a new notation,
much gentler than the Clementi.

I will post my transcriptions soon, possibly to my own website.
I'm also investigating converting them into Clairnote.

gguitarwilly

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Jan 24, 2016, 4:02:17 AM1/24/16
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Hi Joe,

Is using Musescore an option for you to transcribe pieces?  It's free music scoring software.
There are a number of advantages: it has a wysiwyg interface, you can enter notes by typing, by mouse, or with a midi keyboard (step record only) you can export into midi or xml for transcribing into other notations, you can listen to the notes you entered to check for mistakes. Because it's wysiwyg, you can enter notes without having to know their names; great for ledger line notes.
And of course: we could exchange files for transcription. 
I could help you with some tips to give you a 'flying start'.

Willem

Op zondag 24 januari 2016 07:16:07 UTC+1 schreef Joseph Austin:

Joseph Austin

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Jan 24, 2016, 8:29:49 AM1/24/16
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Willem,
I use a "piano-roll" MIDI editor, Aria Maestosa [http://ariamaestosa.sourceforge.net], to record MIDI on my Mac.
I have written my own software to convert MIDI to ChromaTonnetz via HTML Canvas.
I understand Frescobaldi can convert MIDI to Lilypond--I am trying to get that working also.
As you know, Paul Morris has software to output Clairnote from Lilypond.
I will post the MIDI files as well as the ChromaTonnetz.

I don't much care for conventional notation editors because the notation they edit is TN.
But beyond that, most determine note position by "cumulative duration;"  I prefer to enter notes by "onset time."


On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 4:02:17 AM UTC-5, gguitarwilly wrote:
Hi Joe,

Is using Musescore an option for you to transcribe pieces?  [snip]

Omar Soriano

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Jan 24, 2016, 12:51:00 PM1/24/16
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Good luck with this.  We'll be eager to see the results.

Joseph Austin

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Jan 26, 2016, 2:11:57 PM1/26/16
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Molineux Duets # 16-20 in ChromaTonnetz posted.
#19 corrected 1/28

I have scored the Duets as 4-part hymns on a single combined staff
The SECUNDO parts have LEFT stems and the PRIMO parts have RIGHT stems.

The staff is vertical Clarinote with the C ledger line dashed:  lines solid dashed solid = G# C E
The color sequence do-re-me /  fa so la ti  is:  red-blue-yellow / blue yellow red blue
The orientation sequence do re mi / fa so la ti is: up down up / right left right left
[The chromatic color sequence is: red yellow blue; chromatic orientation sequence: UP RIGHT DOWN LEFT]

Stem-side is: do-re-me UPPER; fa-so-la-ti LOWER, corresponding to alternate Janko rows.
Timing s distance-proportional based on stem position; bars fall between counts.

Comments, suggestions, corrections welcome; post them here.

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 1:16:07 AM UTC-5, Joseph Austin wrote:
Mjr-16.pdf
Mjr-19.pdf
Mjr-17.pdf
Mjr-18.pdf
Mjr-20.pdf
MolineuxJr-16-DuetPrimoSecundo.mid
MolineuxJr-20-DuetPrimoSecundo.mid
MolineuxJr-18-DuetPrimoSecundo.mid
MolineuxJr-17-DuetPrimoSecundo.mid
MolineuxJr-19-DuetPrimoSecundo.mid

gguitarwilly

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Feb 24, 2016, 12:54:18 PM2/24/16
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Hi Joe,

I played two of the pieces today. I had to add diatonic numbers, something that I'm sure will become unnecessay with more reading.
The triangles are so different from regular Clairnote that right now I'm having trouble reading.
The pieces are very, very straightforward, which is not to say that practising them is not a good thing.
However, they offer no surprises for the ear. 
For getting I-IV-V progressions into my system I play simple songs by ear. It saves me the trouble of reading, so I can focus on the instrument.
The janko lends itself very well for such practice. 
For reading, there's much interesting music to explore. I'm not able to play pieces at performance level, but I'm having fun using the advantages of the combination uniform notation/uniform keyboard to play music I wouldn't be able to read in TN.
You probably know the piano book 'the joy of boogie and blues'. I'm playing 'house of the rising sun' and to my surprise I've almost got it.
You might consider seeing sight reading and mastering the instrument as two separate things; you get to have fun exploring sooner.

Willem


Op dinsdag 26 januari 2016 20:11:57 UTC+1 schreef Joseph Austin:

Joseph Austin

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Feb 25, 2016, 4:03:01 PM2/25/16
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I"ve finished transcribing up to #47 into Chromatonnetz.
I'll probably post them somewhere, sometime, but if anyone is itching tor more,
I can post them here.
By #45 or so he is starting to get into other keys and beyond strict 5-finger position.


Joseph Austin

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Feb 25, 2016, 4:07:40 PM2/25/16
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Willem,
I had been doing "by ear" somewhat in parallel with Chromatonnetz.
I agree the Janko, especially one marked with Chromatonnetz colors and shapes,
is very friendly to "playing by ear".

But lately I've been focusing on Chromatonnetz,
partly to get some kind of lesson book for Janko "in print",
and partly to give Chromatonnetz a thorough test myself.


gguitarwilly

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Feb 26, 2016, 11:34:23 AM2/26/16
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Hi Joe,

Sounds like a good idea to test your notation yourself!
especially with the janko. 
Looking forward to hearing of your experiences.

Willem


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