Re: Re: amar kichhu vabna, apnar matamat janan

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Dec 20, 2009, 8:23:39 AM12/20/09
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TMC ba CPM, Janachetana ke khub valo chokhe dekhche na eTa bolte pari. Jehetu choto, tai ignore karche. kintu Moaurasipatti badha dile aghat asbe dudik thekei...ei obosthai,every week 1 hour news magazine for Janachetana kara jete pare ki?
jekhane weekly 3-4 te issue niye alochona habe..

Biplab

2009/12/19 Rupanjan Chattopadhyay <rupan...@gmail.com>
Kal probably amader ekta meeting ache...  Onek alochona mail etc... dekhe lokjoner tempo ta bes valoi lagche ekjon member hisebe... Tobe amar mone hoy ebar amader action plan ta final korte hobe... ekhetre amar kichu vabna share korlam....
 
Amader apatoto tinte dike nojor deoa uchit bole amar mone hoy:
 
1. Democracy ke aro shaktisali korar chesta. ar sejonno main jeta  holo law and order ke thikthak korar chesta kora. Ejonno ekta core group toiri hok jara law and order flaw gulo niye prothom e analysis koruk tarpor accordingly step nik kivabe law and order ke common people r kache pouche deoa jay and corruption komano jay... Eta janachetana ba samajik hingsa komanor  jonno khub dorkar..
 
2. Ekta team toiri hok jara bivinno NGO ba jesob student  WB r gram gulo te research work korche tader sange co-ordinate kore ebong kichu kichu gram e giye sekhankar socio economic condition ta analysis kora... keno particuler kichu gram e violence besi kichu gram e kom etar root cause analysis kore tar solution ta bar korar chesta kora.. Hoyto eta somoy sapekhho ba proisromer kintu mone hoy osomvob noy..
 
3. Je political dolgulo jokhon e hingsa korche  tader ei forum e daka tarpor ekta milito discussion r ayojoner chesta kora... eta khub e kothin kaj tobuo bollam... jemon college e je marpit gulo hochhe sekhane du doler e high command er sange nutrally bose chesta kora bapar gulo ke metate... ta jodi nao hoy tahole atleast reason gulo bar kora ar college gulo te prochar suru kora jate  student der modhhe ekta awareness ase...
 
Ei tinte point jodi acceptable mone hoy atleast alochona kore dekhben....
 
Kalker meeting er ekta brief pathale valo lagbe.... Ami 15th Jan back korchi.... suvechha roilo..
 
 


 
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:15 AM, sunandito basu <suna...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
Sabbai-ke,

amader ei alochona chala-ta khub jaruri. Ami nije khub enriched hochhi. Ekhono amader Mancha khub-e natun ar chotto - tai, ekhono er sampurno kajer ruprekha toiri hoi ni. Alochona-r madhyome seta korte parbo.
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RE:"Janachetana Mancha sab jane ba bojhe eta mone kore na. Tai janogan ke sachetan karar mahan dayitwa niyechhe, eta mone karar karon nei.."- by Uttal Ghosh.

Mone hoi ebypare amader kono dwimot nei. Prathagato rajnaitik dal ba sangothanguli ba byakti jakhoni saktishali hoye outhe tader modhey ekta 'sab jani' gocher bichhuti ashe. Nijeder beshi swacheton o manush-ke abogya kara jhok tairi hoi.

Ek din Janachetana Mancha (JM)eken baro hobe, takhon amader modhey-o ei bichhuti kaj kortey pare. Tai shuru-tei sabdhan hoa darkar. Mancher memeber hishebe sudhu noi, bykti jeebane amara samagrik samaj o manush-ke sradhya korar chesta korbo ebong manusher theke siksha nebo. Taholei JM-ke amara contribute korte parbo. Karon JM amader niye toiri.
Manush-er swachetanata-r abhab nei, amara chaibo tader swacheton matamot-ke ekta platform (mancha) debar.

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RE:"Kono dal noy DALTRANTRER sanskriti (sab kichhu dal nirvar, dal nirdesito) badlate parle ek matro e kaj kara jai."- Uttal Ghosh

Ami ek mat. Amader samaje rajnaitik dalgulor guruttwo aswikar kara jay na. Tai kon dal ba ekta-dotu dal-ke beche niye akraman kore (jeta amra majhe majhe kore phelchi- bishesato CPM o TMC-ke)amder ki kono lav hobe? Amra bartoman-e je rajnoitik culture cholche tar biruddhey, dalotantra-er biruddhey. Amara positive political culture-er pakshe katha bolar cheshta kori, prathagato rajnaitik dalguli-keo tate angsho nebar janno amantran janai na. Let us be INCLUSIVE.

Amra to kono rajnaitik daler birudhhey noi. Jodi amara kono kono rajnaitik byakti ba dal-er birudhhey "garm katha" balar janno Mancha-ke byabohar kori tahole amar mone hoi amader Mancha-r biswasjogyata kombe. Karon shei khetre manusher modhey ekta dharona toiri hote pare je, amra kono particular rajnaitik abhisandhi niye cholchi, athoba Janachetana Mancha PDS-er (Saifuddin Choudhuri-r uposthiti-r karone) kona sakha sangothan (Jeta media-r ekta angsho manush-ke bojhanor chesta korche).
Tabe, kono ekta particular issue niye kono ekat rajnaitik dal-er biruddhey oikyamater bhitti-te JM katha boltei pare. Kintu kono generalised statement amra korbo na.
Pashapashi, amader byaktbyo emon jeno na hoi ja manush-ke rajniti bimukh kore. Rajniti-te ja kichu positive hole, amader setake appreciate korte hobe, karon rajniti-teo manusher angsho grahan proyojan sustho samajer swarthey.

Secondly, JM-e Safi-da, Somenath Chatterjee saho anyanyo-der upasthiti bhishon guruttwo purno. Deshe-r rajniti-te tader abodan/prbahb swikar kortei hobe. Kintu Manche tara eshechen Mancha-r lakhyo-ke saktishali kortey. Tai tader byktigato/ dalaogato rajnaitik dristibhangi-ke alochonay na ene, tader abhigyota o matamot-ke amader beshi kore kaje lagatey hobe.

Kono byakti-e samashti-r urddhy noi. Amara ekta mancho, amra sakole saman.

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RE:"Sabai k sakriyo vabe karmosuchite angso niteo hobe na."
Katha-ta thik, Kintu tabuo mone hoi amader aro beshi kore lok-ke kache tanar janno karmashuchi neo darkar. Bahu manush kichu bolte chai, amara ki sei sob manusher kache pouchonoe janno kichu bhabchi. Naki amra ei byapare sudhu press r internet-r opor nirvor kore thakbo?? Amra manusher kachey amader katha pouche dite rastay nambo na, ba serakom karmosuchi (not rally or demonstration only)nebo na?
Amra to college-gulor gate dariye, ba officer samney diriye boltei pari je ' bahi, apni SFI hote paren, ba TMCP hote paren, ba Co-ordination committe hote paren, ba kono kichu-te nai thaktey paren, kintu ashun amra sobai mile amader sarkar-er kache ainer shasoner janno appeal kpri, neta-der boli mukher bhasa sangjato karun, marjito karun, apnara sab dalgulo ek sathey boshey alochona kore amader janno chakrir bybostha karun, amader schooler chad-ta paka karun, etc.. Amar mone hoi manush-ke bolley manush aro beshi kore amader modhye asbe, ar sabai eksathey bolle neta-rao shuntey badhyo hoben.

E chara Uttal-da je karmashuchi-gulo bolche se gulo kori. Amra parle 2-3 jon kore member niye ekta cell kori jara RTI/ 100 diner kaj/ Self emplyment etyadi niye research kore nijeder toiri kore parobarti samay manush-ke e byapre help/ guide korebe.

Jato beshi manish-ke amra pabo, tato natun path berobe. Kono byakti samajke eka badlate parey na - bahu achena, ajana manush poribartner beej bapan kore.Kono byakti/ byakti-ra hoito ta-ke netrityi dey. America-te Kalo manusher adhikarer andolane M.L. King netrityo diyechen matro.Kintu tar bahu age, matro 15 bachor-er chotto meye, Claudette Colvin ekdin ek sada manush-ke bus-er sit chere ditey aswikar korey sei andoloner beej byapon koren. MLK, Rosa Park -ra sei beej-e jal diye, poricharja kore, sei andolaner briksho-ke dar karan. Asole ami jeta bolte chai, seta holo JM-er jeta byaktbyo, seta already manusher mone ready hoye achaey. Amra parbo ki sei byaktobyo ke aeta mancho/platform ditey?

Facebook/ Orkut-e (Note: Orkut-e Janachetana-r duto community keno?? Konta official?????)amader anek member hoyechey. Eder sathey contact kora dorkar, eder details, contact information register kortey hobe. Ei bypare daityo nirdisto korle bhalo hoi.

Aboseshe!!!
SYNOPSIS: amar matamat
1. Janachetana kono daler birudhey noi - dalotantre-r birudhhy.
2. Rajniti o rajnaitik-der birudhey noi - sustho unnyonshil rajnitir pakshe.
3. Manushe ke sange niye amader karmashuchi thik kortey hobe.
4. Sudhu unnayon-er katha bola noi- amarao kichu kore dekhabo.
5. Aro manush-er kachey pouchonor janno chinta kortey hobe.

Seshe ekta katha boli. Ajker Ganashakti-te 1st page-e ekta khsato -bikshato mritodeher chobi achhye. Chobi dekhe amar 3 bachhorer meye kato golo prasno korlo jar satyi jabab ami dite pari-ni. 3 bachorer meye kibhabe shiklo "guli lege khun/ Maobadi"? Ke er jabab debe? Kar adhikar achhey shishu-der shaishob bishakto karar? Kara sekhachhey "Harmad/ Gaba/ Dumdum Daoai" - ei sob katha. Tai Janachetona darkar, aro manush darkar.
ANEK KAAJ KARAR ACHHEY.

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Oshadharon Bishleshon. Protiti line e tumi nikhut vabe abong nirdishto vabe bolte cheyecho j:
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" Kono Rajnoitik dol er chtrochaayay ei JANACHETANA MANCHA noy.
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" Samaaj toirir mukhosh nie j Rajnoitik dol guli osamaajik kormoshuchi chalacche, tader biruddhe shudhu gola fatanoi amader kormoshuchi noy.
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" Amra bivinno locality te tader nijosshyo sangothoner sathe haat milie shei elakar manusher jonnyo kaaj korbo, ta se Blood group data collection hok ba literacy movement hok.
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" Somnath Chatterjee sothik vabei bolechen kaaj ta khub kothin, amar mone hoy uni ei songothoner jothartho roop ta directly dhorie diechen. Khudro Chatro rajnitir ovigyota theke amar mone hoy, manush michile ghore party sodosyo pod nebar jonnyo mukhie thake .... jodi kichu banie neo a jay taar ashaay. Amar obak lage jakhon tathakotito amar valo lagar valobashar buddhijibider o er modhye dekhi. jodio sobai gochate Rajnoitik dol bachen na, karur karur nijosyo idiology vishon vabe kaaj kore. Asole Somnath da setai bojhate cheyechen, Janachetona Mancho theke kichu paoa jabena to. eta to aakhorik orthei orajnoitik dol. Tai manusher somorthon paoata khub soja kintu sokrio ongshogrohon khub khub kothin.
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" Tomar bishleshon e r o akta dik prokot hoeche, jekhane tumi jor dite cheyecho j eti kono nirdishto Rajnoitik doler shakha songothon noy. Ektu sorasori bolle PDS. Jehetu Sofida nije michile hetechen ba 29th convention e baktobyo rekhechen. Amon kono mantobyo akhono obdhi ami paini. Jodi eta hoe o thake amar mone hoy bta hoeche, Michile ba convention e Sofi dar kichu nijoshyo lok thakar jonyo ja kina sonkhyay jotheshto chokhe porar moto. 29th convention e jara monche uthe baktobyo rekhechilen tader odhikangshoi hoy bikkhubdho CPIM othoba bartoman PDS. Ki odvut tai na? kono bikkhubdho CONG. Ba TMC ba BJP, ba nidenpokkhe SUCI, FB, CPI, RSP etc& keu nei. Aaccha etar upor ki kono research work hote parena? Kano sudhui CPIM e ato bikkhubdho & jara kina akta mancho gorte chaiche? 32 bachor e kichu na pabar effect? naki j ideology nie prothom path chola shuru hoe chilo sei swopner mrityu? Jodi dwitio t ahoy tahole JANACHETONA MANCHO er ideology ki? Jodi prothom ta hoy, tahole JANACHETONA MANCHO korle ki paoa jete pare?
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Prostuti committee r akjon sadoshyo hishebe akta baktobyo rakhi, ami akkhorik orthei monche eshechi tomake dekhe. Ami PDS er ideology jani na, PDS er kauk chinio na. kintu ebarer lokshava election e ami shudhu PDS kei vote deini r o 10 jon ke sekhne vote dite utshahito kore safol hoechilam. Tar prothom karon Safi da r moto guni abong kaajer manush, dwitio karon, ami mone korina manusher kono upokar e aste pare CPIM ba TMC ba BJP. Tritioto vot ta nashto korte chaini. Kintu member hishebe amar somoshya ta onnyo jaygay. Amar pokkhe somoy bar kora ak kothay oshomvob. Ami ektu prostuti committee r baire thekei manusher jonnyo kaaj ta korte chai. Amar mone hoy, tate nijeke sothik jaygay daar korate parbo. Na hole amar saathi ra vobishyote vuru konchkate dwidha korben na je somosto program e na thekeo ki kore sokrio member thaka jay. Othoba amon o hote pare amake dekhi e keu hoyto proshno tulte paren Anirban Chowdhury o to sob program e thake na . kintu ami officially atotai byasto j ami jodi 2 ghonta somoy baar korte pari age seta ami amar choto meyake debo tarpor MANCHO k. Sei jonnyo odhikangsho Sunday amar program attend kora khub kothin kaaj. Jai hok ami nihshobde amaar kaj kore jabo.
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Sobosheshe boli, Somnath Chatterjee r Kotha shune mone houai swavabik kaaj ta kothin. Kintu Goutam Mohon Chakraborty r kotha shune ki mone hocche kaaj ta kothin? Tumi ki onar ukti ta Somnath dar kane pouche diecho?
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Uttorer opekkhyay roilam. Jodio j duto logo pathiechilam tar kono comment Biplab pal chara karur kaache paini. Karon shudhu nijei jani.
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JOY HO JANOCHETANA
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Janachetana Mancha toiri
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haoar par je 13 din ketechhe, ar garar prokriya theke je ovigwata hoyechhe
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amar, tar vitti kichhu katha. Bes baro hoye galo. Ektu kasto kore pore matamat
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janale valo hoy.
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Janachetana Mancha kono
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prothagato sangothan noy. Eta sab arthyei ekta mancha. Nana dal-mat-path er
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manus ekhane asben, alochana korben---cholben duto mul laksha ke samne
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rekhe---hingshamukto samaj o rajniti ebang susanhato unnyayan. Keu ekbar elen mane theke gelen tao na. Na mille chole jete paren, asha kara jai, jaoar agey janiye jaben.
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Janachetana Mancha kono
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rajnoitik dale r samantaral kono sangothan noy. Karo birudhdhhe ba pakshe
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darabe na Janachetana Mancha---kono rajnoitik dal er niyantrito to hobei na. je
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kono rajnoitik daler manus ekhane thakte paren, jodi tini mul lakshagulor
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proti daybadhdhha thaken.
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Janachetana Mancha sab jane
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ba bojhe eta mone kore na. Tai janogan ke sachetan karar mahan dayitwa niyechhe,
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eta mone karar karon nei, ulte Janachetana Mancha mone kore manus er ovigwata-i
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sabcheye baro sikshak. Sei manus---sadharan manus er kantho hote chay
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Janachetana Mancha. Tader sange kathabarta, mat adan prodan er modhye diye
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Janachetana Mancha-r mul bojhaparagulo k samaj er bivinno star e chhoriye deoar
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chesta kore jabe Janachetana Mancha.
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Onekta bristi r mato. Keu
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vije anondo pan, keu asukhe poren, jomi jal peye chaser upojogi hoy---kintu
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bristi ki provab felbe tar janyo sab khetrei byekti manus er kriya, saririk o
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manosik abostha gurotto purno. Khet jal peye chaser upojogi holo, kintu chasi
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chas korlen na, tahole to lav holo na. Janachetana Mancha o serakam. Ekta
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dharonatar vittite path chalabyakti manus, sangstha k sakriyo kara---egulo
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joruri. Tai amra ki kaj korlam seta jemon gurottopurno, temni amra kato byakti
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manus o sangthan k sakriyo korte parlam---samajik itibachok poribeser
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janyosetao guruttopurno.
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Dhara jak kono elakar manus
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er blood group directory banano hobe. Amra banate pari. Kintu tar cheye besi
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valo hoy sthaniyo kono club ba snagstha k diye sei kaj karanoamra samarthamato
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tader sahajyo korte pari. Ba gram e 100 diner kaj er programme---ki ki niyom,
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manus ki ki pete parenegulo amra prochar korte pari---ar se gulo manus
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thikthak mato pachchhen ki na ta dekhar janyo gram er i kono club ba sangstha
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(ngo noy) var niley amra thik mato korte parlam seta bojha jabe. BPL talika r
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Ba diabetis samparke
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sachetanata. E kaj karar janyo sangothan ache. Amra proyojan e tader sahajyo
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korte pari. Mane saab kaj amrai korbo, prochar kurobo, ta noi, tar cheye besi
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joruri kato manus o sangothan ke sakriyo korte parlam---samajer pakshe
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Byakti manus o samajik
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bivinno sangsthar itibachok vumikai DALTANTRIK samaj jiban ke bodle dite pare,
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angsograhon mulak ganotantro r madhyame susanhato unnayan er darja khule dite
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pare. CPIM-TMC saho je kono dal ke galigalaj kore, tader samalochana kore atmotripti
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hote pare, kintu kajer kaj hobe bole mone hoy na. Kono dal noy DALTRANTRER
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E prosonge Somnath Chatterjee
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ami tomader discourage korchhi na, kintu je kaj tomra korchho ta khub kothin.
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Mone koro na hoi hoi kore dale dale lok chole asben. Sabai hoyto cause ta k
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samarthan korben, kintu sakriyo vabe angso neben na.
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Sabai k sakriyo vabe
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karmosuchite angso niteo hobe na. Onekei thakte paren, jara amader sange
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jogajog rekhe, nijer nijer khetre ei dharonagulo prochar kore jaben. Opore jato
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dheu dekha jabe, nichhe chora srot thakbe onek besi. Setai Janachetana Mancher
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Amra sabai sab byapare ekmat
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nao hote pari, na haotai swabhabik o swasthokarkintu seta jeno manoshik
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durotto toiri na kore dei. Nijer mat akapate prokas kara ebang onyer mat
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gurutto diye sona---dutoi ganotanrik avyaser joruri ango.
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Apatato amader char pasta
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ekta ajana atonker chadore mora, tai MAGOJE CURFEW. Tai apatato ei chador ta
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saranor kaj karatai joruri. Hata gutiye kono dal ba byaktir birudhdhhe garom
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katha bala jete pare, tate hite biporit hobe. Dhoirjer sange nijeder katha bole
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jete hobe. Kono dal ba dalgulor proti birokti theke Janochetana Mancha noy, ekta
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rajnoitik sanskriti badol karar chestay ei mancha.
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Ei muhurte duniya jure
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progotir kono nirdisto alok sikha nei. Progotir pakshe cholte chaoa manus achen
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onek. Tader vabna ache onek. Tate prochur difference of opinion o ache. 800
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koti difference ber kara jai, kintu amra chai 80 ta points of indifference ja
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paoa jachchhe ta niye egote. Tar janyo amader flexible haoa darker. Oi points
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of indifference niye kaj korte korte aro 80 ta points of indifference toiri
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hobe---khetro ta prosarito hobe.
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Onek manuser kachhe amader
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katha pouchhechhe. Tader modhye nana bivantri ba prosno achhe. Bisesato kono
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rajnoitik dale er back up chhara ajker bange kono mancho? Onekei sandeher vuru
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kochkachhen. Ei biswasjogyota pete antato 6 mas samay lagbe. Keu sangsay prokash
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korle tere jhagra korle hobe na, karon satyi to karo ovigwatay erakam sangothan
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er katha jana nei. Parar horisabha r committee dakhol korte rajnoitik dalgulo
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nana namey neme pore, swami-stree r samparke ajachito vabe dhuke paresekhane
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eta mone karatai swavabik.
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Seminar ityadi kore amra jemon ekta alochanar poribes toiri korte chaibo, temni development er janyo research work korbo. Ar nijera nana samajik kaaj er khetro khulbo (jemon gorib students der janyo free coaching camp etc. Tate nijeder social commitment tao barbe.
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Du-ekta ovigwata bole ses
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Niloy Dutta (amader mancher
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organizing committee r member) or JU r professor der sange katha balar samay
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rajnitir katha uthlo. Dujon bollen Janis ekta mancho hoyechhe, janachetana
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mancho, sab daler kharap er birudhdhhe katha bolche. Niloy janalo o mancher
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sange jukto. Professor ra jante chailen.
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somnathbabu-safidar mancho bole vabchhen. Se dharonao dhoirjo dhore katate
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hobe, media je tuku khabor korechhe, seta to oi line ei. Ar protisthito
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neta-netrir chayahin sadharan manus er mancho---e ovigwata ache naki? Tai oi
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Amader 6th
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December er rally r par kolkatar police commissioner Anirban Sinha k phone kore
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Anirban bollo, keno? Ja
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CP r jabab, on duty police
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officer ra bollen, erakam michhil baper janme dekhini. Political party gulo
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evabe michhil korte pare na? Ekjan officer bollen sir, amar oder sange gala
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miliye gaan gaite ichhe korchilo. Kintu uniform pore chhilam, tai pari ni. CP
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oi officer k jigges koren, ki gaan gaichhilo? dhanodhanye puspevara. CP bolen
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gailen na keno? Uniform pore janagano gaan na?
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Anirban k bismito CP r prosno
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abar apnara thik ki korte chaichhen bolun to?
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Erakam avigwata nischoi sabar
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hochchhe. Bojha jachchhe jomi ache onekta, dhoiryo ar udarata niye chas korte
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hobe.
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Ami biswas
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MANUS I ITIHAS TOIRI KOREN,
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MANUS ER OPOR BISWAS HARANO
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PAP.
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note: neha, probir chatterjee, mrinal majumder, amitabha sen hindol goswami ke pathano jai ni, karon oder mail id amar kachhe nei. jara parben daya kore oder ektu fwd kore deben.
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