Osprey video
isa...@aol.com
Don Riepe
Nice footage of an Osprey with a still flapping fish, on top of a light pole along the Belt Pkwy.
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jamaica Bay" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jamaica-bay...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/594771863.4545473.1594240172493%40mail.yahoo.com.
Bill Woodroffe
Just curious what people think of the ACOE work at Plumb Beach. It has been a few years. How do you think the ACOE plans worked or didn’t work?
Bill & Maureen Woodroffe
s/v Kalunmaoo
Read our blog at: Kalunamoo.com
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Ida Sanoff
On Aug 16, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Bill Woodroffe <whwsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
Just curious what people think of the ACOE work at Plumb Beach. It has been a few years. How do you think the ACOE plans worked or didn’t work?
<E6B10196D23F41529335090631265B04.jpg>
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jamaica Bay" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jamaica-bay...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/F09ADF0F-6E2A-4319-AD0B-77EFC23DEDD7%40hxcore.ol.
Bill Woodroffe
Yes, it looks like a good outcome, despite the jagged shore line! Oddly, a small island in the Grenadines has a similar problem but does not have the $ or ACOE so that reminded me of Plumb Beach.
Still here is St Lucia, on the lookout for hurricanes and virus!
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/01268ABE-3DF8-44D6-B4A9-5D9C3AD063BA%40aol.com.
Alexander Betser
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/F0495FE7-608B-4C00-82BD-A6E96FF7E4C7%40hxcore.ol.
Bill Woodroffe
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/CAO7%3DyBFpSSYD%3DXMXQVAy9oCA1n-%3DF2-KmVTK1zXRR9uf8Pc-Og%40mail.gmail.com.
Most, Mary (DSNY)
Y’all can answer a question I keep asking and usually get shrugs: is the water safe to swim in at Plumb Beach? I rode my bike there with friends, and no one was sure how polluted this bay might be… I love doing long swims, but wasn’t comfortable, not knowing.
(Bill -- Enjoy the crystal clear turquoise waters of St Lucia! I honeymooned at Anse Chastanet.)
_____________________________
MARY MOST
working remotely
|
mm...@dsny.nyc.gov
* * * * * *
Visit
nyc.gov/coronavirus to learn how to protect yourself and others from COVID-19
isa...@aol.com
joseph nerone
Mary most please consider two things before swimming at Plumb beach.
On Aug 18, 2020, at 10:55 PM, 'isa...@aol.com' via Jamaica Bay <jamai...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Polluted? In Brooklyn, that term is pretty fluid.
I'm a native New Yorker from the days when sewage treatment was minimal. When I was a kid, I thought that the ocean was brown. When you went to one of Brooklyn's public beaches, sometimes the water stunk. But everyone was in the water having a great time and we never got sick.
Over the last decade or so, I've been in some pretty funky water off Brighton Beach and Coney Island but there were no advisories. Now we get alerts on our phones if water quality is unacceptable, but that is a fairly recent situation.
Certain water bodies in NYC are listed as "swimmable" and others are not. Take Coney Island Creek for instance. It has a big, fat CSO, numerous storm water outfalls and more than a few mystery pipes going into it. You're not supposed to swim there, but everyone does. It's even a very popular spot for baptisms. Volunteer groups do water testing there and sometimes bacterial levels are OK and sometimes they are through the roof. But none of that keeps people from swimming there,
-----Original Message-----
From: Most, Mary (DSNY) <mm...@dsny.nyc.gov>
To: jamai...@googlegroups.com <jamai...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2020 3:17 pm
Subject: [Jamaica Bay] RE: Plumb beach
Y’all can answer a question I keep asking and usually get shrugs: is the water safe to swim in at Plumb Beach? I rode my bike there with friends, and no one was sure how polluted this bay might be… I love doing long swims, but wasn’t comfortable, not knowing.(Bill -- Enjoy the crystal clear turquoise waters of St Lucia! I honeymooned at Anse Chastanet.)_____________________________MARY MOST
working remotely | mm...@dsny.nyc.gov
* * * * * *
Visit nyc.gov/coronavirus to learn how to protect yourself and others from COVID-19From: jamai...@googlegroups.com <jamai...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Bill Woodroffe
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 11:35 AM
To: jamai...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [SOCIAL NETWORK] RE: [Jamaica Bay] RE: Plumb beachYes, it looks like a good outcome, despite the jagged shore line! Oddly, a small island in the Grenadines has a similar problem but does not have the $ or ACOE so that reminded me of Plumb Beach.Still here is St Lucia, on the lookout for hurricanes and virus!
<image002.jpg>
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/834715658.4165509.1597805720656%40mail.yahoo.com.
<image002.jpg>
Bill Woodroffe
Mary,
Anse Chartanet is a beautiful spot, just up the coast from the Pitons. But of course you know that 85% of most of all the island’s wastewater goes directly into the water. In the town of Canaries, a few miles north of Anse Chastanet, only 50% of the population have toilets. There are a few places that water is “treated”. There is very little if any “testing”.
There are two sewerage systems in Saint Lucia (population 160,000). One, is a primary sewage collection and disposal system in Castries (the capital), which serves approximately 15% of the Castries population and covers the business area. The second is a sewerage system which includes collection, treatment (aeration) and disposal and is located in Rodney Bay where we are and serves primarily residential areas and hotels (Sandals and others). In total the plant serves a population of 3-4000. Treated effluent from the system is discharged via an earth drain to a ravine which leads to the ocean in Rodney Bay.
The majority of residents and establishments in Saint Lucia utilize individual on-site systems (pit latrines, septic tanks and soak a-ways) for sewage treatment and disposal. Grey water is generally discharged to open drains and has the potential to spread disease since it contains fecal coliforms.
On most islands the situation is the same. What I’m pointing out is that sewage and fresh water supply is a major concern here as elsewhere. The developed world (NYC – Jamaica Bay) have the resources to address these issues. Most of the worlds population does not have those options. But of course, sewage treatment, water supply, garbage disposal and environmental reef degradation are not something Paradise lists in tourist brochures (understandably so). The phrase “dilution to pollution is not the solution” seems not to have reached these or many other shores.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/EA197042-7489-48BA-9458-FE051202A207%40yahoo.com.
Alexander Betser
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/3EEDDA58-D7BB-4825-AC78-7A5C14AE6D4E%40hxcore.ol.
Bill Woodroffe
Alexander,
There are concerned people and organizations everywhere. (We have found that many issues are universal. The Salt Whistle Bay issue on Mayreau regarding beach erosion reminded me of Plumb Beach). Resources make the difference along with commitments and public support. St. Lucia is not unique nor do I imply that there are answers to everything. Local issues have to be solved locally, but at the end of the day, all we have is one earth.
“Saint Lucia’s Sectoral Adaptation Strategy and Action Plan for the Water Sector (Water SASAP) 2018-2028 Under the National Adaptation Planning Process
WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT About 90% of households, most hotels and farms rely on on-site sanitation facilities, such as toilets with septic tanks, which are serviced predominantly by private companies, or pit latrines. Only about 7% of the population (Castries and Gros Islet districts) has access to a public sewer system. Saint Lucia’s public service provision and enforcement of safe standards for wastewater are lagging behind the island’s capacity to provide water. WASCO is the only national wastewater utility company, yet its wastewater services are limited to the operation of the sewage networks and the sole Wastewater Treatment Plant (WWTP Beausejour); in all, only about 22% of properties are connected to a sewer system on the island. Due to limited resources for inspection and monitoring, the enforcement of sanitation regulations and the implementation of necessary remedial actions continue to be critical challenges for Saint Lucia as it faces the possible task of institutionalising a national sewage system on par with its water delivery network.”
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/CAO7%3DyBEk8_V5Fewxhbbt1fMzoRvyWREwaQQfCUObgsj%2BwqGxhw%40mail.gmail.com.
Alexander Betser
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/95BC013F-96C8-423F-B8ED-1997CF512F39%40hxcore.ol.
Bill Woodroffe
How do you put a man on the moon? With just one idea? With just one action? To paraphrase Tolstoy:
All successful societies are alike; each unsuccessful society is unsuccessful in its own way. In other words you need all the moving parts to be successful in order for the endeavor to succeed and only a few unsuccessful ones to derail all of it. This is lost on those who think they are the white knights with all the answers. So yes, you need education, advocacy, dreamers, maybe some schemers, (very) limited corruption, investors, visionaries and realists, engineers and artists. Everybody plays a part. Maybe that is the most important thing and the hardest. We all must be willing to play a part.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/CAO7%3DyBEjPf5yUDtJ78F3i0nH-Nv_nfrO5-9SU6SL%2By8pf9xpNA%40mail.gmail.com.
Alexander Betser
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/F5B9DE61-DE1C-4F24-B19B-AC68916A004D%40hxcore.ol.
Bill Woodroffe
I love to know the why and be the informed citizen part.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/CAO7%3DyBFG1FQU6up3c%2Bb8faOvWbWiWUy9q55wS0MBPSR_KTemOg%40mail.gmail.com.
Alexander Betser
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jamaica-bay/6583DFC3-5210-4C6A-882F-EEC71CE7BD78%40hxcore.ol.