Re: [jaluino] Moleculine - JALLIB/JAL Related Project Announcement

[Sebastien Lelong]

Hi Valter

Looks great, lots of work here. Do you plan to create PCBs?
I strongly suggest to post your project on jallist group, as well as jallib (jallist on yahoo will be better) as this group has very little traffic...

Get back to reading yourlinks.

Cheers
Seb

On Mar 17, 2013 9:11 AM, "Valter Fukuoka" <dot...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, I just want to announce a little project I am working on (The idea is old, I post something about it 1 year ago in the JALLIB forum).

The name is Moleculine Project.
Basically a kind of mini-JALUINO with:

a) TinyBootloader Firmware
b) TinyBootUPloader PythonGUI (running on Raspberry PI)
c) JAL and JALLIB as the initial (or main) programming language
d) Direct wire connection from the RaspberryPI to the PIC mcu (no adapter needed)

Source codes, binaries (hex's), electronic scheme and samples available...

Here is the 8pins 12F1840, 7kbytes
https://sites.google.com/site/molec12f1840/

Here is the 14pins 16F1825, 14kbytes
https://sites.google.com/site/molec16f1825/

Here is the 20pins 16F1829, 14kbytes
https://sites.google.com/site/molec16f1829/

What is the Moleculine Project - A little graphical style introduction
https://sites.google.com/site/psmoleculine/

There is a Revolution in Soft - Why create Moleculine Project
https://sites.google.com/site/3kindsofsoft/

Still as "beta and tests", something like a first prototype...

Current prototypes are working with a Raspberry PI, I now will be looking at (conventional) PC as the programmer also...

I did some samples:
i) blink led
ii) serial communication
iii) PWM
iv) adc

I hope to find help from you guys around JAL, JALLIB, etc, as the work progress...

My current inital target is for EDUCATION and training, then going further with the project exploring more possibities...

I will keep posting updates about future changes and progress...
Thanks a lot,
regards,
Valter Fukuoka

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[Valter Fukuoka]

Hi Sebastien, how are you?

2013年3月17日日曜日 0時16分32秒 UTC-8 Sebastien Lelong:

Hi Valter

Looks great, lots of work here. Do you plan to create PCBs?

Still working on the samples... lots of stuff but it is so fun to work on them...
It took several hours to prepare and write all the basic information pages, but by doing so I hope more people can benefit from the information and also participate helping the project grows...


[PCB]
Seems to be the next logical thinking of steps... right now I am looking at the project "todo" list, so trying to understand "what" to do to reach a final "format" for them, thus, reaching also some form of "shape" that can be translated into PCB...
Right now I am thinking around one "invitation letter" for you all to participate on and around the project, so we can, together, build something much wider than I can possible be thinking off... I think it is a good opportunity of us all to try this new approach, since the building blocks are good enough, I hope we can achieve a human collaboration coherent enough so that this small project give us back lots of motivation, inspiration and fun...

I strongly suggest to post your project on jallist group, as well as jallib (jallist on yahoo will be better) as this group has very little traffic...

Thanks, I post there also.

Valter

[Sunish Issac]

I have the PCB designed for 12f1840 with ICSP connector, 1307 rtc and Capacitor power supply which i can share.It will all fit in a CFL holder casing.
Single sided and through hole.

I have also made timer1 oscillator based rtc with battery backup for 12f629.

Sunish

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, John Little <sbi.g...@gmail.com> wrote:

Valter,  Sebastien,

   One project which I've had in mind for some time now is a Jaluino look/work-alike using the 27j53

   configured as a basic RTC for the Raspberry-pi.  The board would be all through-hole components to

   allow for DIY assembly by beginners, with a range of other peripherals as options (for instance, an

   attached ds1820 temperature sensor) and with all of the pinouts available to allow for easy connection

   to the ADC, PWM, etc.  Using the Raspi combined with JAL seems like a good way of getting more

   people interested in the possibilities of interfacing to the real world with microcontrollers.

   Unfortunately, like so many others, I'm still waiting for RS to deliver the Raspi (Nagano wa inaka dayo!).

   Sebastien, you do a much better job of delivery than them... there's a new career waiting for you

   there! :-)

   Valter, like Sebastien, I need to take a little more time to go through your info and see which direction

   you're heading in.  More later.

                                                 -John-

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[Valter Fukuoka]

Hi John, how are you (genki)?

RasPI, because it bring the best of the Linux PC world to go beyond the desk, is a powerful thing...
JAL makes MCUs usable at the "average human level"... it breaks complexity, turning it to more manageable levels...
A combination of these factors can unleash the "next wave" of potential users... this is part of my goals...

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:09 PM, John Little <sbi.g...@gmail.com> wrote:

Valter,  Sebastien,

   One project which I've had in mind for some time now is a Jaluino look/work-alike using the 27j53

   configured as a basic RTC for the Raspberry-pi.  The board would be all through-hole components to

   allow for DIY assembly by beginners, with a range of other peripherals as options (for instance, an

   attached ds1820 temperature sensor) and with all of the pinouts available to allow for easy connection

   to the ADC, PWM, etc.  Using the Raspi combined with JAL seems like a good way of getting more

   people interested in the possibilities of interfacing to the real world with microcontrollers.

If we combine effort, I am SURE we can accomplish this goal of bringing MCUs (Physical Software, using my terminology) to a wide audience...
 

   Unfortunately, like so many others, I'm still waiting for RS to deliver the Raspi (Nagano wa inaka dayo!).

   Sebastien, you do a much better job of delivery than them... there's a new career waiting for you

   there! :-)

I also want to share some ideas about distribution and delivery, for me it is one factor that can hold the development in this area... I will put some comments later on this topic...
 

   Valter, like Sebastien, I need to take a little more time to go through your info and see which direction

   you're heading in.  More later.

                                                 -John-

Regards (yoroshiku),
Valter

[Valter Fukuoka]

I also modified the firmware and tested with success on more MCUs, just in case users need options...

16F1938, 28pins, 28kbytes flash
16F1939, 40pins, 28kbytes flash
and
12F1822, 8pins, 3.5kbytes flash

...will be posting the source code this week...

I am still thinking about "how much variety" is the best option... or maybe it is too much too soon to have a good answer...

[Valter Fukuoka]

Hi, just want to place and update...

Boot Loader Firmware for the 12F1822 also available (source and hex)...

https://sites.google.com/site/molec12f1822/home

Thanks all.

[Valter Fukuoka]

Hi, just want to share an update...

Now we don't need a PicKit2 (or equivalent) to program Moculine "OS" into the MCU...

I succeed with a prototype 16F886 Moleculine Factory...
Building It From Scratch, including burning the bootloader using the Raspberry PI and a handmade programmer (less than U$5 Dollars)...

Still a "messy prototype", but it is working... I am putting all the information here:
https://sites.google.com/site/molecfactory/

I am using a handmade programmer developed by Giorgio Vazanna (nickname Holden)...

Nice, cheap, easy...

[Valter Fukuoka]

Hi all, just want to say that now I have all the code and samples for the 16F886 and 16F887 (almost the same set)... on the Moleculine Factory prototype site above...

- MCU burn app (rpp-tlc)

- bootloader firmware

- boot uploader Python app

- sample JAL

Regards.

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