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hans

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Jul 23, 2022, 2:29:44 AM7/23/22
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Hello,
So far I have worked with the wisp648 whenever possible. The Wisp648 has the huge advantage for me that it can be controlled directly from the Jal editor. I wonder if there are more that can work like this.
regards
Hans

Rob CJ

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Jul 23, 2022, 4:13:57 AM7/23/22
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Hi Hans,

The PICKit2 (and I assume the PICkit3) software has a command line interface so it may be possible to control that from JALEdit but I never used it.

Maybe there are people on this forum that have used it like this and can share how to do that.

Kind regards,

Rob

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hans

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Jul 23, 2022, 4:26:19 AM7/23/22
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Hi Rob,
I always use the PICKIT separately but I got questions about it. Does the K150 say anything? I've tried to get it to work but there's always a problem with the driver.
regards
Hans

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Evan Venn

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Jul 23, 2022, 4:42:49 AM7/23/22
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Stated Interest.  I develop and sell PICKitPlus.

A PK2 or PK3 has commandline software for Windows, Pi3&4 and Linux.  If the commandline software fails, if it did as I would be very surprised, we could revise our program to meet specific needs.

Summary.. PICKitPlus should work well.

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Rob CJ

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Jul 24, 2022, 3:33:34 AM7/24/22
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Hi Hans,

What is a K150? 

I - almost - always use a PICKit3 for programming, sometime using the PICKit3 software and sometimes using the IPE software from MPLABX. When using the MPLABX it needs a different firmware and when switching back to the PICKit3 software it needs again the old firmware. My solution: I have 2 PICKit3 one for the PICKit3 software and on for the IPE MPLABX software. It was not intended that way but a long time ago something went wrong with my PICKit3 while it was download the programming software for a certain PIC. I then needed to re-program the PICKit3 itseld and for that .... you need a programmer.

BTW. I added to use of the IPE MPLABX software for a PICKit3 to the Jallib Tutorial some time ago. The disadvantage is that this IPE software is very slow so it you can use the PICKit3 software stay with that.

And if you want your PICKit2 to be able to program more PIC's you can follow the suggestions made earlier or go for Evan's PICKitplus software.

Kind regards,

Rob

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Sunish Issac

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Jul 27, 2022, 8:24:59 AM7/27/22
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Jaledit can program using Pickit 2 and 3. You will need to install IPE. 

Create a batch file and paste the code - Change the path to reflect your computer's IPE installation
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microchip\MPLABX\v5.20\mplab_platform\mplab_ipe\pk3cmd.exe"  -TPPK3 -P%1 -MPIC -F%2 -OL
@if ERRORLEVEL 1 pause


In jaledit you will have to set the path to the batch file and pass %D %F   for the PIC name and file name respectively.
the /V5 is to force Pickit to provide 5V supply

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 Regards,
Sunish

hans

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Jul 27, 2022, 11:16:30 AM7/27/22
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Hi Sunish,
This sounds great ! I have never made a batch file and use the Pickit not for providing 5 Volt\
The IPE is in the regular program file, not in (86), i have foud the same files you mentioned.
. Please give me an example how to make the batch file.
Thanks
Hans

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hans

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Jul 28, 2022, 2:56:26 AM7/28/22
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Hi Sunish,
I have made my first batch:

@ECHO OFF
Echo Gefeliciteerd
PAUSE

"C:\Program Files\Microchip\MPLABX\v5.45\mplab_platform\mplab_ipe\pk3cmd.exe" -TPPK3 -P%1 -MPIC -F%2 -OL
@if ERRORLEVEL 1 pause

It works but gives an error message ; 

Gefeliciteerd
Press any key to continue . . .
Illegal command line parameter T
Press any key to continue . . .
Op woensdag 27 juli 2022 om 17:16:30 UTC+2 schreef hans:

vsurducan

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Jul 28, 2022, 7:12:20 AM7/28/22
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"Gefeliciteerd"
seems ok for me. :)

BTW, if you use pickit4, you will need anyway to install the IPE to change the supply voltage, then to plug and unplug and plug again the pickit until IPE sees it...then fortunately to program something.  Never leave it in the USB when you start the computer if you do not want to send it to Microchip irish office for reflashing the Atmel inside or exchanging with a new one... Pickit4 needs to behave with it as you'll do with eggs. On the opposite of Pickit2/3 which can be reflashed at home...
best wishes


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hans

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Jul 28, 2022, 9:50:34 AM7/28/22
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Tested from  jaledit , it opened the batch  and teh same eror message :
C:\Users\Gebruiker\Desktop>"C:\Program Files\Microchip\MPLABX\v5.45\mplab_platform\mplab_ipe\pk3cmd.exe"  -TPPK3 -Pport -MPIC -Fcom5 -OL

Illegal command line parameter T
Press any key to continue . . .

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hans

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Jul 28, 2022, 9:56:02 AM7/28/22
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Have tested if it works from mplab as i have done until now : (start mplab, load hex file and program,) works perfect

Op donderdag 28 juli 2022 om 15:50:34 UTC+2 schreef hans:

Rob CJ

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Jul 28, 2022, 1:20:18 PM7/28/22
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Hi all,

I have two related questions to this subject. Sunish has made this beautiful JAL extension for Visual Studio Code which I nowadays use for all my JAL developments. There have been some recent updates of Visual Studio Code that eases programming by for example detecting and indicating missing closing brackets.

Did anybody of you ever tried to use Visual Studio Code in combination with a programmer using a commandl ine or script for the PICKit3?

Normally I create my program in Visual Studio Code and compile it from within Visual Studio code using ctrl-shift-b and I use the PICkit3 standalone software in the 'auto reload/program' mode so that when a new hexfile is generated it automatically reprograms my PIC.  This works very fast.

I do believe that if I would use a command line interface and start the programmer from Visual Studio Code that it will be slower since it needs to restart the programmer software each time I want to use it. Or is there another way to do that?

Thanks

Kind regards,

Rob

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Evan Venn

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Jul 28, 2022, 2:02:15 PM7/28/22
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Rob,

We can share our work with VSCode to create GCSTUDIO. We have written the scripting interface and should you decide to leverage our work then this may save months of work.  Our development of GCSTUDIO started in January and we are just completing (scripts, helpers, snippets,  autocomplete etc etc)

Your call, of course.
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Rob CJ

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Jul 29, 2022, 1:07:09 PM7/29/22
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Hi Evan,

Thanks for the info. I do not know GCSTUDIO so not sure how to apply it to the question I had.

I was just wondering if there where people that have tried some kind of integration using Visual Studio Code with a programmer.

I know that Sunish made a field for it but I never tried it. Maybe I should do that first.

Kind regards,

Rob

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Evan Venn

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Jul 29, 2022, 1:14:49 PM7/29/22
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Yes, we have completed that integration work.  We support all the programmers that we have always supported. We can share how we did this.
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hans

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Jul 30, 2022, 9:54:02 AM7/30/22
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Hello,
  I still haven't managed to control the Pickit3 with that batch file.
I have now gone back to the old way, loading the old ones with the Wisp648 and the newer one the hex with Pickit3.
  If I've done something wrong, I'd like to hear about it.
Thank you
regards
Hans

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Evan Venn

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Jul 30, 2022, 11:39:52 AM7/30/22
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You could try moving across to pickitplus and then it would be a lot faster and consistent with support across the range of supported chips whilst still using the pk3.

Rob CJ

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Jul 30, 2022, 1:39:21 PM7/30/22
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Hi Hans,

I cannot send a batch file since it is blocked by Outlook. Create a batchfile e.g. called pic_program.bat with the following content:

Echo off
REM PICkit3 batch file for programming from JALEdit.
Echo Programming Device %1 from file %2 ...
"C:\Program Files\Microchip\MPLABX\v6.00\mplab_platform\mplab_ipe\pk3cmd.exe" -P%1 -F%2 -MPIC


On JALEdit you have to set the following for the programmer:


If you program it from JALEdit you will see this:



Good Luck!

Kind regards,

Rob

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hans

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Jul 30, 2022, 3:41:57 PM7/30/22
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Great Rob !!!

 It works perfect. See the difference with what i had before.:

Files\Microchip\MPLABX\v5.45\mplab_platform\mplab_ipe\pk3cmd.exe"  -TPPK3 -Pport -MPIC -Fcom5 -OL
with now

Echo off

REM PICkit3 batch file for programming from JALEdit.

Echo Programming Device %1 from file %2 ...

"C:\Program Files\Microchip\MPLABX\v5.45\mplab_platform\mplab_ipe\pk3cmd.exe" -P%1 -F%2 -MPIC

Thanks

Hans



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vsurducan

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Jul 31, 2022, 1:48:54 AM7/31/22
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Hi Evan, I never regretted that move with pk2. :)
However, Pickit 4 is definitely much faster ( and much more expensive). Actually nowadays it seems that electronic IC's have become really valuable...
best,

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You could try moving across to pickitplus and then it would be a lot faster and consistent with support across the range of supported chips whilst still using the pk3.

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hans

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Jul 31, 2022, 2:12:52 AM7/31/22
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Hi Rob,
If I want to know more about the commands (-P%1 -F%2 -MPIC), where should I look?
regards
Hans

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evan....@googlemail.com

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Jul 31, 2022, 2:14:55 AM7/31/22
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The PK2 is still a great programmer.  Comes with Logic Analyser and Serial /Usart tester.  For the price it is still good.

We are just about to release Pi PHAT.  A programmer for the Pi.  So, easy to use based upon the same database we use for the PK2.  

I have genuine PK2's available if any one wants a Pk2. 

Rob CJ

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Jul 31, 2022, 2:56:01 AM7/31/22
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Hi Hans.

Good to hear that it works. 

The %1 and %2 are from DOS (Windows), where %1 is the first paramater that you pass to the batch file and %2 is the second paramter.

So when using pic_program 12f683 12f618_thermostaat.hex you pass 12683 as the first parameter and the hexfile as second parameter. And from JALEdit the first parameter is given to the batch file by %D (device) and the second one by %N (hexfile without quotes).

The commmands for the pickit3 software are given when you start the pickit3 software with the argument -? which shows a helpfile. You can also find it here:
Release Notes for PICkit 3 Command Line Interface MPLAB® IDE v8.73 Software and Firmware versions: MPPICkit3.dll v1.0.1.49 PK3CMD.exe v1.00.12 PICkit 3 Suite (OS/FW) v1.26.65 (PK3FW_012665.jam) June 24, 2011 ----- Table of Contents ----- 1.
Kind regards,

Rob


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hans

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Jul 31, 2022, 5:45:03 AM7/31/22
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Hi Rob,
I just keep leaning against your knowledge and just trying to make those little black bugs work for me. I don't understand what goes on inside those things either, but it's still great fun.
Thank you
regards
Hans
PS Henk Zeeman is well known to me

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