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Are any J92 owners out there going with dacron mainsails? Looking at my options and would appreciate any feedback. Thanks in advance. --
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On Jan 14, 2022, at 4:43 PM, Deirdre Mailloux <d73p6...@gmail.com> wrote:
Went with North Radian last season and worked quite well (Trying to attach photos)Patrick
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On Jan 13, 2022, at 7:09 PM, Wayne Connelly <wayneco...@gmail.com> wrote:--Are any J92 owners out there going with dacron mainsails? Looking at my options and would appreciate any feedback. Thanks in advance. --
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I wonder, if allowed, would other than crosscut mains be preferred (faster)?
And if there any J105s not racing OD that sail with mains other than the crosscut dacron required by the OD rules?
Any input is appreciated.
Wayne
On Jan 15, 2022, at 2:35 PM, Wayne Connelly <wayneco...@gmail.com> wrote:
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The questions, for which answers are not posed in this thread but I suggest are items to consider and should be asked by the sail sales guy,
What do you use the boat for?
PHRF, OD, goofing around, some combo?
HOW long do you want the sail to last: a) as performance, b) structurally
What is your budget?
How long to you plan to keep the boat?
IF you race, is your crew work high level? Medium, or just mates?
Can you get clean starts and go around corners? CAN the crew perform at a level equal to an expensive sail?
Coz if you cannot do that cleanly 95% of the time, go and work on that before spending 3-6k on a sail
THE goal being to find the best value product that will match your program. All sail fabric is a compromise.
Regarding the performance of one fabric over another, yes the “high performance materials”, the string sails tend to be the fastest.
But, and I understand this is not so much an issue in a 30 footer mainsail, the TP 52 class can determine the performance degradation in a fiber path sail after about 30 hours, 2-4 boat lengths in a 45 minute race. So, one regatta basically.
J-24 and other OD classes have the same issues, though a lot more subjective measurement methods.
Yes they are extreme, but that is a measured fact.
North, Doyle Quantum and to some extent UK all have “string sails”.
They all have their plusses and minuses.
Even a one man shop can get a string sail, there are firms that make such sails for smaller lofts.
There are technical aspects of radial Dacron that does not make sense from a weaving point of view and the fabrics so made generally tend to have a lot of finishing resin in them.
BOTH Dimension and Contender offer a product that is a sporty fiber, Technora, Aramid, and carbon bit at more cost, that can be made using the cross cut construction method. These fabrics were developed exactly to address the higher cost of making tri radial sails-the latter take longer to make.
Any of the major names can make a perfectly fine sail in any fabric and combination of fibers you want to pay for.
The biggest, and I suggest the most value variable is to get a rep who is on your side of the table. Who will come and check your boat, measure the deflection of the mast the way you have it set up.
It is most common for sails for such widely known sails to be made from existing sail files. YU will get a generic J92 mainsail and you will never see the rep. This means amongst other things you will likely need to change your rig set up when the sail arrives.
This is a transactional way to buy an expensive thing.
Full disclosure, I work in this very business, hence the list of questions at the beginning.
Cheers
Coop
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And Nor-Dac is “just” Dacron. NOT in the same genealogy as 3Di.
It is a woven, roll good fabric. Meaning it come from a cloth vendor, or the weavers, in a truck, on a roll, like paper towels.
It has been promoted for 15 years as North Dacron.
Implying they make it. They do not own production looms. They have a couple for R&D.
North, like all sailmakers buy material from one of the 4,5 cloth vendors.
They are big enough, tho’, that they can source directly from the weavers too, Kenyon and Glen raven mills, in the US.
The cross cut OD main discussion is sound.
C
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