I have been thinking of changing also … my research so far says Rocna is the preferred choice for most conditions but would like to hear from others on this … we sail mostly in SW Florida
Thks
Bud
SV Pooh - J40
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On Mar 30, 2025, at 11:15, Milton Calder <milt....@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Mar 30, 2025, at 11:43, 'Graeme Nichol' via J/4X Owner's Group <j4x-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Thank you!
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On Mar 30, 2025, at 11:54, 'Graeme Nichol' via J/4X Owner's Group <j4x-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I have looked at the Galvanized Fixed Shank Scoop Anchor
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On Mar 30, 2025, at 12:16, 'rers...@netscape.net' via J/4X Owner's Group <j4x-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
18 years with a Rocna 55 lb on the bow. Long shank impact on bottom of roller furling drum is the problem, necessitating hand retrieval/launch with left foot holding down chain and shank as it tips over the bow roller Definitely a PIA, but she stowed clamped in place and tidy.
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On Mar 30, 2025, at 16:30, 'Todd Stevens' via J/4X Owner's Group <j4x-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hmm. Mine does not impact the roller. The only difference I see is I don’t have that top roller, but have a stout pin in the forward corner. (To which the downhaul attaches via snapshackle).
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On Mar 30, 2025, at 14:07, 'rers...@netscape.net' via J/4X Owner's Group <j4x-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Amazing that your Rocna can self launch. Mine never had enough weight forward of the anchor roller to tip it over the roller by ilself, needing a helpful foot to get the shank under the furling drum. The top roller tended to help keep the shank from hitting the drum, and clamped the stowed anchor between top and bottom rollers with some tension on the chain.Reed Cayenne J42 #65 and missing her.On Sunday, March 30, 2025 at 4:30:18 PM UTC-4 Todd Stevens wrote:Hmm. Mine does not impact the roller. The only difference I see is I don’t have that top roller, but have a stout pin in the forward corner. (To which the downhaul attaches via snapshackle).I also have one of those AnchorLift anchor turners, which you can see if you look closely. IDK if that makes a difference. I launch and retrieve from the remote station at the helm. No worries.When the old Fortress was up there, (no turner) it did whack the furler. It rides on the pushpit now.Wonderful broad reach in 12 knots out in Canal De San Lorenzo this afternoon, and nobody else has a sail up. Their loss.On Mar 30, 2025, at 12:16, 'rers...@netscape.net' via J/4X Owner's Group <j4x-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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On Mar 31, 2025, at 12:36 PM, Ken austin <kdau...@gmail.com> wrote:
Agree that is a great artcle,and website, which lead me to get a Spade for upcoming S Pacific trip
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Agree that is a great artcle,and website, which lead me to get a Spade for upcoming S Pacific trip
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On May 28, 2025, at 9:44 PM, douglas wilder <douglas....@gmail.com> wrote:
i use a 87# mantis series-1, max scope 220 feet of 3/8”, never drags include in 62 feet of water.
the following you channels should checked out the guys does a great job showing the anchors testing.
David,
I think you might be referring to a thread initiated by a query from me on the subject “J4X's and lobster warp”. It includes photos of several owners’ small deflecting fins. I had one fiberglassed on to my new to me 42. About to test it on a delivery from Annapolis to Maine.
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Bill
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On Jun 8, 2025, at 11:36, Rod Deyo <roder...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's possible the jackline over the open windlass switches also raised the anchor. Perhaps this caused the bending. You might want to inslect tbe windlass carefully, especially the motor and gears.When underway we try to alway turn the windlass breaker off to avoid it coming on unexpectedly.To secure a Rockna with the roller pin, a twist shackle can be used or a short spectra line thru the top hole. Also, it's a good idea to attach a SS clip and line to the anchor chain directly.Rod DeyoJ/42 Northern Lights (#61)
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025, 11:10 'Todd Stevens' via J/4X Owner's Group <j4x-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
So, I lost the Rocna. :(Expensive lesson learned. I'll confess to my stupidity in case it helps someone else avoid similar. I'm still not exactly sure what happened, because it was hidden from me by the dinghy lashed on the foredeck and general chaotic noises of the situation.It happened while s/v Wild was reaching across one of the elefante zones in the northern Sea of Cortez. There was an extended period (several hours) of fairly violent boat motion. All my attention was focused on trying to keep the rig stable and the boat moving. Here's my best guess: (You'll see where this is going, but please hold your comments until the end.)
Jack line thrashing around flips open windlass switch covers and somehow (under load?) momentarily activates the "down" switch and launches the anchor.
<IMG_9608.jpeg>Loose anchor starts thrashing around violently. Leaves some dings in the gel coat.
<IMG_9610.jpeg>Despite the Red LocTite, set screw of the Anchor Turner works out (maybe heat was generated?) and violent motion of the anchor bends the jaws open.
<IMG_9413.jpeg>Anchor drops into the sea. (Why didn't the pin fall out?).When we arrived at the evening's anchorage, I found the anchor turner and swivel resting on the roller in the launch position and No Anchor !!!! Had to quickly bring the stern anchor forward and re-rig.OK, now you can say it. "Always lash the anchor under way!"So, I had a new anchor delivered to Phoenix, sailed to Puerto Peñasco, and rented a car to go get it. Now, how to avoid this happening again?The "lashing hole" provided on the anchor does not happen to line up with the hole provided on the bow roller. But with a small lift on the rollbar, I can pin it into the "bail" hole. Easy enough to do in a marina, but leaning over the pulpit to do it in a choppy sea may be a bit hazardous. One could drill a new hole in the anchor for that purpose, but I'd rather not.
<IMG_9609.jpeg>But that "bail" bolt is where I tack the spinnaker. (I've also been using the downhaul setup to control the boom preventer.) I guess I could still do both??
<IMG_9611.jpeg>For now, I'm just using a piece of rope, because it is too unwieldy to lean over the bow with a pair of wrenches to remove that bolt while coasting in to (or powering out of) a dynamic anchorage.I guess I'll send away for a clevis pin. Not immediately easy to find one in 316SS in that size. Looking for something like this, but maybe with a more secure retainer.
<hitch pin.jpg>Anyone happen to have a specific bit of hardware that works well for this?And/or one could lay out cash to have something fabricated in place of the (missing) port side bow roller, and rig the spinnaker through that. (No sense working just one problem at a time, when you could have five!) Or is there a specific source for that? I've got to get all the measuring and ordering out of the way before I leave the boat for the summer, 1 July.


On Jun 8, 2025, at 11:36, Rod Deyo <roder...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's possible the jackline over the open windlass switches also raised the anchor. Perhaps this caused the bending. You might want to inslect tbe windlass carefully, especially the motor and gears.When underway we try to alway turn the windlass breaker off to avoid it coming on unexpectedly.To secure a Rockna with the roller pin, a twist shackle can be used or a short spectra line thru the top hole. Also, it's a good idea to attach a SS clip and line to the anchor chain directly.Rod DeyoJ/42 Northern Lights (#61)
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025, 11:10 'Todd Stevens' via J/4X Owner's Group <j4x-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
So, I lost the Rocna. :(Expensive lesson learned. I'll confess to my stupidity in case it helps someone else avoid similar. I'm still not exactly sure what happened, because it was hidden from me by the dinghy lashed on the foredeck and general chaotic noises of the situation.It happened while s/v Wild was reaching across one of the elefante zones in the northern Sea of Cortez. There was an extended period (several hours) of fairly violent boat motion. All my attention was focused on trying to keep the rig stable and the boat moving. Here's my best guess: (You'll see where this is going, but please hold your comments until the end.)
Jack line thrashing around flips open windlass switch covers and somehow (under load?) momentarily activates the "down" switch and launches the anchor.
<IMG_9608.jpeg>Loose anchor starts thrashing around violently. Leaves some dings in the gel coat.
<IMG_9610.jpeg>Despite the Red LocTite, set screw of the Anchor Turner works out (maybe heat was generated?) and violent motion of the anchor bends the jaws open.
<IMG_9413.jpeg>Anchor drops into the sea. (Why didn't the pin fall out?).When we arrived at the evening's anchorage, I found the anchor turner and swivel resting on the roller in the launch position and No Anchor !!!! Had to quickly bring the stern anchor forward and re-rig.OK, now you can say it. "Always lash the anchor under way!"So, I had a new anchor delivered to Phoenix, sailed to Puerto Peñasco, and rented a car to go get it. Now, how to avoid this happening again?The "lashing hole" provided on the anchor does not happen to line up with the hole provided on the bow roller. But with a small lift on the rollbar, I can pin it into the "bail" hole. Easy enough to do in a marina, but leaning over the pulpit to do it in a choppy sea may be a bit hazardous. One could drill a new hole in the anchor for that purpose, but I'd rather not.
<IMG_9609.jpeg>But that "bail" bolt is where I tack the spinnaker. (I've also been using the downhaul setup to control the boom preventer.) I guess I could still do both??
<IMG_9611.jpeg>For now, I'm just using a piece of rope, because it is too unwieldy to lean over the bow with a pair of wrenches to remove that bolt while coasting in to (or powering out of) a dynamic anchorage.I guess I'll send away for a clevis pin. Not immediately easy to find one in 316SS in that size. Looking for something like this, but maybe with a more secure retainer.
<hitch pin.jpg>Anyone happen to have a specific bit of hardware that works well for this?And/or one could lay out cash to have something fabricated in place of the (missing) port side bow roller, and rig the spinnaker through that. (No sense working just one problem at a time, when you could have five!) Or is there a specific source for that? I've got to get all the measuring and ordering out of the way before I leave the boat for the summer, 1 July.