J/4X Directory?

[jmru...@gmail.com]

Everyone,

I wanted to solicit interest in a J/4X Directory.   Here's a link to the J/40 Roster that Al Schreitmueller maintained for years:  

https://j40sailors.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/j40roster2020-06.pdf.  

I've not come across a similar roster for other J/4X boats.  My thought would be to create something in Google Sheets to archive similar data for J/40, J/42, J/44, and J/46 owners.  I'm willing to create and maintain it, if there's interest.  Since this Owner's Group is already closed to outside web surfers, I assume our privacy would be maintained by the use of a Google Sheet as the platform.  

Thoughts?

Joe

J/40 hull 45 -- Spada

[William Stellin]

I would welcome an owners roster for the J4x group of owners and boats

Bill J/42 #6

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[Dave Moore]

Joe,

yes, happy to participate

Liberty, J/40 hull number 11

Thank you !

Dave Moore

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[Steve Rowell]

Good idea.

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[Ed S]

I like the idea. And maybe one field for notes such as typical cruising grounds or where a boat is based.

Regards,

Ed

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Everyone,

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[Tom Keffer]

Just a clarification: this group is open to the public. Anyone can read posts and anyone can join. There is no moderating.

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-tk

[Bernie Coyne]

Hi folks:

 

I like the concept of a directory, but the long term issue is who will maintain it?  I used to maintain a webpage for the J/42 class until the hosting service was discontinued.  It was not much work but like anything required constant updates.  So I really like the idea of using a Google Sheet that everyone can maintain the information themselves.

 

But how secure can we make the Google Sheet?   Our J/4x group is actually public so anyone can read it including any links to a Google Sheet.  You need to be a member only to reply or post new messages.  So we would need to either password protect the sheet or provide a hidden link to members when they join or request it.  Is this something Tom Keffer, the group’s moderator, would be willing to do?  Perhaps there is another alternative to securing it?  

 

Bernie Coyne

  Mystic Rose J/46 #10

 

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[Graeme Nichol]

Great idea. 

Google sheets are perfect for this. 

Graeme

SV Fin

J40

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On Sep 15, 2020, at 19:01, Bernie Coyne <bernie...@outlook.com> wrote:



Hi folks:

 

I like the concept of a directory, but the long term issue is who will maintain it?  I used to maintain a webpage for the J/42 class until the hosting service was discontinued.  It was not much work but like anything required constant updates.  So I really like the idea of using a Google Sheet that everyone can maintain the information themselves.

 

But how secure can we make the Google Sheet?   Our J/4x group is actually public so anyone can read it including any links to a Google Sheet.  You need to be a member only to reply or post new messages.  So we would need to either password protect the sheet or provide a hidden link to members when they join or request it.  Is this something Tom Keffer, the group’s moderator, would be willing to do?  Perhaps there is another alternative to securing it?  

 

Bernie Coyne

  Mystic Rose J/46 #10

 

Bernie Coyne

Email: bernie...@outlook.com

Cell/text: 781-789-0762

 

Please wear your mask!  Wearing is caring.

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Subject: [J/4X-owners] J/4X Directory?

 

Everyone,

 

I wanted to solicit interest in a J/4X Directory.   Here's a link to the J/40 Roster that Al Schreitmueller maintained for years:  

 

https://j40sailors.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/j40roster2020-06.pdf.  

 

I've not come across a similar roster for other J/4X boats.  My thought would be to create something in Google Sheets to archive similar data for J/40, J/42, J/44, and J/46 owners.  I'm willing to create and maintain it, if there's interest.  Since this Owner's Group is already closed to outside web surfers, I assume our privacy would be maintained by the use of a Google Sheet as the platform.  

 

Thoughts?

 

Joe

J/40 hull 45 -- Spada

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[Tom Keffer]

Bernie, I remember that page you maintained. Wasn't it viewable by the public?

One can protect a Google sheet so it is viewable by only named people or a Google group. However, right now, anyone can join our group, so, in theory, anyone could see the sheet by just joining the group.

We could require approval to join the group. That's the way we did it back when we were hosted by Yahoo groups. I didn't feel it necessary with Google groups because their anti-spam system is so good, but we could add it back.

If we go that direction, I could really use another moderator for the J/4x group to avoid delays. When we were on Yahoo, sometimes it took weeks before I could get back to someone.

-tk

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[William Ditty]

Sounds good to me as well (with the security/privacy you mentioned:)).

Many regards,

BIll D

J/42 #46

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[John Plominski]

Googlesheets are perfect for this. Please include us.

-Drew

J40 #79 Artemisia

Boston, MA

[Joseph Ruzzi]

Since the J/40 Directory was already online here: https://j40sailors.com/owners/, I assumed it would be ok to use it as a test-bed for a broader J/4X version.   I converted the pdf into a GoogleSheet, and added a couple more columns, including boat class, cruising area, and finally one for status.  

Below is the GoogleSheet version: 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AwkB5Qaz8D71JOFTTJQzsg7zHYCggudW-L6K6Lf348c/edit?usp=sharing

I set the protection of the spreadsheet to "off", so anyone can update their own information if they choose to do so.  Again, I'm willing to populate/maintain the Directory, and Steve Babcock volunteered to help.  To get a sense of the scale of the data, we can use the production numbers from the J/Boats website:

J/40: 86 -- Done.

J/42: 77

J/44: 68

J/46: 35

       266

Having an initial cut with the J/40 data gets us 1/3rd of the way there.   

Take a look and let me know what you think.  

Regards,

Joe

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[Bernie Coyne]

Very nice….thank you for getting this started Joe!  I agree that having this owner-maintaining is the best way to go!!

 

I have entered the first J/46 row – Mystic Rose #10.

 

Cheers,

Bernie

 

Bernie Coyne

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[Tom Keffer]

Thanks for putting this together, Joe!

Consider a column for "Year".

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[jmru...@gmail.com]

Everyone,

Since we're trying this in a self-updated mode, I added a new column at the far right for "Last Update".   If you're either entering a new boat or just validating your info, please enter the date into that cell.  For the owners who entered a new boat today, I've added that value for you.

Tom, when I check "Group info", it doesn't show the number of members.   Do you have access to that info?   On other groups where I'm the owner, Google shows the number of members.  I'm just thinking of gauging it against the 266 J/4X boats to get  a sense of the number of owners we're reaching.      

Joe

[Tom Keffer]

Presently, the J/4X group has 113 members.

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[William Stellin]

Thanks for starting Sheets for our group. I’ve added JAYWALKER

Bill Stellin #6

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[kent.n...@verizon.net]

I have added J 42 Panasea.

Kent Nicholas

 

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Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 11:33 AM
To: J/4X Owner's Group <j4x-owne...@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: [J/4X-owners] J/4X Directory?

 

Everyone,

 

Since we're trying this in a self-updated mode, I added a new column at the far right for "Last Update".   If you're either entering a new boat or just validating your info, please enter the date into that cell.  For the owners who entered a new boat today, I've added that value for you.

 

Tom, when I check "Group info", it doesn't show the number of members.   Do you have access to that info?   On other groups where I'm the owner, Google shows the number of members.  I'm just thinking of gauging it against the 266 J/4X boats to get  a sense of the number of owners we're reaching.      

 

Joe

On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 8:21:15 AM UTC-4 coyne...@gmail.com wrote:

Very nice….thank you for getting this started Joe!  I agree that having this owner-maintaining is the best way to go!!

 

I have entered the first J/46 row – Mystic Rose #10.

 

Cheers,

Bernie

 

Bernie Coyne

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Cell/text: 781-789-0762

 

Please wear your mask!  Wearing is caring.

 

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Subject: Re: [J/4X-owners] J/4X Directory?

 

Since the J/40 Directory was already online here: https://j40sailors.com/owners/, I assumed it would be ok to use it as a test-bed for a broader J/4X version.   I converted the pdf into a GoogleSheet, and added a couple more columns, including boat class, cruising area, and finally one for status.  

 

Below is the GoogleSheet version: 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AwkB5Qaz8D71JOFTTJQzsg7zHYCggudW-L6K6Lf348c/edit?usp=sharing

 

I set the protection of the spreadsheet to "off", so anyone can update their own information if they choose to do so.  Again, I'm willing to populate/maintain the Directory, and Steve Babcock volunteered to help.  To get a sense of the scale of the data, we can use the production numbers from the J/Boats website:

J/40: 86 -- Done.

J/42: 77

J/44: 68

J/46: 35

       266

Having an initial cut with the J/40 data gets us 1/3rd of the way there.   

 

Take a look and let me know what you think.  

 

Regards,

 

Joe

 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 3:57 PM John Plominski <drew.pl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Googlesheets are perfect for this. Please include us

 

-Drew

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[Bill Bowers]

Hi Joe,

Great resource.

I added ConverJence J42 #3.

Thanks!

Bill Bowers

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[Helen Van Eck]

Bob VanEck,TANGO J40 # 38,thanks for doing this,I've updated our information.

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[Tom Keffer]

I wanted to remind everyone about Joe's J/4X registry. 

It's entirely voluntary, but interesting and useful. Make sure your information is up to date!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AwkB5Qaz8D71JOFTTJQzsg7zHYCggudW-L6K6Lf348c/edit#gid=0

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