RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

[KASHIF RIAZ]

Dear Zaman, Nice to know that you guys are having used wheelchairs. Do you have any plan/strategy in mind about sending them to Pakistan? I am also based in UK and do let me know if i can be of any help. Best, K. --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Zaman, Akhtar <akhtar...@bolton.gov.uk> wrote: From: Zaman, Akhtar <akhtar...@bolton.gov.uk> Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com, izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com, izhars...@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 10:09 AM Dear Friends I can explore the possibility of getting used wheelchairs from our local Hospital Trust where I am governor and a friend of mine is Chairman of the Trust.   But the question is can you get this to Pakistan?   Regards Councillor Akhtar Zaman Bolton Metropolitan Borough Council       From: izhars...@googlegroups.com on behalf of Azhar Saeed Sent: Sun 24/05/2009 06:08 To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles   Dear Safeer, Salim, Rehmat or whoever sent this mail. Very good initiative ... much appreciated. Appeals such as yours are supposed to generate good response. Just one thought; very few people care to open the attachment. Please consider developing something short and striking which could go as email instead of a separate file. By the way, I will pay for the cost of one wheel chair and one trycycle. If unmet needs persist, i would like to sit with you guys to explore what else can be done. best Azhar    Azhar Saeed Director Inventure Research and Management Consulting 361, Street 64, I - 8/3 Islamabad, Pakistan Phone: +92-51-4863749 Cell: +92-321-5233759   > Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:49:06 +0700 > Subject: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles > From: iradah....@gmail.com > To: izhars...@googlegroups.com > > Dear Friends and Supporters of IRADAH > > We have attached an appeal for wheelchairs and tricycles. IRADAH is in > serious need of these two items in particular. Try to help IRADAH as > much as you can. Please forward this message to as many people as you > can. > > Thank you > > Rehmat un Nisa > > IRADAH > Rehabilitation Centre for the Disabled > Bochal Kalan District Chakwal > cell # +92-333-5913530 > office # +92-543-446030, +92-543-586630 > Fax # +92-543-586630 > http://www.iradah.org > iradah....@gmail.com > > Mission > To raise awareness among the society for the disabled people and to > provide services for their rehabilitation and assimilation Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. See how. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and may also be legally privileged. They are intended solely for the intended addressee. If you are not the addressee please e-mail it back to the sender and then immediately, permanently delete it. Do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it. This e-mail may be monitored by Bolton Council in accordance with current regulations. This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses currently known to Bolton Council. However, the recipient is responsible for virus-checking before opening this message and any attachment. Unless expressly stated to the contrary, any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Bolton Council. http://www.bolton.gov.uk

[anb...@bedari.org.pk]

Hi there,

 

I don’t know what IRADAH would respond to this offer of receiving the wheel chairs from abroad. I think it would be quiet expensive to bring them here in Pakistan. However I can suggest two options,

 

1.       In case of smaller number of the wheelchairs, they can be sold there and money can be transferred to IRADAH

2.       In case of bigger number of chairs we can contribute or collect money for their transportation (I don’t know how much would it cost)

 

I think Mr. Zaman can let us know and can lead the process in coordination with those living in UK and are willing to contribute.

 

Regards

Anbreen

Pakistan

 

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[Mohammad Tariq]

Dear All
Talk to custom authorities they may have some guidelines to exempt these from duty, if there is any, and try to consult UNICEF or USAID may be any other International humanitarian org, to assist you in the transportation cost, if all these efforts are not more than the cost/amount/value of these wheel chairs, than go for it.
Regards

 

Muhammad Tariq

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From: "anb...@bedari.org.pk" <anb...@bedari.org.pk>
To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 11:41:51 AM

Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

Hi there,

 

I don’t know what IRADAH would respond to this offer of receiving the wheel chairs from abroad. I think it would be quiet expensive to bring them here in Pakistan . However I can suggest two options,

 

1.       In case of smaller number of the wheelchairs, they can be sold there and money can be transferred to IRADAH

2.       In case of bigger number of chairs we can contribute or collect money for their transportation (I don’t know how much would it cost)

 

I think Mr. Zaman can let us know and can lead the process in coordination with those living in UK and are willing to contribute.

 

Regards

Anbreen

Pakistan

 

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From: izhars...@googlegroups.com [mailto:izhars...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of KASHIF RIAZ
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:28 AM
To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

 

Dear Zaman,   Nice to know that you guys are having used wheelchairs.

Do you have any plan/strategy in mind about sending them to Pakistan ? I am also based in UK and do let me know if i can be of any help.

[Mujeeb Ur-Rehman]

Hi there,

I am also based in the UK (Glasgow) and let me know if I could be of any assistance in collection on wheel chairs from the UK.

 

I think, generally, second hand equipment from the UK are in most cases good quality stuff. You may also know that the producers make country specific equipments quality, and for somehow the standards in Pakistan are not as high as these are in the UK. As a result a brand new equipment imported in Pakistan might not be of as good quality as those imported in the UK - from the same source. So, I think we must consider collecting second use wheelchairs from the UK, if possible. I will look into it what I can do from this end.

 

In any case, its a good cause and keep me posted.

 

Mujeeb

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From: "anb...@bedari.org.pk" <anb...@bedari.org.pk>
To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 7:41:51 AM

Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

Hi there,

 

I don’t know what IRADAH would respond to this offer of receiving the wheel chairs from abroad. I think it would be quiet expensive to bring them here in Pakistan . However I can suggest two options,

 

1.       In case of smaller number of the wheelchairs, they can be sold there and money can be transferred to IRADAH

2.       In case of bigger number of chairs we can contribute or collect money for their transportation (I don’t know how much would it cost)

 

I think Mr. Zaman can let us know and can lead the process in coordination with those living in UK and are willing to contribute.

 

Regards

Anbreen

Pakistan

 

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From: izhars...@googlegroups.com [mailto:izhars...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of KASHIF RIAZ
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:28 AM
To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

 

Dear Zaman,   Nice to know that you guys are having used wheelchairs.

Do you have any plan/strategy in mind about sending them to Pakistan ? I am also based in UK and do let me know if i can be of any help.

[Asim Zafar]

Hope this email find best health of you, my Name is Asim Zafar. I am working with different organizations as a consultant. I am also working for the betterment of PWDS in Pakistan since I got disability. I am using the wheelchair; I also got study from Japan and APCD Asia Pacific Center on Disability,

 

We are also producing the wheelchairs in Lahore special design by Japan, its very smart and light weight wheelchairs with cushion for especially Spinal Cord people and other disabilities.

 

The available wheelchair in the market is made by china, cost of one china wheelchair is Pakistani Rs: 7000 to 8000 with out warranty, which is very huge and heavy weight wheelchair, it’s very difficult to carry those wheelchairs for the disabled persons,

 

I am totally agreed with Ms. Anbreen it would be quiet expensive to bring them here in Pakistan.

 

 I can suggest and  help for the assembling of the wheelchairs with 1 year warranty; I hope it would be quiet cheep for you,   

 

Best Regards,

Mian Asim Zafar 
Project Manager/Consultant 

PAYAAM FOUNDATION

 

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From: anb...@bedari.org.pk

To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:41:51 +0500

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[Safeer Ullah Khan]

From: Tauqeer Malik [mailto:tauqee...@binqutab.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:18 PM
To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com
Cc: bashir...@binqutab.com
Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

 

Dear All,

 

My company name is Bin Qutab International and we are engaged in international freight forwarding worldwide.

As per my knowledge imported used items are banned in Pakistan, so we could not import used wheel chairs.

 

Regarding exemption in custom duties, we could import with name of that company who has exemption certificate from Govt of Pakistan, there is no other way.

 

I could assist you more on this once I have full information about these wheel chairs.

 

With regards.

 

 

Tauqeer Malik

Bin Qutab International

Gulberg, Lahore.

UAN:0092-42-111-637-37

Website: www.binqutab.com

 

[Raza Abidi]

I can contribute some money. Just let me know. The best option, I think, is to purchase wheelchairs produced in Pakistan. Their maintenance would be easy. Please do not get involved in the complicated custom duties and clearance obstacles. The officials will make your life miserable. They do not know what human suffering is.
Raza Ali Abidi

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From: miana...@hotmail.com

To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:27:20 +0000

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[KASHIF RIAZ]

Assalam-o-alaikum, I hope my email finds you in the best of health and Imaan. @ Atif bhai, i hope you are well. Sorry for contacting you late.   @ Anbreen, i am already in contact with some people to transfer these chairs to PK. @ Mujeeb, Good to know about your stay in UK. I appreciate if all concerned members of IRADAH staying in UK make a UK based group and collectively try to contribute towards IRADAH. @ Asim Zafar, Nice to knwo about your education and especially you are involved in assembling wheelchairs. Could you please tell me how much does your wheelchair cost? MAy Allah help us and show us a way to achieve this target of collecting wheelchairs. Ameen Massalama, Kashif --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Asim Zafar <miana...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[Asim Zafar]

Dear Freands

 

I also got some used wheelchair from Japan as a donation, My Japanese friend send us at their own expenses, but I got after one year from the Lahore dry port after long struggle and by the wasting lot of money. Because in Pakistan we have ban on used wheelchairs by Ministry of Commerce,

 

Best Regards

Mian Asim Zafar 
Project Manager/Consultant 

PAYAAM FOUNDATION

 

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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 01:23:41 -0700
From: mtar...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles
To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com

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[Tanveer Ahmad]

 
I think its smart idea to arrange wheelchairs in Pakistan & by that way it also help to pakistan's economy as well.


Tanveer Ahmad


 

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From: miana...@hotmail.com

To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:27:20 +0000

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[Khasnabis, Chapal]

Dear all,

 

Thank you to all for your excellent response. I understand the need and also the need for such an appeal but problem is much bigger than many of you envisaging. It needs larger action and support.

 

I work for World Health Organization in Geneva and quite involved with assistive devices programme especially on wheelchair provision.  The need of wheelchair is on increase especially due to conflict, road traffic injuries, population growth and ageing. It is estimated that there is about 1% of any population need wheelchair. Considering this Pakistan needs more than a million wheelchairs. Majority of the wheelchair users are poor so most of these wheelchairs need to be subsidized. Wheelchair is not a sheep, goat, cow or a sewing machine - one cannot just distribute the wheelchair though it is a common practice in the developing world. Dimension, health condition, need and living environment of each person is different. Wheelchairs never get distributed in the west - each wheelchair comes with a prescription and dimension, wheelchair user as well as rehabilitation personnel play a big role in deciding or choosing a wheelchair. Wheelchair needs to satisfy the person's need - it should not be in other way.

 

According to Convention on the Rights of the Persons with Disabilities, Article 20 on Personal mobility:

 

States Parties shall take effective measures to ensure personal mobility with the greatest possible independence for persons with disabilities, including by:

 

a) Facilitating the personal mobility of persons with disabilities in the manner and at the time of their choice, and at affordable cost;

 

b) Facilitating access by persons with disabilities to quality mobility aids, devices, assistive technologies and forms of live assistance and intermediaries, including by making them available at affordable cost;

 

c) Providing training in mobility skills to persons with disabilities and to specialist staff working with persons with disabilities;

 

d) Encouraging entities that produce mobility aids, devices and assistive technologies to take into account all aspects of mobility for persons with disabilities.

 

All the steps you all are suggesting show your good intention but it will fail to meet the demand. State, NGOs and INGOs need to work together to address this issue - please convene a National Workshop, if required. WHO Guidelines on wheelchair provision could be one of the key background documents for the national workshop to develop a sustainable strategy for Pakistan.  Like most of the countries especially where population is more than 100 million, one need a large scale production facilities or some similar arrangements to ensure persons with disabilities across the country can access quality wheelchairs. If you want to have more information about the guidelines please refer the website http://www.who.int/disabilities/technology/en/

 

With best wishes - Chapal

 

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[KASHIF RIAZ]

Guys, I appreciate this idea and i will donate 1 wheelchair Insha Allah and will transfer money to IRADAH for that. Best for now, Kashif Riaz| Techconsultant Ltd. www.techconsultant.eu  | blog.kashifriaz.eu  | www.kashifriaz.eu View my profile on Linkedin NOTICE  The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. www.techconsultant.eu is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt. Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the author. This email was scanned for viruses but www.techconsultant.eu does not accept responsibility for any computer virus which may be transmitted by this message. P Please consider the environment and do not print this email unless absolutely necessary  --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Tanveer Ahmad <tanv...@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Tanveer Ahmad <tanv...@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com, izhars...@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 1:12 PM

I think its smart idea to arrange wheelchairs in Pakistan & by that way it also help to pakistan's economy as well. Tanveer Ahmad

[imran nazir]

Dear Group Members   Greetings from LCDDP   I suggest Rehmat and her team to get the wheel chairs from Pakistan Bait-ul-Mall (PBM) through Milestones. I spoke to Mr. Shafique of Milestones at Islamabad last week. PBM has changed its application form and I can send the scanned copy of the same if needed. Fill in the form and get is signed from concerned officers from Chakwal and then submit it through Milestones. PBM is giving wheelchairs in hundreds. Recently they have distributed hundreds of chairs in Multan city   Nice day Imran Nazir Programme Manager Pakistan Leonard Cheshire Disability and Development Programme Islamabad Pakistan      Imran Nazir    "Absolutely no one can underestimate the power of the mind and its role in success! It is imperative to keep our minds on the right track if we are to achieve balanced success in our careers, finances, health, emotions, relationships and spiritual lives." --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Khasnabis, Chapal <khasn...@who.int> wrote:

From: Khasnabis, Chapal <khasn...@who.int> Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com, izhars...@googlegroups.com

Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 7:30 AM Dear all,

Thank you to all for your excellent response. I understand the need and also the need for such an appeal but problem is much bigger than many of you envisaging. It needs larger action and support.

I work for World Health Organization in Geneva and quite involved with assistive devices programme especially on wheelchair provision.  The need of wheelchair is on increase especially due to conflict, road traffic injuries, population growth and ageing. It is estimated that there is about 1% of any population need wheelchair. Considering this Pakistan needs more than a million wheelchairs. Majority of the wheelchair users are poor so most of these wheelchairs need to be subsidized. Wheelchair is not a sheep, goat, cow or a sewing machine - one cannot just distribute the wheelchair though it is a common practice in the developing world. Dimension, health condition, need and living environment of each person is different. Wheelchairs never get distributed in the west - each wheelchair comes with a prescription and dimension, wheelchair user as well as rehabilitation personnel play a big role in deciding or choosing a wheelchair. Wheelchair needs to satisfy the person's need - it should not be in other way.

According to Convention on the Rights of the Persons with Disabilities, Article 20 on Personal mobility:

States Parties shall take effective measures to ensure personal mobility with the greatest possible independence for persons with disabilities, including by:

a) Facilitating the personal mobility of persons with disabilities in the manner and at the time of their choice, and at affordable cost;

b) Facilitating access by persons with disabilities to quality mobility aids, devices, assistive technologies and forms of live assistance and intermediaries, including by making them available at affordable cost;

c) Providing training in mobility skills to persons with disabilities and to specialist staff working with persons with disabilities;

d) Encouraging entities that produce mobility aids, devices and assistive technologies to take into account all aspects of mobility for persons with disabilities.

All the steps you all are suggesting show your good intention but it will fail to meet the demand. State, NGOs and INGOs need to work together to address this issue - please convene a National Workshop, if required. WHO Guidelines on wheelchair provision could be one of the key background documents for the national workshop to develop a sustainable strategy for Pakistan .  Like most of the countries especially where population is more than 100 million, one need a large scale production facilities or some similar arrangements to ensure persons with disabilities across the country can access quality wheelchairs. If you want to have more information about the guidelines please refer the website http://www.who.int/disabilities/technology/en/

With best wishes - Chapal

From: izhars...@googlegroups.com [mailto:izhars...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raza Abidi

Sent: 03 June 2009 13:41

To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

I can contribute some money. Just let me know. The best option, I think, is to purchase wheelchairs produced in Pakistan . Their maintenance would be easy. Please do not get involved in the complicated custom duties and clearance obstacles. The officials will make your life miserable. They do not know what human suffering is. Raza Ali Abidi

From: miana...@hotmail.com To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:27:20 +0000

Hope this email find best health of you, my Name is Asim Zafar. I am working with different organizations as a consultant. I am also working for the betterment of PWDS in Pakistan since I got disability. I am using the wheelchair; I also got study from Japan and APCD Asia Pacific Center on Disability,

We are also producing the wheelchairs in Lahore special design by Japan , its very smart and light weight wheelchairs with cushion for especially Spinal Cord people and other disabilities.

The available wheelchair in the market is made by china, cost of one china wheelchair is Pakistani Rs: 7000 to 8000 with out warranty, which is very huge and heavy weight wheelchair, it’s very difficult to carry those wheelchairs for the disabled persons,

I am totally agreed with Ms. Anbreen it would be quiet expensive to bring them here in Pakistan .

I can suggest and  help for the assembling of the wheelchairs with 1 year warranty; I hope it would be quiet cheep for you,

Best Regards, Mian Asim Zafar  Project Manager/Consultant  PAYAAM FOUNDATION

From: anb...@bedari.org.pk To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:41:51 +0500 Hi there,

I don’t know what IRADAH would respond to this offer of receiving the wheel chairs from abroad. I think it would be quiet expensive to bring them here in Pakistan . However I can suggest two options,

1.       In case of smaller number of the wheelchairs, they can be sold there and money can be transferred to IRADAH

2.       In case of bigger number of chairs we can contribute or collect money for their transportation (I don’t know how much would it cost)

I think Mr. Zaman can let us know and can lead the process in coordination with those living in UK and are willing to contribute.

Regards Anbreen Pakistan

From: izhars...@googlegroups.com [mailto:izhars...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of KASHIF RIAZ Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:28 AM To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

Dear Zaman,   Nice to know that you guys are having used wheelchairs.

Do you have any plan/strategy in mind about sending them to Pakistan ? I am also based in UK and do let me know if i can be of any help.

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[Asim Zafar]

Dear Mr. Kashif
 

Thanks so much to all of you for you kindness and concern towards disability movement in Pakistan

 

The cost of one smart wheelchair with cushion (fit to body) is Rs: 8500/-. Wheelchair is also available in all sizes.  In Pakistan no one is assembling specially design wheelchair for PWDs, The wheelchairs available in market is so heavy and large, which is very difficult to carry for disabled persons. 

 

If you will bay 100 or 200 wheelchairs the cost of wheelchair will  b decrees, I also give the one year warranty of parts   

 

Best Regard,

 

 

Mian Asim Zafar 
Project Manager/Consultant 

PAYAAM FOUNDATION

 

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Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 03:00:13 -0700
From: kashif...@yahoo.com

Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com

[Noorudin.S.Bhamani]

Thank you Mr Imran Nazir for suggesting to contact bait-ul-maal for wheelchairs. This is the best option available to we Pakistani PWDs... because bait-ul-maal is a Pakistani institutions and Pakistan is a democratic country which means for the people, of the people, and by the poeple... there is no mention on any bait-ul-maal form that the application for wheelchairs should be submitted through a certain organization... it is an open for all scenario... A PWD is entitled to acclaim a wheel chair from bait-ul-maal for mobility without any clause or conditions...   Sir, You might have spoken to Mr Shafiq-ur-Rehman of milestone regarding the wheelchairs scheme... your suggestions that application forms for wheel chairs from bait-ul-maal should be submitted through milestone... this is undue publicity...has Mr Shaifq-ur-Rehman of milestone  given you his words that he will help PWDs of Pakistan to acquire wheelchairs from PBM... Better get it in written from Mr Shafiq-ur-Rehman of his consent to help the PWDs on this open forum Fiifty PWDs from Karachi who were promised wheelchairs  by Mr Shafiq-ur-Rehman of Milestone by Bait-ul-maal never came. But, 250 wheelchairs were distributed in the interior Sindh by bait-ul-maal through milestone by an organization .   Deprived of their hopefulness of mobility and backing out from his words by Mr Shafiq-ur-rehman of milestone (a man is apraised through his words and a woman is apriased through her beauty)   Has really disappointed the 50 PWDs  and many 1000s other PWDs from Karachi who were ready to submit their forms to PBM through milestone.   Breaking the heart of a PWD is a crime, people accept it or dont but yes sir this is a crime...   Just imagine 50 PWDs awaiting their assisstive equipments by which they would become mobile are laden with a gloomy truth that words given to them were just to gain publicity rather than giving them mobility.   Mr. Shafiq-ur-Rehman himself a PWD should have felt what stage the 50 PWDs of Karachi might be going through after been deprived of the promised wheelchair.   The person and the instituton not even had the courtesy to pick up the phone and reply to PWDs about the whereabouts of the promised wheelchairs.   Good work Mr Imran Nazir,keep on guiding our pure andinnocent PWDs  Cheers! NSB   --- Noorudin.S.Bhamani (Disabilities Rights Activist) President World Association of Person with disabilities (Pakistan Chapter) President Awareness Voluntary Organization 134, Amynabad,Off Martin Road P.I.B. Colony, Karachi-74800. Tel:021-4946598, 021-4946615, Cell: 0300-2395615, 0333-3043238 Fax:021-4132885 --- On Thu, 4/6/09, imran nazir <hamay...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: imran nazir <hamay...@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com, izhars...@googlegroups.com

Date: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 11:50 AM

Dear Group Members   Greetings from LCDDP   I suggest Rehmat and her team to get the wheel chairs from Pakistan Bait-ul-Mall (PBM) through Milestones. I spoke to Mr. Shafique of Milestones at Islamabad last week. PBM has changed its application form and I can send the scanned copy of the same if needed. Fill in the form and get is signed from concerned officers from Chakwal and then submit it through Milestones. PBM is giving wheelchairs in hundreds. Recently they have distributed hundreds of chairs in Multan city   Nice day Imran Nazir Programme Manager Pakistan Leonard Cheshire Disability and Development Programme Islamabad Pakistan      Imran Nazir    "Absolutely no one can underestimate the power of the mind and its role in success! It is imperative to keep our minds on the right track if we are to achieve balanced success in our careers, finances, health, emotions, relationships and spiritual lives." --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Khasnabis, Chapal <khasn...@who.int> wrote:

From: Khasnabis, Chapal <khasn...@who.int> Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com, izhars...@googlegroups.com

Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 7:30 AM Dear all,

Thank you to all for your excellent response. I understand the need and also the need for such an appeal but problem is much bigger than many of you envisaging. It needs larger action and support.

I work for World Health Organization in Geneva and quite involved with assistive devices programme especially on wheelchair provision.  The need of wheelchair is on increase especially due to conflict, road traffic injuries, population growth and ageing. It is estimated that there is about 1% of any population need wheelchair. Considering this Pakistan needs more than a million wheelchairs. Majority of the wheelchair users are poor so most of these wheelchairs need to be subsidized. Wheelchair is not a sheep, goat, cow or a sewing machine - one cannot just distribute the wheelchair though it is a common practice in the developing world. Dimension, health condition, need and living environment of each person is different. Wheelchairs never get distributed in the west - each wheelchair comes with a prescription and dimension, wheelchair user as well as rehabilitation personnel play a big role in deciding or choosing a wheelchair. Wheelchair needs to satisfy the person's need - it should not be in other way.

According to Convention on the Rights of the Persons with Disabilities, Article 20 on Personal mobility:

States Parties shall take effective measures to ensure personal mobility with the greatest possible independence for persons with disabilities, including by:

a) Facilitating the personal mobility of persons with disabilities in the manner and at the time of their choice, and at affordable cost;

b) Facilitating access by persons with disabilities to quality mobility aids, devices, assistive technologies and forms of live assistance and intermediaries, including by making them available at affordable cost;

c) Providing training in mobility skills to persons with disabilities and to specialist staff working with persons with disabilities;

d) Encouraging entities that produce mobility aids, devices and assistive technologies to take into account all aspects of mobility for persons with disabilities.

All the steps you all are suggesting show your good intention but it will fail to meet the demand. State, NGOs and INGOs need to work together to address this issue - please convene a National Workshop, if required. WHO Guidelines on wheelchair provision could be one of the key background documents for the national workshop to develop a sustainable strategy for Pakistan .  Like most of the countries especially where population is more than 100 million, one need a large scale production facilities or some similar arrangements to ensure persons with disabilities across the country can access quality wheelchairs. If you want to have more information about the guidelines please refer the website http://www.who.int/disabilities/technology/en/

With best wishes - Chapal

From: izhars...@googlegroups.com [mailto:izhars...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raza Abidi

Sent: 03 June 2009 13:41

To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

I can contribute some money. Just let me know. The best option, I think, is to purchase wheelchairs produced in Pakistan . Their maintenance would be easy. Please do not get involved in the complicated custom duties and clearance obstacles. The officials will make your life miserable. They do not know what human suffering is. Raza Ali Abidi

From: miana...@hotmail.com To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:27:20 +0000

Hope this email find best health of you, my Name is Asim Zafar. I am working with different organizations as a consultant. I am also working for the betterment of PWDS in Pakistan since I got disability. I am using the wheelchair; I also got study from Japan and APCD Asia Pacific Center on Disability,

We are also producing the wheelchairs in Lahore special design by Japan , its very smart and light weight wheelchairs with cushion for especially Spinal Cord people and other disabilities.

The available wheelchair in the market is made by china, cost of one china wheelchair is Pakistani Rs: 7000 to 8000 with out warranty, which is very huge and heavy weight wheelchair, it’s very difficult to carry those wheelchairs for the disabled persons,

I am totally agreed with Ms. Anbreen it would be quiet expensive to bring them here in Pakistan .

I can suggest and  help for the assembling of the wheelchairs with 1 year warranty; I hope it would be quiet cheep for you,

Best Regards, Mian Asim Zafar  Project Manager/Consultant  PAYAAM FOUNDATION

From: anb...@bedari.org.pk To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:41:51 +0500 Hi there,

I don’t know what IRADAH would respond to this offer of receiving the wheel chairs from abroad. I think it would be quiet expensive to bring them here in Pakistan . However I can suggest two options,

1.       In case of smaller number of the wheelchairs, they can be sold there and money can be transferred to IRADAH

2.       In case of bigger number of chairs we can contribute or collect money for their transportation (I don’t know how much would it cost)

I think Mr. Zaman can let us know and can lead the process in coordination with those living in UK and are willing to contribute.

Regards Anbreen Pakistan

From: izhars...@googlegroups.com [mailto:izhars...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of KASHIF RIAZ Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:28 AM To: izhars-ir...@googlegroups.com; izhars...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Appeal for Wheelchairs and Tricycles

Dear Zaman,   Nice to know that you guys are having used wheelchairs.

Do you have any plan/strategy in mind about sending them to Pakistan ? I am also based in UK and do let me know if i can be of any help.

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[Khalid Abbas]

Salam All,
I am observing/reading all the mails that have been sent on this mailing list regarding appeal for the wheel chairs and am sorry to say that we are over complicating the matter.
It was an appeal for chairs with amount of money specified for every thing that they need.
It is time for action, not long debates and discussions. Give them the money if you can and IRADAH knows the best places to buy them from.
Regarding NGOs, and other organizations who are posting on this forum, kindly go there and help them rather than asking them to go through the red tape of buracracy or blaming each other etc etc. It is better to help them on their door step. Make life easy for the poor people, rather than making it difficult.
Me and my friends have collected substantial amount of money and will be sending it to them soon Inshallah.
No offense to anybody.
rgds
Khalid

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