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cubanresourceful

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Oct 12, 2008, 11:19:15 AM10/12/08
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I saw this has a song replacer. Though, I am confounded at what its
role is? What I am simply trying to do is replace one AAC file with
another of a higher bitrate, (re-ripping CDs), but I'm not to certain
this does that. If not, is there a way it can be done? (Through your
software or someone elses?) I just want to retain plays, rating, and
last time played. I tried it by manually editing the XML file, and
other ways, but it just doesn't seem to work. :'(

Mike Delpach

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Oct 18, 2008, 7:08:30 AM10/18/08
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Hi cubanresourceful,

 

You heard it correct - iTSfv has a song replacer function. It is a very simple implementation. If you are using iTunes to rip CDs, then iTunes will take care of replacing songs for you. However if you have obtained higher bitrate files by other means, then iTSfv has a Track Replacer Assistant which can do the following:

 

Method 1:

 

Suppose you have an album with 128 Kibit/s in iTunes

You obtain the same album with 192 Kibit/s and the file names are different so you cannot simply replace the old files

You can drag files into appropriate list boxes here:

 

 

So you can allow iTSfv to match the new files names to old files names

Make sure you have the new files in a different folder

 

Now you can replace the old files in Windows Explorer and iTunes will automatically update its database using new files

 

Method 2:

 

You can backup the tags of the files you are going to replace in iTunes; you can do this in iTSfv using the Tags tab:

 

 

Once you backup the tags you delete the tracks from  iTunes

Remove the old files from Windows Explorer

Add the new files

Import the new files to iTunes – directly or via iTSfv by dragging them

 

Restore the tags

 

 

 

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Subject: Regarding Song Replacer

cubanresourceful

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Oct 31, 2008, 4:26:09 PM10/31/08
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Thank you, that is very useful, seeing how I'm replacing my 128kbps-
CBR AAC tracks, with 160 kbps VBR AAC tracks. I found another way
also, though without using your very useful little program, but I'll
post it anyways, just in case for people who did not know. (I just
stumbled upon this accidentally.)

If you have newer tracks with the same extension, but different
filenames, do this. Delete the older tracks from Windows Explorer. (DO
NOT DELETE FROM ITUNES!) Then, import the new tracks into iTunes,
making sure iTunes automatically renames then. (I think you need to
have iTunes organize music folder ON.) Then, when its all imported,
delete the new entries in iTunes, and it will be able to play with the
older entries. :D

Note: Notice, this only works with same extension, and with organize
music library on. If you do not have it on, just do it manually, like
so:

Delete old track.
Rename new track to same name as old track.
Put in same folder as old track.
Play.

But of course, then you can just use this program and have it do it
for you, right? :D

Just sharing information and love. Happy Halloween! :D

On Oct 18, 7:08 am, "Mike Delpach" <mco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi cubanresourceful,
>
> You heard it correct - iTSfv has a song replacer function. It is a very
> simple implementation. If you are using iTunes to rip CDs, then iTunes will
> take care of replacing songs for you. However if you have obtained higher
> bitrate files by other means, then iTSfv has a Track Replacer Assistant
> which can do the following:
>
> Method 1:
>
> Suppose you have an album with 128 Kibit/s in iTunes
>
> You obtain the same album with 192 Kibit/s and the file names are different
> so you cannot simply replace the old files
>
> You can drag files into appropriate list boxes here:
>
> So you can allow iTSfv to match the new files names to old files names
>
> Make sure you have the new files in a different folder
>
> Now you can replace the old files in Windows Explorer and iTunes will
> automatically update its database using new files
>
> Method 2:
>
> You can backup the tags of the files you are going to replace in iTunes; you
> can do this in iTSfv using the Tags tab:
>
> Once you backup the tags you delete the tracks from  iTunes
>
> Remove the old files from Windows Explorer
>
> Add the new files
>
> Import the new files to iTunes - directly or via iTSfv by dragging them
>
> Restore the tags
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: it...@googlegroups.com [mailto:it...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
>
> cubanresourceful
>
> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 23:19
>
> To: iTSfv
>
> Subject: Regarding Song Replacer
>
> I saw this has a song replacer. Though, I am confounded at what its role is?
> What I am simply trying to do is replace one AAC file with another of a
> higher bitrate, (re-ripping CDs), but I'm not to certain this does that. If
> not, is there a way it can be done? (Through your software or someone
> elses?) I just want to retain plays, rating, and last time played. I tried
> it by manually editing the XML file, and other ways, but it just doesn't
> seem to work. :'(
>
>
>
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ptha

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Nov 18, 2008, 2:22:39 PM11/18/08
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I have successfully used your instructions here for Method 2.
But I'm wondering specifically what tags the "Restore Tags" function
in iTSfv restores.
For example will it restore any of the sorting tags - "Sort Artist"
for example, or any Lyrics you have added?
Looking at the backed up xml file, it seems these tags are not present
- would it be possible to add this functionality to iTSfv?
Thanks,
Peter.

On Oct 18, 11:08 am, "Mike Delpach" <mco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi cubanresourceful,
>
> You heard it correct - iTSfv has a song replacer function. It is a very
> simple implementation. If you are using iTunes to rip CDs, then iTunes will
> take care of replacing songs for you. However if you have obtained higher
> bitrate files by other means, then iTSfv has a Track Replacer Assistant
> which can do the following:
>
> Method 1:
>
> Suppose you have an album with 128 Kibit/s in iTunes
>
> You obtain the same album with 192 Kibit/s and the file names are different
> so you cannot simply replace the old files
>
> You can drag files into appropriate list boxes here:
>
> So you can allow iTSfv to match the new files names to old files names
>
> Make sure you have the new files in a different folder
>
> Now you can replace the old files in Windows Explorer and iTunes will
> automatically update its database using new files
>
> Method 2:
>
> You can backup the tags of the files you are going to replace in iTunes; you
> can do this in iTSfv using the Tags tab:
>
> Once you backup the tags you delete the tracks from  iTunes
>
> Remove the old files from Windows Explorer
>
> Add the new files
>
> Import the new files to iTunes - directly or via iTSfv by dragging them
>
> Restore the tags
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: it...@googlegroups.com [mailto:it...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
>
> cubanresourceful
>
> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 23:19
>
> To: iTSfv
>
> Subject: Regarding Song Replacer
>
> I saw this has a song replacer. Though, I am confounded at what its role is?
> What I am simply trying to do is replace one AAC file with another of a
> higher bitrate, (re-ripping CDs), but I'm not to certain this does that. If
> not, is there a way it can be done? (Through your software or someone
> elses?) I just want to retain plays, rating, and last time played. I tried
> it by manually editing the XML file, and other ways, but it just doesn't
> seem to work. :'(
>
>
>
>  image001.png
> 44KViewDownload
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>  image002.png
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Mike Delpach

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Nov 18, 2008, 6:07:33 PM11/18/08
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Hi Peter,

iTSfv Backup/Restore tags is designed to backup/restore any tag that iTunes
does not save in either of the actual audio file or in the iTunes
Library.xml. You can check what these tags are, if you press F2 while you
are in the Tags tab.

Lyrics are definitely saved in the actual file. I am not sure about the
"Sort Artist". I will double check on this.

Nice to see you here in Google Groups.

ptha

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Nov 19, 2008, 7:01:01 AM11/19/08
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I did some checking myself and it seems the Sorting tags are stored in
the library.xml
It seems from the settings iTSfv Backup/Restore you can restore:
Played Count
Played Date
Start/Finish Time
Skipped Count
Skipped Date
Rating
Equalizer
Enabled
Bookmark Time
Exclude From Shuffle

Is there any reason you restrict the restore to only these tags?
Basically, because I'm reripping my CDs to mp3 using EAC & LAME (the
iTunes mp3 encoder is known to be poor) - I lose a lot of information
in the original m4a files tags. When iTunes downloads information for
a particular CD, it can have a different year for each track (in
compilations for example) EAC only allows one year for the entire
album. Also EAC doesn't support tags like Composer or Comment for each
track. Not to mention any Sorting tags or Lyrics I've added myself.
Do you know how I could recover these tags without having to manually
type them all in again?
If iTSfv doesn't currently support restoring these tags, I do think
adding the functionality would be very useful.
Thanks again for everything,
Peter.
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Mike Delpach

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Nov 19, 2008, 9:44:58 AM11/19/08
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Peter,

 

The reason was to avoid duplication of tags stored in several places.

 

Most of the primary tags are saved in the mp3/m4a files itself.

Tags which were not saved in the files were saved in iTunes Library.xml

Tags that were not saved in either of the above were saved using iTSfv.

 

So this way virtually all tags were stored inside a file permanently.  

 

Btw http://jiggafellz.isa-geek.net/jiggafellz-step-by-step-guide-to-secure-cd-ripping-with-exact-audio-copy/ is the ultimate guide for ripping MP3 using EAC. I am guessing you are using that already. :)

 

The Mp3tag's Tag Copy/Paste function is the best for retrieving tags from AAC to MP3. I have tried this to get tags from FLAC to MP3.

 

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: it...@googlegroups.com [mailto:it...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ptha
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 21:01
To: iTSfv
Subject: Re: Regarding Song Replacer

 

 

I did some checking myself and it seems the Sorting tags are stored in

image001.png

Mike Delpach

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Nov 19, 2008, 9:50:51 AM11/19/08
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I just checked with Mp3tag, it supports copying COMPOSER, UNSYNCED_LYRICS
and also ARTWORK tag.

ptha

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Nov 21, 2008, 9:58:49 AM11/21/08
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Thanks for all the excellent info. I'm using mp3tag's copy and paste
tags to copy the tags from m4a to mp3, I then backup the ratings etc.
using iTSfv, delete the old files from iTunes, import the new ones,
restore the ratings using iTSfv, and also the lyrics, as there's some
problem with mp3tag's copying of the lyrics - extra line breaks seem
to be added. It's a bit time consuming but it works.

Thanks for the EAC info also - some extra stuff there I didn't know
about.
P
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