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[poojitha]

You may like to join this interesting debate about open source

http://www.timeseye.net/2008/01/why-open-source-sucks.html

[Dhammike Mendis]

see this

http://gravitypost.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/does-open-source-suck/

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I think, the points you have specified are not factual. like to know a
few things from you. since you've given full credit to m$ products ;)

- Are you using licensed m$ products ?
- What's your industry experience ?
- How many applications have you developed and their scope as well as
your contribution towards those applications ?

[poojitha]

- Are you using licensed m$ products ? No idon't use licenced once,
its illegal, i know, but its better to use them than OS
products, i have no option

- What's your industry experience ? Thats the problem, only guys with
industry experience are at easy using most OS products. 99.99% doesn't
have that

- How many applications have you developed and their scope as well as
your contribution towards those applications ?

i have developed some content mangment systems.......lets say about
3........ recenntly we tried to customize an open source chat (JW
Chat,Jeti, Spark)product for a UK company and failed becuase lack of
documentaion.......... :-)


But i'm not saying all OS products are crap, for an example PHP ,My
SQL rocks...... but OS fails when it comes to big products............

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On Oct 26, 3:12 pm, poojitha <indrakeer...@gmail.com> wrote:
> - Are you using licensed m$ products ? No idon't use licenced once,
> its illegal, i know, but its better to use them than OS
> products, i have no option

Ok, first you need to use a licensed copy to remain in this
conversation. According to the law, you're a theif, and you could be
prosecuted. You can't break the law just because you don't have any
other option, this is hillarious :D

>
> - What's your industry experience ? Thats the problem, only guys with
> industry experience are at easy using most OS products. 99.99% doesn't
> have that
>

Dude, I asked you a simple question, "what's your industry
experience"... and you're talking crap. It's like, "Yanne koheda malle
pol". Pathetic. You haven't answer this question.. ;)

[This is the reason, why I didn't publish your comments! You're not
talking up to the point, but talking crap, trying to hijack the
topic.]

> - How many applications have you developed and their scope as well as
> your contribution towards those applications ?
>
> i have developed some content mangment systems.......lets say about
> 3........ recenntly we tried to customize an open source chat (JW
> Chat,Jeti, Spark)product for a UK company and failed becuase lack of
> documentaion.......... :-)

Oh... these applications don't have much .. just CRUD operations.. if
the documentation isn't there, you can dig down the source code and
understand the flow. else you can get forum support... in any
application development, you need to do your home work and put some
effort.. this is not rocket science.. it's nothing but you being
lazy :D

>
> But i'm not saying all OS products are crap, for an example PHP ,My
> SQL rocks...... but OS fails when it comes to big products............

FYI : PHP sucks big time, specially XML parsing is scary.. so many
leaks in the code. which we'd reported to them sometime back. I
believe they have fixed these problems by now. Python is a better
option .. indeed.. python is really cool compared to PHP, which is
good for newbies. but again, php is being used widely .. ie
facebook... as i said.. it's perspective.. you need to define these
things based on your requirements.



>>My SQL rocks but OS fails when it comes to big products............

You're wrong.. MySQL is in use as the backend for large
applications.. google, yahoo and weather.com are just a few examples.
weather.com stores gigs and gigs of data.. ie.. generally a settalite
image contains around over 40,000 records.. MySQL is way way better
compared to m$ sql server.

However, if you're using XA, mysql isn't the best for it doesn't
provide a serializable XA resource for Tx recovery AFAIK. again, when
you have long XA operations, we have noted that MySQL is causing some
issues.

However, they will be replacing the Innodb engine soon, the ex
firebird (http://www.firebirdsql.org/) guy is working on this. in
summary, MySQL is great to do any enterprise level suff as long as you
don't use XA. Again in depths, m$ sql server is not a good product
when it comes to XA. you can see m$ sql server is chocking when you
enlist an XA resource in a global Tx.

Postgresql is the best, you can replace Oracle with Postgresql with
any issues.. indeed Postgresql is the oracle killer. I've been using
Postgresql for years....didn't face a single issue. If you're using
Posgresql, you need to write your own Tx recovery module for it
doesn't provide a serializable interface for Tx recovery, specially
when you're using this with JBoss/Java app servers.

finally, if you don't know, please ask without creating bullshit
arguments.. with gossips.. be factual.. we'd like to help you.. but
you need to ask.. without being so infantile .. ;)

cheers
TW

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Correction :

Postgresql is the best, you can replace Oracle with Postgresql WTHOUT
any issues..

[poojitha]

microsoft is going to release windows 7 with multitouch
technology.........next year............
can any OS product fight with that? see $ product are way beyond the
reach of open source stuff........
plus they are really user friendly..... thats why they
dominate........

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7696648.stm

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poojitha wrote:

> microsoft is going to release windows 7 with multitouch
> technology.........next year............

oh .. you mean to say that the concept which m$ learned from
Apple.. ... again this shows your stupidity/lack of awareness on
things.

the multitouch is a magic for you guys but this is something
available .. for sometime .. but at the experiment stage .. i have no
idea when this will be made available in the upstream...but this will
happen _soon_

again.. this shows you're a real moron.. dude.. these are cosmetic
features.. how many people have touch screens and how many of them are
in a position to use this ?

we're more concerned about improved functionality of an operating
system not these fancy things (though we already have them) though the
morons like you are concerned on these things..

for an example.. i'm more concerned about encripting my hard disk
drive than the feature you've stated. for an instance, i don't want
people to access my data/company confidential documents if my laptop/
hard drives are stolen/lost. In Linux, you can encript your disk
drives, so that none can access the information you have in them..
we've been using this feature for years..

i can give you N number of examples .. but i think it's time for you
to spend some time to improve your awareness on IT/Software before
bringing such silly arguments.. proving that you lack in these
areas..

btw, the touch screen support on embedded devices in regard to Linux
has a long history.. if you fly on Delta, American , or Qantas .. you
can see their personal video entertainment units are powered by
Linux..

time to grow up dude ..

> can any OS product fight with that? see $ product are way beyond the
> reach of open source stuff........
> plus they are really user friendly..... thats why they
> dominate........
>

i don't agree with what you say windoez is a uder friendly OS.. it
didn't have a GUI driven installer until very recent .. has just one
GUI.. where as in Linux, you've got a couple of them . KDE, Gnome,
XFCE, Enlightement etc..

m$ dominate because of the marketing mudget they have.. the marketing
and media guys are quite smart enough making bunch of fools into
morons.. so they can sell their software ..


> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7696648.stm