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Francesco Potorti`

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Jan 18, 2006, 6:02:06 AM1/18/06
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Enrico, quindi questa secondo te č una Planorbella duryi?
<http://pot.potorti.it/acquari/molluschi/Planorbella%20duryi.jpg>

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Jan 18, 2006, 7:07:29 AM1/18/06
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Francesco Potorti` ha scritto:

> Enrico, quindi questa secondo te č una Planorbella duryi?

Per me si. Fra l'altro a me ne nascono sia con il guscio rosso maculato
come la tua che giallo ambra.

Ciao Enrico


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Corrado

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Jan 19, 2006, 4:46:03 PM1/19/06
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"Francesco Potorti`" <p...@potorti.it> ha scritto nel messaggio
> Enrico, quindi questa secondo te è una Planorbella duryi?
> <http://pot.potorti.it/acquari/molluschi/Planorbella%20duryi.jpg>

con l'intenzione di farti capire meglio, ti riporto un pezzo di un libro in
inglese, di un mio amico, l'amico non è inglese, ed anche il libro pur
essendo scritto in inglese è scritto da uno studioso non inglese:

Planorbella duryi (Wetherbey, 1879) / anceps (Menke, 1830) - 5, 6, 9, 11,
15.

These North-American snails were called Helisoma trivolvis (Say, 1818) in
former Czech

literature. This species is the most common snail of aquariums through the
whole territory.

Unfortunately, we are not able to identify the material to the species
level, but the

occurrence of both mentioned species is very probable. Obviously, there are
some

inconsistencies in the recent malacological literature. Glöer, P (2002)
assesses P. duryi as

a rare species and does not mention its occurrence in aquariums. On the
contrary, he

regards P. anceps as a common snail of European aquariums and expects its
penetration

to the wild nature. On the other hand, Leiss, A. & Reischütz, P.L. (1996)
published many

findings of P. duryi from aquariums. That material was identified according
to Burch, J.B.

& Tottenham, J.L. (1980) (Reischütz, pers. comm.). When we perform
identification

according to Glöer, P (2002) and Burch, J.B. & Tottenham, J.L. (1980) we can
obtain

different results. A juvenile of P. anceps, figured by Glöer, P (2002), is
conchologicaly

very close to P. duryi f. seminole after Burch, J.B. & Tottenham, J.L.
(1980). Therefore,

we conclude that more correct will be to label our material as P. duryi with
respect to

encountering some population of P. duryi f. seminole [sensu Burch, J.B. &
Tottenham, J.L.

(1980)]. The species was also introduced to Africa. In general,
identification of non-native

species will be connected with some problems either due to their occurrence
in different

conditions or because their population are fragmented. Further investigation
on European

Planorbella population is badly needed.

ciao

Francesco Potorti`

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Jan 20, 2006, 8:09:38 AM1/20/06
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"Corrado" <chiest.t...@tiscali.it>:

>Further investigation on European Planorbella population is badly
>needed.

Grazie dell'interessante citazione.

Però dovrebbe essere possibile distinguere almeno fra Planorbella e
Planorbarius, o anche qui siamo sulle sabbie?

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