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Giovanni
May 31, 2012, 9:12:14 AM5/31/12
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Chi ha visto Zohan sa di cosa parlo.
In sintesi un bianco upperclass chiama "Mustafa" uno che parla con
pesante accento mediorientale.
Lui gli risponde "Why do you call me Mustafa?"
E quindi il primo dice "Whatever. Salami, bologna, applesauce"
Io l'ho interpretata come "sì vabbè non cambia niente magari non sei
arabo però sempre di quei pizzi sei...magari se turco, o italiano, o
israeliano...non cambia niente".
però volevo sapere se c'è un'interpretazione per ciò che dice. In realtà
sta elencando cibi italiani (anche se non so nulla del succo di
mela...)...forse l'italiano era il prototipo di uomo mediterraneo
immigrato in america?
--
>Giovanni
In sintesi un bianco upperclass chiama "Mustafa" uno che parla con
pesante accento mediorientale.
Lui gli risponde "Why do you call me Mustafa?"
E quindi il primo dice "Whatever. Salami, bologna, applesauce"
Io l'ho interpretata come "sì vabbè non cambia niente magari non sei
arabo però sempre di quei pizzi sei...magari se turco, o italiano, o
israeliano...non cambia niente".
però volevo sapere se c'è un'interpretazione per ciò che dice. In realtà
sta elencando cibi italiani (anche se non so nulla del succo di
mela...)...forse l'italiano era il prototipo di uomo mediterraneo
immigrato in america?
--
>Giovanni
Giovanni
Jun 2, 2012, 6:18:27 PM6/2/12
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Anyone? Anyone?
(cit.)
--
>Giovanni
(cit.)
--
>Giovanni
Joe from NY
Jun 2, 2012, 9:39:37 PM6/2/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 09:12:14 -0400, Giovanni wrote
(in article <jq7qni$1oe$1...@dont-email.me>):
Haven't seen the movie, but from here it looks like gibberish.
A play on words (salami = salaam) leads to another deli meat, which is
probably "baloney" (not bologna) meaning foolish talk, nonsense; and ending
with "applesauce," another term for nonsense.
The whole exchange might have been brought on by a misunderstanding of
"mustafa", having been mistaken for some foodstuff or other.
--
Joey from New York
Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator,
but among those whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
-- WH Auden
(in article <jq7qni$1oe$1...@dont-email.me>):
A play on words (salami = salaam) leads to another deli meat, which is
probably "baloney" (not bologna) meaning foolish talk, nonsense; and ending
with "applesauce," another term for nonsense.
The whole exchange might have been brought on by a misunderstanding of
"mustafa", having been mistaken for some foodstuff or other.
--
Joey from New York
Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator,
but among those whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
-- WH Auden
Adam Atkinson
Jun 3, 2012, 12:39:43 PM6/3/12
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On Jun 3, 2:39 am, Joe from NY <g...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> A play on words (salami = salaam) leads to another deli meat, which is
> probably "baloney" (not bologna) meaning foolish talk, nonsense; and ending
> with "applesauce," another term for nonsense.
"applesauce" is a term for nonsense? I have never knowingly heard that.
> A play on words (salami = salaam) leads to another deli meat, which is
> probably "baloney" (not bologna) meaning foolish talk, nonsense; and ending
> with "applesauce," another term for nonsense.
Joe from NY
Jun 3, 2012, 2:23:19 PM6/3/12
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On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:39:43 -0400, Adam Atkinson wrote
(in article
<6b3999d7-f580-448b...@s9g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>):
It's probably an Americanism. Not very common and maybe dated, but as I'm
old, I was familiar with it. From the OAD:
applesauce
noun
1 a purée of stewed apples, typically sweetened.
2 informal: nonsense. Equal Opportunity for All Elmer says that's all
applesauce.
(in article
<6b3999d7-f580-448b...@s9g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>):
old, I was familiar with it. From the OAD:
applesauce
noun
1 a purée of stewed apples, typically sweetened.
2 informal: nonsense. Equal Opportunity for All Elmer says that's all
applesauce.
Giovanni
Jun 4, 2012, 11:59:29 AM6/4/12
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Il 03/06/2012 3.39, Joe from NY ha scritto:
> Haven't seen the movie, but from here it looks like gibberish.
> A play on words (salami = salaam) leads to another deli meat, which is
> probably "baloney" (not bologna) meaning foolish talk, nonsense; and ending
> with "applesauce," another term for nonsense.
it's reported as Salame Bologna Applesauce, in the Internet
> Haven't seen the movie, but from here it looks like gibberish.
> A play on words (salami = salaam) leads to another deli meat, which is
> probably "baloney" (not bologna) meaning foolish talk, nonsense; and ending
> with "applesauce," another term for nonsense.
The movie is about an Israeli soldier who comes to the US. It's a
hilarious movie.
> The whole exchange might have been brought on by a misunderstanding of
> "mustafa", having been mistaken for some foodstuff or other.
--
>Giovanni
Giovanni
Jun 4, 2012, 12:00:17 PM6/4/12
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Il 03/06/2012 20.23, Joe from NY ha scritto:
> applesauce
> noun
> 1 a purï¿œe of stewed apples, typically sweetened.
> 2 informal: nonsense. Equal Opportunity for Allï¿œElmer says that's all
> applesauce.
what is AllElmer?
--
>Giovanni
> applesauce
> noun
> 1 a purï¿œe of stewed apples, typically sweetened.
> 2 informal: nonsense. Equal Opportunity for Allï¿œElmer says that's all
> applesauce.
what is AllElmer?
--
>Giovanni
The Squash Delivery Boy
Jun 4, 2012, 12:43:07 PM6/4/12
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Il 6/4/12 6:00 PM, Giovanni ha scritto:
>> 2 informal: nonsense. Equal Opportunity for All Elmer says that's all
>> applesauce.
>
> what is AllElmer?
sob
>> 2 informal: nonsense. Equal Opportunity for All Elmer says that's all
>> applesauce.
>
> what is AllElmer?
sob
Giovanni
Jun 4, 2012, 1:40:56 PM6/4/12
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Il 04/06/2012 18.43, The Squash Delivery Boy ha scritto:
>>> 2 informal: nonsense. Equal Opportunity for All Elmer says that's all
>>> applesauce.
>> what is AllElmer?
> sob
vabbè avrei potuto cercarlo ma sul momento mi sono messo a
>>> 2 informal: nonsense. Equal Opportunity for All Elmer says that's all
>>> applesauce.
>> what is AllElmer?
> sob
chiedere...pure tu non facevi prima a rispondere? dopotutto non capita
tutti i giorni che uno abbia la possibilità di dare sfoggio della
propria cultura :-))))))
--
>Giovanni
The Squash Delivery Boy
Jun 4, 2012, 1:59:29 PM6/4/12
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Il 6/4/12 7:40 PM, Giovanni ha scritto:
>>>> 2 informal: nonsense. Equal Opportunity for Allï¿œElmer says that's all
> propria cultura :-))))))
sob sob :-((((
>>>> 2 informal: nonsense. Equal Opportunity for Allï¿œElmer says that's all
>>>> applesauce.
>>> what is AllElmer?
>> sob
>
> vabbￜ avrei potuto cercarlo ma sul momento mi sono messo a
>>> what is AllElmer?
>> sob
>
> chiedere...pure tu non facevi prima a rispondere? dopotutto non capita
> tutti i giorni che uno abbia la possibilitￜ di dare sfoggio della
> propria cultura :-))))))
sob sob :-((((
Joe from NY
Jun 4, 2012, 2:38:59 PM6/4/12
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 12:00:17 -0400, Giovanni wrote
(in article <jqim2i$7qg$5...@dont-email.me>):
> Equal Opportunity for Allï¿œElmer says that's all
>> applesauce.
>
> what is AllElmer?
(Stop sobbing, Squash.)
" 'Equal Opportunity for All.' Elmer says that's all applesauce. "
--
Joey from New York
Among those whom I like or admire, I can findï¿œno common denominator,
but among thoseï¿œwhom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
ￜ ￜ-- WH Auden
(in article <jqim2i$7qg$5...@dont-email.me>):
> Equal Opportunity for Allï¿œElmer says that's all
>> applesauce.
>
> what is AllElmer?
" 'Equal Opportunity for All.' Elmer says that's all applesauce. "
--
Joey from New York
but among thoseï¿œwhom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
ￜ ￜ-- WH Auden
Joe from NY
Jun 4, 2012, 2:43:45 PM6/4/12
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:59:29 -0400, Giovanni wrote
(in article <jqim12$7qg$4...@dont-email.me>):
> Il 03/06/2012 3.39, Joe from NY ha scritto:
>
>> Haven't seen the movie, but from here it looks like gibberish.
>> A play on words (salami = salaam) leads to another deli meat, which is
>> probably "baloney" (not bologna) meaning foolish talk, nonsense; and ending
>> with "applesauce," another term for nonsense.
>
> it's reported as Salame Bologna Applesauce, in the Internet
> The movie is about an Israeli soldier who comes to the US. It's a
> hilarious movie.
>
>> The whole exchange might have been brought on by a misunderstanding of
>> "mustafa", having been mistaken for some foodstuff or other.
Although they're pronounced the same in the US, 'bologna' usually refers to
the deli meat. It can mean the same and be spelled the same as 'baloney',
which usually refers to foolishness.
>> The whole exchange might have been brought on by a misunderstanding of
>> "mustafa", having been mistaken for some foodstuff or other.
> I think instead that it's a generic offense towards minorities...
Yes, of course. That's the whole point. So why 'instead'?
(in article <jqim12$7qg$4...@dont-email.me>):
> Il 03/06/2012 3.39, Joe from NY ha scritto:
>
>> Haven't seen the movie, but from here it looks like gibberish.
>> A play on words (salami = salaam) leads to another deli meat, which is
>> probably "baloney" (not bologna) meaning foolish talk, nonsense; and ending
>> with "applesauce," another term for nonsense.
>
> it's reported as Salame Bologna Applesauce, in the Internet
> The movie is about an Israeli soldier who comes to the US. It's a
> hilarious movie.
>
>> The whole exchange might have been brought on by a misunderstanding of
>> "mustafa", having been mistaken for some foodstuff or other.
the deli meat. It can mean the same and be spelled the same as 'baloney',
which usually refers to foolishness.
>> The whole exchange might have been brought on by a misunderstanding of
>> "mustafa", having been mistaken for some foodstuff or other.
> I think instead that it's a generic offense towards minorities...
edevils
Jun 5, 2012, 4:32:27 AM6/5/12
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Il giorno lunedì 4 giugno 2012 20:43:45 UTC+2, Joe from NY ha scritto:
...
...
> Although they're pronounced the same in the US, 'bologna' usually refers to
> the deli meat. It can mean the same and be spelled the same as 'baloney',
> which usually refers to foolishness.
As it is a transcript from a movie, it might just be a case of mistaken transcription: "bologna" instead of "baloney".
> the deli meat. It can mean the same and be spelled the same as 'baloney',
> which usually refers to foolishness.
Joe from NY
Jun 5, 2012, 7:19:06 AM6/5/12
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 04:32:27 -0400, edevils wrote
(in article <45a2ed7f-c7f6-444a...@googlegroups.com>):
That's what I was thinking.
--
Joey from New York
(in article <45a2ed7f-c7f6-444a...@googlegroups.com>):
--
Joey from New York
Davide Davini
Jun 5, 2012, 10:47:39 AM6/5/12
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Joe from NY wrote:
>> what is AllElmer?
> (Stop sobbing, Squash.)
Exactly.
>> what is AllElmer?
> (Stop sobbing, Squash.)
> " 'Equal Opportunity for All.' Elmer says that's all applesauce. "
got me as well, at first.
--
I'll be reading you,
Capitalisation is the difference between helping
your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse
Giovanni
Jun 17, 2012, 4:26:30 PM6/17/12
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Il 04/06/2012 20.38, Joe from NY ha scritto:
>> Equal Opportunity for Allï¿œElmer says that's all
>>> applesauce.
>> what is AllElmer?
> (Stop sobbing, Squash.)
> " 'Equal Opportunity for All.' Elmer says that's all applesauce."
Who's Elmer?
>> Equal Opportunity for Allï¿œElmer says that's all
>>> applesauce.
>> what is AllElmer?
> (Stop sobbing, Squash.)
> " 'Equal Opportunity for All.' Elmer says that's all applesauce."
--
>Giovanni
Joe from NY
Jun 17, 2012, 4:38:30 PM6/17/12
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:26:30 -0400, Giovanni wrote
(in article <jrleht$oud$1...@dont-email.me>):
> Il 04/06/2012 20.38, Joe from NY ha scritto:
>
>>> Equal Opportunity for All Elmer says that's all
I.e., he's no one in particular.
--
Joey from New York
-- WH Auden
(in article <jrleht$oud$1...@dont-email.me>):
> Il 04/06/2012 20.38, Joe from NY ha scritto:
>
>>>> applesauce.
>>> what is AllElmer?
>> (Stop sobbing, Squash.)
>> " 'Equal Opportunity for All.' Elmer says that's all applesauce."
>
> Who's Elmer?
>
>
>
Elmer is Elmer. Fred is Fred. Josiah is Josiah. Mike is Mike. Ted is Ted.
>>> what is AllElmer?
>> (Stop sobbing, Squash.)
>> " 'Equal Opportunity for All.' Elmer says that's all applesauce."
>
> Who's Elmer?
>
>
>
I.e., he's no one in particular.
--
Joey from New York
Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator,
but among those whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
-- WH Auden
ADPUF
Jun 17, 2012, 5:53:18 PM6/17/12
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Joe from NY, 22:38, domenica 17 giugno 2012:
--
"I wanted to invent an engine that could run for ever. I could
have developed a new train, had I stayed in the railway. It
would have looked like the AK-47 though."
-- Mikhail Kalashnikov
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:26:30 -0400, Giovanni wrote
>> Il 04/06/2012 20.38, Joe from NY ha scritto:
>>
>>> " 'Equal Opportunity for All.' Elmer says that's all
>>> applesauce."
>>
>> Who's Elmer?
>>
> Elmer is Elmer. Fred is Fred. Josiah is Josiah. Mike is Mike.
> Ted is Ted.
>
> I.e., he's no one in particular.
Don't you say Tom, Dick or Harry anymore?
>>
>>> " 'Equal Opportunity for All.' Elmer says that's all
>>> applesauce."
>>
>> Who's Elmer?
>>
> Elmer is Elmer. Fred is Fred. Josiah is Josiah. Mike is Mike.
> Ted is Ted.
>
> I.e., he's no one in particular.
--
"I wanted to invent an engine that could run for ever. I could
have developed a new train, had I stayed in the railway. It
would have looked like the AK-47 though."
-- Mikhail Kalashnikov
The Squash Delivery Boy
Jun 17, 2012, 6:12:09 PM6/17/12
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Il 6/17/12 10:38 PM, Joe from NY ha scritto:
>> Who's Elmer?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Elmer is Elmer. Fred is Fred. Josiah is Josiah. Mike is Mike. Ted is Ted.
>
> I.e., he's no one in particular.
I think Giovanni was pulling our leg. I hope he was.
>> Who's Elmer?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Elmer is Elmer. Fred is Fred. Josiah is Josiah. Mike is Mike. Ted is Ted.
>
> I.e., he's no one in particular.
Joe from NY
Jun 17, 2012, 6:58:27 PM6/17/12
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:53:18 -0400, ADPUF wrote
(in article <4fde5189$0$1378$4faf...@reader2.news.tin.it>):
> Joe from NY, 22:38, domenica 17 giugno 2012:
>> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:26:30 -0400, Giovanni wrote
>>> Il 04/06/2012 20.38, Joe from NY ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> " 'Equal Opportunity for All.' Elmer says that's all
>>>> applesauce."
>>>
>>> Who's Elmer?
>>>
>> Elmer is Elmer. Fred is Fred. Josiah is Josiah. Mike is Mike.
>> Ted is Ted.
>>
>> I.e., he's no one in particular.
>
>
> Don't you say Tom, Dick or Harry anymore?
Sure: Elmer is any Tom, Dick or Harry.
(Not to be confused with Shadrach, Meshach or Abednego.)
(in article <4fde5189$0$1378$4faf...@reader2.news.tin.it>):
> Joe from NY, 22:38, domenica 17 giugno 2012:
>> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:26:30 -0400, Giovanni wrote
>>> Il 04/06/2012 20.38, Joe from NY ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> " 'Equal Opportunity for All.' Elmer says that's all
>>>> applesauce."
>>>
>>> Who's Elmer?
>>>
>> Elmer is Elmer. Fred is Fred. Josiah is Josiah. Mike is Mike.
>> Ted is Ted.
>>
>> I.e., he's no one in particular.
>
>
> Don't you say Tom, Dick or Harry anymore?
(Not to be confused with Shadrach, Meshach or Abednego.)
Joe from NY
Jun 17, 2012, 7:00:43 PM6/17/12
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 18:12:09 -0400, The Squash Delivery Boy wrote
(in article <jrlknp$qvv$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
Shouldn't that be "our legs"? I don't believe we possess a communal leg. :)
At any rate, I'm willing to consider *my* leg pulled. I'm just too trusting.
(in article <jrlknp$qvv$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
At any rate, I'm willing to consider *my* leg pulled. I'm just too trusting.
edevils
Jun 18, 2012, 1:07:03 PM6/18/12
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"Joe from NY" wrote
> I think Giovanni was pulling our leg. I hope he was.
>
> Shouldn't that be "our legs"? I don't believe we possess a communal leg.
> :)
Joe from NY
Jun 18, 2012, 1:33:07 PM6/18/12
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:07:03 -0400, edevils wrote
(in article <jrnn7o$j60$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
>
>
> "Joe from NY" wrote
>
>> I think Giovanni was pulling our leg. I hope he was.
>>
>
>> Shouldn't that be "our legs"? I don't believe we possess a communal leg.
>>>>
>
:P
(in article <jrnn7o$j60$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
>
>
> "Joe from NY" wrote
>
>> I think Giovanni was pulling our leg. I hope he was.
>>
>
>> Shouldn't that be "our legs"? I don't believe we possess a communal leg.
>>>>
>
> In Italian we would! :)
>
I thought of that afterward. Still, it's good to point out the difference(s).
>
:P
Giovanni
Jun 18, 2012, 1:58:47 PM6/18/12
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Il 18/06/2012 0.12, The Squash Delivery Boy ha scritto:
>> Elmer is Elmer. Fred is Fred. Josiah is Josiah. Mike is Mike. Ted is Ted.
>> I.e., he's no one in particular.
> I think Giovanni was pulling our leg. I hope he was.
No. I actually thought it was something related to Sesame street or
>> Elmer is Elmer. Fred is Fred. Josiah is Josiah. Mike is Mike. Ted is Ted.
>> I.e., he's no one in particular.
> I think Giovanni was pulling our leg. I hope he was.
something.
--
>Giovanni
edevils
Jun 19, 2012, 6:24:42 AM6/19/12
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"Joe from NY" wrote in message
news:0001HW.CC04DE93...@news.eternal-september.org...
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:07:03 -0400, edevils wrote
(in article <jrnn7o$j60$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
>
>
>> "Joe from NY" wrote
>
>>> I think Giovanni was pulling our leg. I hope he was.
>>
>
>>> Shouldn't that be "our legs"? I don't believe we possess a communal leg.
>>>>
>
>> In Italian we would! :)
>
> I thought of that afterward. Still, it's good to point out the
> difference(s).
> :P
P.s.
Sometimes in English you say, for instance, "We wear a hat so and so", but
in that particular case I guess you mean a *type*.
"Up home we wear a hat like that to shoot deer in, for Chrissake, he said.
That's a deer shooting hat."
J.D. Salinger
Joe from NY
Jun 19, 2012, 8:41:20 AM6/19/12
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:24:42 -0400, edevils wrote
(in article <jrpk1a$p2k$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
>
>
> "Joe from NY" wrote in message
> news:0001HW.CC04DE93...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:07:03 -0400, edevils wrote
> (in article <jrnn7o$j60$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
>
>>
>>
>>> "Joe from NY" wrote
>>
>>>> I think Giovanni was pulling our leg. I hope he was.
>>>
>>
>>>> Shouldn't that be "our legs"? I don't believe we possess a communal leg.
>>>>>
>>
>>> In Italian we would! :)
>>
>
>> I thought of that afterward. Still, it's good to point out the
>> difference(s).
>>> P
>
> Why "still"? That was exactly my point too. :)
"Still" because I inferred that your comment was somewhat of a correction, an
emendation of my initial comment. My response to yours meant "Yes, in Italian
you would have a communal leg but it's good to know that in English we don't
like to share legs. (Except in certain somewhat private circumstances. :)
>
> P.s.
> Sometimes in English you say, for instance, "We wear a hat so and so", but
> in that particular case I guess you mean a *type*.
I'm sorry: I don't understand the point you're making. Type of what?
>
> "Up home we wear a hat like that to shoot deer in, for Chrissake, he said.
> That's a deer shooting hat."
> J.D. Salinger
>
Do I dare correct Salinger? (Or was it you?) "deer-shooting" should be
hyphenated. What it means without the hyphen is "a deer that is shooting a
hat."
Never shot a deer. Never will. Not a lot of them in Manhattan...
(in article <jrpk1a$p2k$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
>
>
> "Joe from NY" wrote in message
> news:0001HW.CC04DE93...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:07:03 -0400, edevils wrote
> (in article <jrnn7o$j60$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
>
>>
>>
>>> "Joe from NY" wrote
>>
>>>> I think Giovanni was pulling our leg. I hope he was.
>>>
>>
>>>> Shouldn't that be "our legs"? I don't believe we possess a communal leg.
>>>>>
>>
>>> In Italian we would! :)
>>
>
>> I thought of that afterward. Still, it's good to point out the
>> difference(s).
>>> P
>
> Why "still"? That was exactly my point too. :)
emendation of my initial comment. My response to yours meant "Yes, in Italian
you would have a communal leg but it's good to know that in English we don't
like to share legs. (Except in certain somewhat private circumstances. :)
>
> P.s.
> Sometimes in English you say, for instance, "We wear a hat so and so", but
> in that particular case I guess you mean a *type*.
>
> "Up home we wear a hat like that to shoot deer in, for Chrissake, he said.
> That's a deer shooting hat."
> J.D. Salinger
>
hyphenated. What it means without the hyphen is "a deer that is shooting a
hat."
Never shot a deer. Never will. Not a lot of them in Manhattan...
G
Jun 19, 2012, 9:08:22 AM6/19/12
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Joe from NY <g...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:24:42 -0400, edevils wrote
> (in article <jrpk1a$p2k$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
[snippo]
> (in article <jrpk1a$p2k$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
>>
>> "Up home we wear a hat like that to shoot deer in, for Chrissake, he said.
>> That's a deer shooting hat."
>> J.D. Salinger
>>
>
> Do I dare correct Salinger? (Or was it you?) "deer-shooting" should be
> hyphenated. What it means without the hyphen is "a deer that is shooting a
> hat."
>
> Never shot a deer. Never will. Not a lot of them in Manhattan...
>
Joe from NY
Jun 19, 2012, 10:04:43 AM6/19/12
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:08:22 -0400, G wrote
(in article <a4bbu6...@mid.individual.net>):
>> Do I dare correct Salinger? (Or was it you?) "deer-shooting" should be
>> hyphenated. What it means without the hyphen is "a deer that is shooting a
>> hat."
>>
> Shouldn't that be "a hat that is shooting a deer"?
Oops. Yes, you're right. And now the whole phrase has begun to sound absurd.
Even "deer-shooting hat" sounds like a hat that is shooting a deer.
I should have known better than to correct JD Salinger. :(
(in article <a4bbu6...@mid.individual.net>):
>> Do I dare correct Salinger? (Or was it you?) "deer-shooting" should be
>> hyphenated. What it means without the hyphen is "a deer that is shooting a
>> hat."
>>
> Shouldn't that be "a hat that is shooting a deer"?
Even "deer-shooting hat" sounds like a hat that is shooting a deer.
I should have known better than to correct JD Salinger. :(
edevils
Jun 20, 2012, 3:51:26 AM6/20/12
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:41:20 -0400, Joe from NY <g...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
It was an explanation. It's a typical mistake of ours. In Italian we
would use singular.
> My response to yours meant "Yes, in Italian
> you would have a communal leg but it's good to know that in English
we don't
> like to share legs. (Except in certain somewhat private
circumstances. :)
English doesn't follow Italian grammar. I guess we all agree :)
> >
> > P.s.
> > Sometimes in English you say, for instance, "We wear a hat so and
so", but
> > in that particular case I guess you mean a *type*.
> I'm sorry: I don't understand the point you're making. Type of what?
Types of hats.
Ladies hat, fishing hat, Dixie Cup hat...
> >
> > "Up home we wear a hat like that to shoot deer in, for Chrissake,
he said.
> > That's a deer shooting hat."
> > J.D. Salinger
> >
> Do I dare correct Salinger? (Or was it you?)
That's the quote I found.
> "deer-shooting" should be
> hyphenated. What it means without the hyphen is "a deer that is
shooting a
> hat."
Context helps, though.
> Never shot a deer. Never will. Not a lot of them in Manhattan...
Yep!
--
-- Just my 2 cents
wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:24:42 -0400, edevils wrote
> (in article <jrpk1a$p2k$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
> >
> >
> > "Joe from NY" wrote in message
> > news:0001HW.CC04DE93...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:07:03 -0400, edevils wrote
> > (in article <jrnn7o$j60$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> "Joe from NY" wrote
> >>
> >>>> I think Giovanni was pulling our leg. I hope he was.
> >>>
> >>
> >>>> Shouldn't that be "our legs"? I don't believe we possess a
communal leg.
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>> In Italian we would! :)
> >>
> >
> >> I thought of that afterward. Still, it's good to point out the
> >> difference(s).
> >>> P
> >
> > Why "still"? That was exactly my point too. :)
> "Still" because I inferred that your comment was somewhat of a
correction, an
> emendation of my initial comment.
It wasn't :)
> (in article <jrpk1a$p2k$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
> >
> >
> > "Joe from NY" wrote in message
> > news:0001HW.CC04DE93...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:07:03 -0400, edevils wrote
> > (in article <jrnn7o$j60$1...@speranza.aioe.org>):
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> "Joe from NY" wrote
> >>
> >>>> I think Giovanni was pulling our leg. I hope he was.
> >>>
> >>
> >>>> Shouldn't that be "our legs"? I don't believe we possess a
communal leg.
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>> In Italian we would! :)
> >>
> >
> >> I thought of that afterward. Still, it's good to point out the
> >> difference(s).
> >>> P
> >
> > Why "still"? That was exactly my point too. :)
> "Still" because I inferred that your comment was somewhat of a
correction, an
> emendation of my initial comment.
It was an explanation. It's a typical mistake of ours. In Italian we
would use singular.
> My response to yours meant "Yes, in Italian
> you would have a communal leg but it's good to know that in English
we don't
> like to share legs. (Except in certain somewhat private
circumstances. :)
> >
> > P.s.
> > Sometimes in English you say, for instance, "We wear a hat so and
so", but
> > in that particular case I guess you mean a *type*.
> I'm sorry: I don't understand the point you're making. Type of what?
Ladies hat, fishing hat, Dixie Cup hat...
> >
> > "Up home we wear a hat like that to shoot deer in, for Chrissake,
he said.
> > That's a deer shooting hat."
> > J.D. Salinger
> >
> Do I dare correct Salinger? (Or was it you?)
> "deer-shooting" should be
> hyphenated. What it means without the hyphen is "a deer that is
shooting a
> hat."
> Never shot a deer. Never will. Not a lot of them in Manhattan...
--
-- Just my 2 cents
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