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john

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Aug 13, 2010, 8:12:39 AM8/13/10
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Konichiwa.

dove posso trovare una lista Unicode dei Joyo kanji ??

In altre parole : quali dei ca. 20000 caratteri 'CJK unified Kanji'
dell'Unicode (4E00 - 9AFF) sono contemporaneamente anhe Joyo kanji,
secondo le direttive del ministero dell'istruzione giapponese ??

Grazie delle risposte.

John.

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Aug 22, 2010, 3:11:57 AM8/22/10
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+9EC4 U+9ED2 U+9ED9 U+9F13 U+9F3B U+9F62

john

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Aug 24, 2010, 10:39:09 AM8/24/10
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Nipponponpico schrieb:

> Dovrebbero essere questi:
>
> U+4E00 U+4E01 U+4E03 U+4E07 U+4E08 U+4E09 U+4E0A U+4E0B U+4E0D U+4E0E U
> +4E14 U+4E16 U+4E18 U+4E19 U+4E21 U+4E26 U+4E2D U+4E38 U+4E39 U+4E3B U


**wow !!** Fantastico ! Grazie !

John

john

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Sep 15, 2010, 6:46:31 PM9/15/10
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Nipponponpico schrieb:

> Dovrebbero essere questi:
>
> U+4E00 U+4E01 U+4E03 U+4E07 U+4E08 U+4E09 U+4E0A U+4E0B U+4E0D U+4E0E U
> +4E14 U+4E16 U+4E18 U+4E19 U+4E21 U+4E26 U+4E2D U+4E38 U+4E39 U+4E3B U
<cut>

Grazie ancora. Ora mi servirebbe la 'fonetica' oppure qualsiasi tipo di
'trasliterazione' per ognuno dei Kanji.
Dove la trovo ??

Esiste una grammatica dove, oltre alla lettra e al codice Unicode,
riporta anche la fonetica tranlitterata ?

Arigatou

John

Nipponponpico

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Oct 15, 2010, 4:34:16 PM10/15/10
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Molto in ritardo ma se servisse ancora...
http://www16.atpages.jp/kanjikentei/hyogaiyomi.html
la prima colonna con le letture standard, l'altra con quelle
"eccezionali"
Poi letture e molti altri dati li trovi nel kanjidic di breen
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/kanjidic.html
Unica cosa da notare è che lì dentro non ci sono solo i joyo kanji ma
molti altri.
Se sai smanettare con i database fa di certo comodo.
Alla traslitterazione in romaji sono contrario quindi non posso
aiutarti.

john

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Oct 16, 2010, 7:54:02 AM10/16/10
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Nipponponpico schrieb:

> Molto in ritardo ma se servisse ancora...

sempre in tempo ! Arigatou! :-)

> http://www16.atpages.jp/kanjikentei/hyogaiyomi.html
> la prima colonna con le letture standard, l'altra con quelle
> "eccezionali"
> Poi letture e molti altri dati li trovi nel kanjidic di breen
> http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/kanjidic.html

> Unica cosa da notare � che l� dentro non ci sono solo i joyo kanji ma


> molti altri.
> Se sai smanettare con i database fa di certo comodo.
> Alla traslitterazione in romaji sono contrario quindi non posso
> aiutarti.
>

ottimo. grazie !

La transliterazione in romaji (una traslitterazione speciale
computer-oriented, non quella dell'ISO) mi � necessaria per un mio
progetto mio.

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