Re: Iskcon law and protocols to investigate, is it a true Iskcon law book ? - Researching Cult behavior

[Pratyatosa Das ACBSP]

Dear Maharajas and Prabhus, PAMHO. AGTSP!

The truly advanced devotee sees that he is not a devotee but that everyone else is a devotee.—Śrīla Prabhupāda

Thinking oneself lower than the straw in the street, one should be more tolerant than a tree.—Lord Caitanya

Anyone who has any desire or aspiration for satisfying his senses by becoming more and more important, either in the material sense or in the spiritual sense, cannot actually relish the really sweet taste of devotional service.—Śrīla Prabhupāda

If all of the ISKCON leaders were "truly advanced devotees" it would be impossible for them to abuse anyone, but are they thinking, "I am an important devotee, but you're not!" This, according to Srila Prabhupada, is not the way advanced devotees think. In fact, IMHO, ISKCON leaders, generally speaking, do not even have the humility of the average karmi! Therefore, ISKCON, with its group of unelected leaders, and its factions, caused by voted-in, pretender gurus, is doomed!

How can ISKCON be saved? IMHO, only Madhu Pandit Dasa has enough power/wisdom to save ISKCON, ISKCON leaders should go to him, beg his forgiveness, and beg him to please help save ISKCON!

Your servant, Pratyatosa Das

PS: Here are 2 emails that I sent to the Sampradaya Sun, which resulted in no reply and no action. (Yet another case of a lack of humility?)

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From: Pratyatosa Das ACBSP <praty...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 4:12 AM
Subject: Mistake
To: S...@harekrsna.com <s...@harekrsna.com>

Concerning <https://www.Aharekrsna.com/sun/editACorials/09-17/editorials15310.htm>, "If the captain of the ship says “5° starboard” and the first mate replies, “But captain, before you told me ‘10° port,’” then it can be understood that the first mate has gone insane." These are my words, not Srila Prabhupada's! (<https://pratyatosa.com/?P=27#FollowTheLatestOrder>)

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From: Pratyatosa Das ACBSP <praty...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Mistake
To: S...@harekrsna.com <s...@harekrsna.com>

Want more proof? Do a VedaBase search for the word "starboard." Zero hits! In other words the word "starboard" is not even part of Srila Prabhupada's vocabulary!

On Sun, Jul 3, 2022 at 4:47 PM Radhika Papazoglou <radhik...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Iskcon GBC Executive Council

Hare Krishna 

I write to query with your esteemed and knowledgeable Iskcon GBC Executive Committee for myself and in the interests of public information, for the global Iskcon communities a few questions to you .

1)What is the Iskcon law and protocols to investigate and is it a true Iskcon law book ?

2)Is the lawbook applicable only for and meant to only keep the global community members “ in check” or policed by the GBC ?

3)Is the lawbook exempt for the international GBC members and it’s rank and file members, and any and all criminal activities, financial fraud,coverups ,corruption, abuses of all descriptions against Iskcon members etc,..?

4)What exactly is its purpose other than what is found on the internet ?Meaning what is the shady and illegal part of Iskcon law book purposes where the Iskcon GBC and rank and file , “Child Protection office and its laws passed , decades late “  , “Domestic Violence laws recently passed ,decades late “ etc,.. where corrupt GBC members themselves in Iskcon North America have used and abused the Iskcon law book as tools for their personal benefit ,their hive mentality  United front benefit, to protect and insulate lawbreakers and sexual abusers  , domestic violence abusers and those like in my case International Institute for Applied Spiritual Technology and Iskcon of  the District of Columbia, ( both based out in Washington D. C , United States Of America),both religious 501 C organizations ,under the North American Convention of Temples ,Whom Anuttama das ( Mr Geoffrey Walker), is not only the abusive cult leader of this east coast zone , but has ignored the Iskcon law book itself and its protocols ,in my case.He is in all respects leading Iskcon ,Solo and without checks and balances and with impunity ,as I can prove with my case , which I can prove according to Iskcon law itself( let alone going against Srila Prabhupada instructions, , sadhu, sastra and guru , the International GBC governing laws itself and its laws to hold him accountable and responsible for his years and years of use and abuse of his membership as a GBC .

5) I have written you of my intention of going public with my story via media and the legal consequences of Ifast and Iskcon abuses against me etc,..this is just to serve that I have been dutiful to you the Iskcon international GBC and to the corrupt North American Governing Body Commission members( whom till today have remained radio silent and don’t have any integrity, credibility and spine to admit to their abuses against me) , this includes Bhaktitirtha Swami , leaders and members whom abused me and violated me , gang raped my life and marriage, was strangled by my husband and whom himself stated to me “ I did this for my godfamily , international institute for Applied Spiritual Technology and Iskcon.

All abuse and harm was executed with precision with Anuttama das not only was mastermind of coverup of it all but mentored “my then good and principled husband “,but is directly and contributed to and involved in sponsoring with his cult tactics and behavior ,”together with IFAST Leaders and members ( those officially identified to both religious organizations) ,the cult sponsored domestic violence against me and my tiny framed physical body ).

While I was being abused by both organizations and my husband and his relationship with his godsister ( unknown to me ) and was being battered for and later abandoned and left homeless etc,....Anuttama das went on a public relations spin which the international GBC I believe was not aware of in North America( correct me if I am wrong and my apologies )..

Here’s the spin :to hide Ifast and Iskcon involvement in abusing me etc,..Anuttama das began a coverup campaign against me, the devotee communities, the  public and concealing their involvement ,”from the greater international GBC members “.

Facts: I wrote to www.ICSAhome.com and I also wrote to a Professor Burke Rochford , for help.Nothing came of it but was glad to have gained some knowledge from icsa website .

To Anuttama das ,it is very important that you do not misrepresent Iskcon to cult professionals, experts and do not lie to them, because you will be found out soon …for what you did against me and my family…

It is always important to tell them the truth …so should your wife Rukmini  and Radha Devi Dasi .You guys need to be truthful to Iskcon victims as well , globally .

Mr Geoffrey Walker went had a conference with a ICSA member on abuse and it’s on Youtube , then he went to New Vrindaban, West Virginia and together with a Praharana Devi Dasi ( from Canada )spoke on leadership , clergy abuse etc,..

This spin horrified me at the lengths Anuttama das takes to coverup his own cult behavior and abuses against me and my brainwashed, under undue influence and coerced husband, at Ifast, Iskcon and Anuttama das hands and their role played even till today as I write you all on this email…

Pratyatosa prabhu, you have been the only kind Prabhupada disciple to me , though I do not know you nor ever met you .

Thank you for this kindness and your courage to speak truth to the devotees and the GBC members . It is also the kindness of Puranjan das ( Mr Tim Lee ) , whom blogs on cult related issues and violations against women and children , silencing our voices etc,..from speaking out , not only exposes but is a blog that law enforcement should study so we the victims of all types and descriptions of abuses at the hands of Ifast and Iskcon is recorded and to uphold our legal rights.

Yes, you read this correctly Anuttama das( Mr Geoffrey Walker), that Srila Prabhupada and the devotees have legal rights , worldwide and no amount of your silencing, coverups etc,..against the courageous victims, including your victims and myself as your collective victim, can “(SILENCE THE LAW AND THE LAWS VOICE)” 

We do not or may not  have vast wealth , power , GBC positions etc,..like yourself Anuttama das , but we have life and we are alive to tell our stories .

It is time that every single Ifast and Iskcon member stand with its original Iskcon  founder Srila Prabhupada and speak up and tell reporters of their pain and suffering, abuses etc,.. fraud and corruption etc,..whether they are past , present or kicked out, banned devotees …they have  every right to get their pain and suffering told and addressed and told to law enforcement and files opened with FBI and Department of Justice and United Nations etc,..

Mr Geoffrey Walker , I do not hate anybody nor you , I only sought the protection and defense  of my family against two cults that were in good standing but turned into cults here in the USA and whom hunted me down like a animal and put a target on my life.

One that would take me on a horrific journey that I never ever imagined in my marriage to my husband and my spiritual journey within and outside Iskcon Potomac ( Iskcon of D.C ) and the backlash and pushback and United front of these two religious organizations showed as a weaponized and wealthy powerful force not to be reckoned with , against a innocent housewife…

It is time the good law abiding Srila Prabhupada disciples and Iskcon members globally , reach out to the victims as help them..

It is time the GBC face the might and long arms of the law.

Ifast and Iskcon in North America, intentionally and willfully caused and made me suffer at their hands and never once considered me a human being nor a devotee,..they however do see me as a stray dog and forced me to live as one ..

Now it’s my time , no matter how much Ifast and Iskcon continue their lawlessness against me , I will hold Ifast and Iskcon to the law.

Anuttama das , as a corrupt leader , you held me to Iskcon law , the very Iskcon law book that you and the GBC and rank and file ignore and do not follow at all ,where it concerns those whom are part of the corrupt inner circle within the GBC and by extension those whom you recruit and whom you abuse and those whom become unwitting cult victims, like my beloved husband.

Yes , ladies and gentlemen, cult education experts , law enforcement etc,..I love and care for my husband and as his wife and family , ( though he abused me and is under undue influence and coercion and brainwashed by Ifast and Iskcon and Anuttama das ), it is my vows I took upon my court marriage ,in front of the court and my wedding ,to protect him.

I have my duty as a wife and as an American citizen to my husband against Ifast and Iskcon cult abuses and violence ,on both our lives ..

To the International GBC , I humbly request you heed Srila Prabhupada instructions, hear from Ifast and Iskcon victims , do right by every single member whom were abused and violated even as Srila Prabhupada lived and after he left this world .

Iskcon and Ifast is “not exclusive to God “, every human being and living entity has equal rights to serving God , if they so believe in God .

What rights and legal rights can you provide me and the global public and media reporters , (your exclusive rights to serving God and kicking and banning those of us human beings , considered unworthy by the GBC and rank and file Iskcon leadership , significantly when your very victims speak out to the world and make public their stories of the crimes you perpetrate on us, our physical bodies , our minds, our intelligence in all respects , the very breath God gave us to live and in cases where Iskcon took lives and lives were taken by suicide because your singular interest was preservation and protection of the institution, its powerful and wealthy leaders and members , retention of your powerful positions at all costs etc,.. living with impunity against criminal behavior of all descriptions etc,..and against Iskcon GBC Governing global laws ,itself , give legal facts and evidence why you harm Iskcon and it’s members , why do you do this in the name of Srila Prabhupada and His Iskcon , that he worked so hard to establish for not the Cult GBC leadership , but it is for mankind that he has deep live and compassion for.

Srila Prabhupada disciples , if I am wrong about anything , please accept my apologies herein.

I hope you inform every respectable and professional Cult education experts that we indeed have suffered and brace and courageous members of Iskcon and Ifast ,have a right to tell them our stories and help us hold our abusers to account and responsibility, to court action , to media investigations etc,..

A true religion does not silence it’s members voices.

Anuttama das , you must immediately resign from all Iskcon positions as you are a danger to my family and Iskcon.

This includes all whom work with you and support your cult leadership abuses against us .

I have a duty to my family and by extension to the International GBC leadership to inform them that Iskcon has for decades turned to cult behaviors and that you as GBC abd it’s global members must immediately begin public investigations into these dangerous behaviors , begin with Anuttama das behavior and Iskcon victims over the  decades and everything will unravel …

A true accounting and media investigations, cult investigations etc,.. law enforcement investigations etc,..is the example of Srila Prabhupadas disciple , ( the now late Kirtananda das case at New Vrindaban, West Virginia, USA ),.

Dear International GBC , when you get ill , it’s broadcast all over the internet,devotees are asked to pray , you get top medical care , you get top prasadam ( sanctified food), you get so much care in all respects , no harm in receiving this attention…

But when devotees are abused and sexually violated, kicked , banned , ostracized etc,..from speaking out and searching for help and zero help comes from you the GBC and gurus and leaders etc,.. kindly explain why we are treated as non human and treated differently than you ?

Perhaps , we all need to study Srila Prabhpada life and Lord Jesus Christ life , Lord Caitanya life and our parampara system and learn from them , the true nature of being a human being and being a child of God and how they worked and lived to give Mankind , love of fellow human beings and love of  God .

Mr Geoffrey Walker, I did not join Iskcon to be violated and cheated by your cult leadership.

I joined to seek knowledge of God , to learn about and to love God , to learn about life itself ,learn about earth ,  other planets , other life forms etc,..Love of my fellow man etc,..so much more ..why are we born , learn out our souls , , where do we go after death , what happens to our souls after death ,so many questions ,so much to learn…nor did I join Iskcon to just be a parrot , I use my own intelligence to be decisive in living my life with integrity and not living my life because you call the shots in my life and my marriage etc,..

My intelligence is not something you can take from me , never !

You recruited my husband and mentored him , where till today he cannot understand how he was brainwashed, coerced , undue influence imposed on my highly intelligent husband.Ifast is heavily involved in the same cult behavioral assault against my husband.

With this intelligence, I hold Ifast and Iskcon to the law for harming me and my family .I do this for the good of the world .

I never ever harmed Ifast and Iskcon but they harmed me and I almost died at their collective hands , trying to silence me….from ever speaking out out about the abuses .

To protect my life as I go public with my story  and find answers behind what happened to my husband within Ifast and Iskcon and which resulted in violence against me and my marriage and our lives etc,.. the FBI and Department of Justice and United Nations will be notified and will request to meet with them and cult professionals so I am understood 

I wish no one  harm .Everyone whom is abused has their own experiences in life and they have a right to share and get help for their suffering.

My journey to protect myself and my family is my own original work in progress , a violent cult journey ,forced upon my life , my marriage, my membership within Iskcon , so much harm done and can only find answers by law enforcement investigations and cult experts investigations etc,..and the media and medical investigations on how cults behavior and violence etc,.. affects human beings , marriages ,spiritual seekers , ordinary folks ,  etc,.. 

I am just an ordinary housewife and my story will be told, investigations made however it happens and will lead to answers I sought since August 2004 when I was first strangled …that day began my journey to find answers behind what really happened to my husband within Ifast and Iskcon and which endangered our lives in so many ways .

Endangering human life is use of cult tactics and behavior using brainwashing, mind control, undue influence, coercion etc,.. control of an individual..

International GBC members and IFAST , know that your intentions to willfully harm me and my family has brought consequences upon yourselves of your own making.

I also know that nor all members of Iskcon and Ifast have harmed me and my husband.

I have clearly identified my abusers as far as I know since I began investigating both Ifast and Iskcon.

We have a lot of work to do , including all manner of social behavior and predjudice of human beings ..within Ifast and Iskcon.

Each and every member has a contribution to Iskcon and their concerns must be listened to and addressed for the health of Iskcon , for our wellbeing ,no one joins a religious organization to be violated abused , I did not nor did my husband, nor did you yourselves as GBC members ..but here we are since Iskcon was born and the abuses rages on with no end in sight except  the consequences and continued silencing , banning, kicking out , ostracizing folks from your zones , “coverups by leaderships  for their friends “and “against victims “.

I cannot request you to stop , because you won’t, so we have only to go to media, lawyers, law enforcement etc,..to help us.

I am sure you agree , if you just get proper help to look at your behaviors.

I hope you now understand why  I have been working hard since August 2004 and investigating both Ifast and Iskcon and Anuttama das …if you still don’t then you soon will.

Thank you kindly for reading my email.

-- 
Radhika Papazoglou

[Upendranath Dasa]

To: 

Pratyatosa Das , who is Madhu-pandit's Guru?.  He claims he came to service Prabhupada's mission, but who initiated him to begin with. I accept what he has done, and concur with breakaway from the ISKCON GBC; but that is no qualification; it is an accomplishment.   So again, can he explain, why he took iniciation from a bogus ISKCON gURU, TO BEGIN WITH.

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