"Mayapur and Phalguni's Affair"

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Pratyatosa

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Oct 28, 2019, 9:00:14 PM10/28/19
to Dr. Edith Best (Urmila Devi Dasi), Mayapur Fiorentino, camp...@gmail.com, phal...@radharani.com, Bhakti Charu Swami, Madhusevita acbsp, Bhaktivaib...@pamho.net, Bir Krishna das Goswami, Bir Krishna das Goswami (Organizer), Srutakirti dasa, Michael Best, Keshava Best, Madhu Pandit, William G. Benedict, David Shapiro, nico kuyt, Nitya-Trpta, Eddy Gaasbeek (Ekanatha dasa), Bhima (das) ACBSP (BBT India, Juhu, Mumbai - IN), Claudia Liliana Rasamalai, Caru Dasa - Utah, Hansadutta Das, Madhuha Dasa, Nama Best, Malati Devi Dasi, Her...@windstream.net, Nori Muster, Jayapataka Swami, istag...@googlegroups.com
To my wife, Urmila Devi Dasi, my only daughter, Campakalata Devi Dasi, my ex-son-in-law, Mayapurcandra Das, and Mayapur's 2nd wife, Phalguni Radhika Devi Dasi: Because of <https://truthseekers108.wixsite.com/home/blog/costa-rica> and other recent revelations, it's become obvious to me that all 4 of you are pathological liars and don't even rise to the standard of morality of the average karmi! Therefore, I'm sad to say that I recommend that your toxic association be strictly avoided until you rectify yourselves! How about starting with an apology for all the pain you've caused to so many people? The 4 of you have obviously gone completely insane!

ISLAND

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Oct 29, 2019, 5:28:13 AM10/29/19
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Why do you want to discuss family matters in public?
Ys
Nityananda das

Pratyatosa

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Oct 29, 2019, 6:06:52 AM10/29/19
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Good question, Nityananda Prabhu.

Family members, including my wife's 2 sons, have been trying for years to "reign in their mother" without success! She refuses to listen to them!

These 4 are pretending to be members-in-good-standing of ISKCON, but they have become simply an embarrassment to ISKCON! They have also become a huge embarrassment to their family, friends, and to their gurus!

They are thinking, "I am very spiritually advanced," but, in fact, they have obviously gone completely mad! They spend money like it's water, endlessly ocean hopping, year after year! Their only visible means of support is their incompetently done <https://www.radharani.com> website (Try going to <https://www.radharani.com/who-we-are>,  scrolling down a bit, and clicking on, for example, the picture on the right of the 4 "who we are" pictures. You get "00100dPORTRAIT_00100_BURST2019050711231!" What's that supposed to mean? I complained about this twice, including several days ago, to no avail!

Why should 4 incompetent, immoral rascals get an annual budget from the GBC (204,000 INR), be chairperson of the GBC's SAC (Sastric Advisory Council), be an associate editor for BTG magazine, give lectures in ISKCON temple rooms, teach gurukula, and be in charge of a  501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization which keeps it's spending habits secret (which is illegal)!

<https://truthseekers108.wixsite.com/home/blog/costa-rica> has been posted on Facebook (For example, <https://www.facebook.com/kulavira/posts/10161694526875468>, with 469 comments so far) and on Google Groups (<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/istagosthi/cdkV5vnqDvg>). Obviously, the Detroit devotees are very upset about being the victims of a low-class wife stealer, pretending to be a devotee, and they are not going to remain silent!

My wife's latest YouTube video, <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9eW_YXY-7c> has only 35 views and her audience is only about a dozen people! Was that worth flying to England for? My daughter's latest YouTube video has only 131 views! Was that worth flying from India to Hillsboruogh, NC for?

Someone has to convince these 4 that they are incompetent, in big illusion, and more immoral than the average karmi! The opinions of friends, family, the GBC, and their "gurus" have zero effect on them! Therefore, going public with their nonsense seems to be the only hope for them!

BTW, have you seen their crazy polygamy wedding video, which they are desperately trying to hide?: https://m.ok.ru/video/1430537243337

Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa

Pratyatosa

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Oct 30, 2019, 10:22:26 PM10/30/19
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Here is how my eldest son, Murari Das, defended his mother and sister:

Murari: Regarding <https://truthseekers108.wixsite.com/home/blog/costa-rica>, I just read through it and checked the attached references. I do not know whether Mayapur and Phalguni had a "secret affair" or not, but there are a few things in the blog post that are wrong or misrepresented.

Me: The point is that Mayapur has proven that he's as mentally disturbed as I suspected right from the start. Your mother, because of her insane attachment to him, has embarrassed a lot of people, especially her immediate family. You are her eldest son. Her only hope is to give you and/or Keshava complete control over her assets!

Murari: For example, it says, "Both hosts’ replies confirmed that he had a woman with him." The attached conversations don't support that, however. In one, the host says, "I only saw his profile picture" and so doesn't actually know who stayed in the house. The fact is that Mayapur's Airbnb profile picture at the time was of him and his daughter. The other host doesn't say much at all, although the blog post claims that she "saw them and confirmed [various details]".

Me: But what is the result? A crazy wedding video of Mayapur marrying another man's wife! If your mother and Campaka had any brains, they would have nothing more to do with Mayapur! I recommend that your family and Keshava's family have nothing more to do with your mother or Campaka until they agree to cut off all contact with Mayapur! Also, there's no way that they'll take you seriously until you and/or Keshava take complete control of their assets!

Murari: I'm thinking more about the issue of whether people are lying. Since this blog post is making incorrect claims, it's probably not the best source to use for the truth. The post talks about an email being sent from the Costa Rican timezone, but gets it wrong. Costa Rica's timezone is -6, and email was sent from a -5 timezone. The -7 timezone in the email is Pacific time, which is just the time of the email servers.

Me: Why did your mother yell at your wife for even suggesting that Campaka get a divorce, and then saying it's OK for her to get a divorce? Why did your mother send you the wedding video like she was proud of it, and then cause it to be taken down when it was posted on YouTube?

Murari: Regarding the divorce, there is a difference. It's like if you "quit your job", that could mean leaving the company, but it could also mean you are no longer an employee and continue to work for the company as a contractor. I did that once when I wanted to switch to part-time work while I went to school.

Me: Are Mayapur and Phalguni going to get legally married?

Murari: I don't know what their plans are.

Me: Jayapataka said that they must get legally married. Wasn't that the reason for the divorce?

Murari: [No reply]

This exchange confirms what I suspected: That my daughter's divorcing her husband doesn't mean that she no longer regards him as her husband. Now she is a "part-time" wife, whatever that means! Campaka's guru's, Bir Krishna's, excuse for her getting a divorce is that Phalguni's guru, Jayapataka, said that she and Mayapur must be legally married in order to live together in the Holy Dham. Will they ever get legally married? Probably not, since Urmila and Mayapur regard themselves as being much more spiritual advanced than any silly ISKCON guru!

Your servant, Pratyatosa Das


On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 6:03 AM Pratyatosa <praty...@gmail.com> wrote:
Good question, Nityananda Prabhu.

Family members, including my wife's 2 sons, have been trying for years to "reign in their mother" without success! She refuses to listen to them!

These 4 are pretending to be members-in-good-standing of ISKCON, but they have become simply an embarrassment to ISKCON! They have also become a huge embarrassment to their family, friends, and to their gurus!

They are thinking, "I am very spiritually advanced," but, in fact, they have obviously gone completely mad! They spend money like it's water, endlessly ocean hopping, year after year! Their only visible means of support is their incompetently done <https://www.radharani.com> website (Try going to <https://www.radharani.com/who-we-are>,  scrolling down a bit, and clicking on, for example, the picture on the right of the 4 "who we are" pictures. You get "00100dPORTRAIT_00100_BURST2019050711231!" What's that supposed to mean? I complained about this twice, including several days ago, to no avail!

Why should 4 incompetent, immoral rascals get an annual budget from the GBC (204,000 INR), be chairperson of the GBC's SAC (Sastric Advisory Council), be an associate editor for BTG magazine, give lectures in ISKCON temple rooms, teach ISKCON's children, and be in charge of a  501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization which keeps it's spending habits secret (which is illegal)!

<https://truthseekers108.wixsite.com/home/blog/costa-rica> has been posted on Facebook (For example, <https://www.facebook.com/kulavira/posts/10161694526875468>, with 469 comments so far) and on Google Groups (<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/istagosthi/cdkV5vnqDvg>). Obviously, the Detroit devotees are very upset about being the victims of a low-class wife stealer, pretending to be a devotee, and they are not going to remain silent!

My wife's latest YouTube video, <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9eW_YXY-7c> has only 35 views and her audience is only about a dozen people! Was that worth flying to England for? My daughter's latest YouTube video (<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJS5M3AODoo>) has only 131 views! Was that worth flying from India to Hillsborough, NC for?

Someone has to convince these 4 that they are incompetent, in big illusion, and more immoral than the average karmi! The opinions of friends, family, the GBC, and their "gurus" have zero effect on them! Therefore, going public with their nonsense seems to be the only hope for them!

BTW, have you seen their crazy polygamy wedding video, which they are desperately trying to hide?: https://m.ok.ru/video/1430537243337

Your servant, Pratyatosa Das

Nori Muster

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Oct 31, 2019, 9:43:57 AM10/31/19
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Hi All - I hope all those who want to be removed from the mailing list get removed.
This feels more like an internal family situation than a tragic turn toward polygamy in ISKCON. 
I wish the best for everyone involved. 
Nori

Pratyatosa

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Oct 31, 2019, 10:32:57 AM10/31/19
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"Internal family situation?" I'm part of the family involved, and I had no clue as to what was going on until last May when someone asked me about the following Facebook post: <https://www.facebook.com/kulavira/posts/10161694526875468> (470 comments so far!). What a shock! What an embarrassment! By that time, at least 2 members of the GBC were already involved (Jayapataka & Bir Krishna), and the situation was very embarrassing to them also, because they are the "gurus" of 2 of the participants. Unlike my crazy wife and my crazy daughter, at least they had enough brains to condemn the situation! But then Bir Krishna makes my daughter a gurukula teacher/headmaster! How crazy is that?

IMHO, nobody should have anything to do with my wife and daughter until they vow to have nothing more to do with the low-class wife stealer, Mayapurcandra Das!

Pratyatosa

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Nov 17, 2019, 8:53:47 AM11/17/19
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Posted on Facebook just now (in 2 places):

Concerning <https://m.ok.ru/video/1430537243337>, a young Hare Krishna woman from Detroit, who was already married by Vedic fire sacrifice, seduces a mentally disturbed Hare Krishna grandfather (my son-in-law when he visited Detroit) who was already married (to my only daughter) by Vedic fire sacrifice, and then this Detroit woman gets married again (to the mentally disturbed grandfather that she seduced), in India, in a Vedic fire sacrifice polygamy wedding! IMHO, all 4 participants in this sham of a wedding, including my wife, have gone completely bananas! This is a huge embarrassment to the Hare Krishna movement and to my entire family, including my 14 grandchildren! What am I supposed to do? Pretend that it never happened? And who is the most stupid, my wife (an associate editor of ISKCON's BTG magazine and the chair of the ISKCON GBC's Sastric Advisory Council), my daughter (a GBC approved gurukula teacher/gurukula headmaster), or this Detroit woman?


On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 10:28 AM Pratyatosa <praty...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Internal family situation?" I'm part of the family involved, and I had no clue as to what was going on until last May when someone asked me about the following Facebook post: <https://www.facebook.com/kulavira/posts/10161694526875468> (470 comments so far!). What a shock! What an embarrassment! By that time, at least 2 members of the GBC were already involved (Jayapataka & Bir Krishna), and the situation was very embarrassing to them also, because they are the "gurus" of 3 of the participants. Unlike my crazy wife and my crazy daughter, at least they had enough brains to condemn the situation! But then Bir Krishna makes my daughter a gurukula teacher/headmaster! How crazy is that?

rainer hahn

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Nov 17, 2019, 10:30:58 AM11/17/19
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What does your daughter say about being a co-wife?  Is this man financially able to maintain two wives? "Polygamy is the act or condition of a person marrying another person while still being lawfully married to another spouse. As this is the very definition of bigamy, it is illegal in the United States". Wikipedia: "Thus polygamy became illegal in India in 1956, uniformly for all of its citizens except for Muslims, who are permitted to have four wives and for Hindus in Goa and along the western coast where bigamy is legal. A polygamous Hindu marriage is null and void."

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Pratyatosa

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Nov 17, 2019, 10:58:48 AM11/17/19
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My daughter has been advertising for a co-wife for more than 10 years! Now that she's finally got one, I don't think that she's very happy about the way it happened! (Wife stealing is punishable by death according to the Vedic system!)

Mayapur is too mentally unstable to hold down a job or to start his own business! But he's in charge of a charity that my wife started and has turned over to him. However, it says "100% of Donations go to serving the community" (<https://www.radharani.com/donate>)! The only thing I can figure is that he considers himself to be part of "the community," so he siphons off money for himself as he pleases, including for a great deal of ocean hopping!

It's a US 501c3 corporation. They are legally obligated to give copies of their IRS tax forms to whomever requests them. If anyone decides to take the trouble of requesting them, say for the past 5 years, please let us know what happens.


kr...@krsna.faith

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Jan 10, 2020, 11:06:22 AM1/10/20
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This is another example of --

Formation of Untraditional Families Inside Untraditional Friends: A perverted reflection of the traditional family and traditional friend systems 


17 Nov 2019, 15:57 by praty...@gmail.com:
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