Why Rocana and Damaghosa Are Worse than the Average Karmi

[Pratyatosa]

Dear Prabhus, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

The subject of this message may sound a bit harsh, but unfortunately it's 100% true. The tip-offs are as follows:

Both of these men:

1. ...are guilty of the worst possible wife abuse by divorcing one or more of their then current wives.

2. ...have demonstrated over the years that they are completely incapable of displaying even a modicum of Vaisnava humility.

3. ...want to be gurus, but are not qualified even by the ISKCON GBC's low standards.

4. ...are yet again re-married, but even though each of them sleeps with his "wife" in a big double bed, neither of them have given their "wives" any children!

5. ...tried to get disciples outside of ISKCON, but found that the only way that they could do that was to legally marry a prospective female disciple!

6. ...have given their "wives" spiritual names.

7. ...have not allowed their "wives" to take initiation from a guru other than themselves.

8. ...do not have enough spiritual potency to get their "wives" to chant 16 rounds.

9. ...do not follow the 4 regulative principles, and, obviously, neither do their "wives."

Why do I put "wives" in quotes? Because neither of them have a husband-wife relationship because there are no children being produced. Obviously they have an extremely abominable guru-disciple relationship which involves illicit sex between the guru and his disciple. This is exactly like a teacher having sex with his student or a father having sex with his daughter. Extremely disgusting and abominable! Completely against even the lowest standards of Vedic principles.

How do they avoid having children? Abortion as a backup for failed birth control?

If you still want to associate with these lower-than-the-average-karmi rascals, then be my guest!

Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa < http://groups.google.com/group/istagosthi>, <http://causelessmercy.com/>, <http://rtvik.com/>, <http://pratyatosa.com/>, <http://feedacow.com/>, <http://llbest.com/>

[P Conroy]

wow !  who needs karmi enemies with devotee exchanges like below. Prabhupada would be proud of his disciple

for spreading KC so strongly. what a waste    

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[charles dowson]

Well that tears it. I have no choice now but to completely disassociate myself with Pratyatosa. I can no longer use his web site for research as it will remind me of his great elephant offense. I would like to block him but so far my efforts don't work. I will check with my wife who is our top computer expert.
 
Hasti Gopala dasa
 

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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:25:11 -0400
Subject: Re: [Prabhupadanuga] Why Rocana and Damaghosa Are Worse than the Average Karmi
From: saty...@gmail.com
To: istag...@googlegroups.com

[Pratyatosa]

Dear Hasti Gopala Prabhu, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

So, according to you it's OK for Damaghosa Dasa to make really, really nasty ad hominem attacks against me! According to you it's also OK for him to block my emails (see below) simply because I informed him about Srila Prabhupada's final order on diacritics! But, according to you, I'm not allowed to tell the truth about him and his abusive marital relationships?

By ignoring Srila Prabhupada's repeated instruction that the husband must give the wife at least one son, preferably two, Damaghosa is obviously simply exploiting her for his own sense gratification.

Now, when he is reminded about Srila Prabhupada's "vanaprastha at age 50" order, he responds with excuses and rationalizations.

Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa

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[Pratyatosa]

"Divorce to married devotees should be as unthinkable as eating meat." (<http://oneiskcon.com/?p=1760>)

[Pratyatosa]

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:51 PM, <DasD...@aol.com> wrote:

I am still at a loss as to why Pratyatosha launched his attack upon myself, Sri Mukunda and others.

Since you block my emails, Damaghosa Prabhu, you don't know what's going on. The reason that this topic came up is the following unsolicited message which I received from Srimukunda Dasa on August 23, 2011:

"The book is HKS, so tell the HKS specifically what you disagree with by giving us the page number of the section in question.  No one has done this in the 7 years since the book was first published.  Not Rocana, not the GBC, no one except Prat---- whose only criticism was we used the wrong FONT." (<http://groups.google.com/group/istagosthi/browse_thread/thread/72f8b5ca50645cfb/4aa9fd245fd52710>)

This is yet another one of Srimukunda's straw man arguments. My criticism of the HKS's only printed publication is that it's authors disobeyed Srila Prabhupada's "diacritics henceforward" order. It has nothing to do with "FONTS."

Please note that Srimukunda dasa refers to me as "Prat----," as if the name that Srila Prabhupada gave me, in person, is a dirty word. This is an insult to Srila Prabhupada. (See: <http://causelessmercy.com/t/?P=710720RC.NY&TP=568>)

Therefore, I was simply defending myself and Srila Prabhupada.

Ys, Ptd

PS: "[For devotees, ] divorce ... should be as unthinkable as eating meat." (<http://oneiskcon.com/?p=1760>)

[Pratyatosa]

Here are 2 idioms which Srila Prabhupada would sometimes quote:

"Without a son, married life is simply
abominable." (Chanakya Pandit)

"You have got wife, but if you have no children,
that grha (household) is void." (Chanakya Pandit)

Ys, Ptd