chapter and verse
larry freeman p
july9th
Prabhupada’s position, and those who continue to follow them as so
called disciples, their destination has already been chalked out:
“Anyone, if he is a pure devotee he can deliver others, he can become
spiritual master. But unless he is on that platform he should not
attempt it. Then both of them will go to hell, like blind men leading
the blind.”
(Srila Prabhupada Letter, 14/12/71)
“By a false display of religious sentiments, they present a show of
devotional service while indulging in all sorts of immoral
activities. In this way they pass as spiritual masters and devotees
of God. [...] These rogues are the most dangerous elements in human
society [...] They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who
has clearly declared in Bhagavad gita that envious demons in the garb
of religious propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of
hell. Sri Isopanisad confirms that these pseudo religionists are
heading toward the most obnoxious place in the universe after the
completion of their spiritual master business, which they conduct
simply for sense gratification.”
(Sri Isopanisad, mantra 12, purport)
hope this helps
larry freeman p
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Going to hell without a doubt
"As for your next question, can only a few pure devotees deliver
others, anyone, if he is a pure devotee he can deliver others, he can
become spiritual master. But unless he is on that platform he should
not attempt it. Then both of them will to go to hell, like blind men
leading the blind."
(Srila Prabhupada Letter, December 14th, 1972)
"Leaders who have fallen into ignorance and who mislead people by
directing them to the path of destruction [as described in the
previous verse] are, in effect, boarding a stone boat, and so too are
those who blindly follow them. A stone boat would be unable to float
and would sink in the water with its passengers. Similarly, those who
mislead people go to hell, and their followers go with them."
(Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.7.14)
"And the rascal, blind leaders are leading everyone to hell. They are
simply misleaders. People do not like to accept any authority. Still,
they have accepted these rascals as leaders and are being misled. In
this way both the rascal leaders and their unfortunate followers
remain bound up by the stringent laws of material nature."
(The Laws of Nature, chapter 1)
"Generally a fashionable materialist engages a so-called spiritual
master without any profit. The pseudo spiritual master flatters the so-
called disciple, and thereby both the master and his ward go to hell
without a doubt."
(Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.19.37, purport)
God sends a cheater to the insincere
Srila Prabhupada: "If you simply want an ordinary education, you have
to devote so much time, labor, and understanding to it. Similarly, if
you are going to take to spiritual life, you must become serious."
Reporter: "I wondered how many people you think might have been taken
in by fake gurus."
Srila Prabhupada: "Practically everyone. [Laughter.] There is no
question of counting. Everyone."
Reporter: "This would mean thousands of people, wouldn't it?"
Srila Prabhupada: "Millions. Millions have been cheated, because they
want to be cheated. God is omniscient. He can understand your desires.
He is within your heart, and if you want to be cheated, God sends you
a cheater."
(The Science of Self-Realization, chapter 2)
"Guru is there, but unless you are actually serious, you cannot get
real guru. If you want to be cheated or if you are a cheater, then
you'll get a cheater guru."
(Srila Prabhupada Room Conversation, January 8th, 1977)
Innocence is no excuse
"Innocence is no excuse of law. [...] So you have to become such
intelligent person that you may not be misled by others. You have got
the intelligence. Why should you be misled? Then what is the meaning
of this human form of life? And you have to be educated. You have to
take the opportunity of education so that you may not be misled. Why
do you agree to be misled? Then you must agree to take the punishment
also."
(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, June 23rd, 1968)
No benefit or happiness in accepting a false guru
"The misguided conditioned soul also approaches so-called sadhus and
swamis who preach against the principles of the Vedas. He does not
receive benefit from them, either in the present or in the future."
(Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.14.13)
"One cannot become happy by accepting a false guru. A guru should be
accepted as advised in Srimad-Bhagavatam. Tasmad gurum prapadyeta
jijnasuh sreya uttamam: One should approach a bona fide guru to
inquire about the highest benefit of life. (…) If one is able to
obtain the dust of the lotus feet of such a guru, his life becomes
successful. Otherwise he is baffled both in this life and in the
next."
(Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.14.13, purport)
Not too late to accept Srila Prabhupada
"So if you are misled, if you are cheated, whose fault it is? But if
you want to be cheated, who can check? Even though somebody by mistake
has gone to a rascal, the book is there. As soon as you find out,
"Here is a rascal who does not know anything about Krsna, and I have
come to him," reject him."
(Srila Prabhupada Room Conversation, January 31st, 1977)
"Here, accepting Krsna as the spiritual master means whatever Krsna
will decide, he has to accept. One cannot deny the order of a
spiritual master. Therefore one has to select a spiritual master whose
order, carrying, you'll not commit a mistake. You see? Now, suppose if
you accept a wrong person as spiritual master, and if you, if he
guides you wrongly, then your whole life is spoiled. So one has to
accept a spiritual master whose guidance will make his life perfect.
That is the relation between spiritual master and disciple. It is not
a formality. It is a great responsibility both for the disciple and
for the spiritual master."
(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, March 2, 1966)
On Dec 25, 1:21 pm, larry freeman p <laks...@webtv.net> wrote:
> thank you,these will help,for a serious devotee,any others also very much appreciated,
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