Guys thanx for the inside know-how on TG. the fact that Gavin is giving away MTM free of charge confirms the suspicion that MTM is largely an informercial to selling tradeguider. Some also claimed that Tom doctored most of the work of Undeclared Secrets. Having seen the VSA stuff for past 3weeks, I dont think u need the software. U cant be spoonfed on pure price action. the only feeding necessary is price,volume and the spread. I will definitely get the dvd's in the next few days, and then use my ensign playback files to practice VSA in realtime, at 5 times normal speed, to train over and over again.