Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) see his Lord on the night of the Mi’raaj?
Zafar A
Question:
Did prophet Muhammad (pbuh) directly see Allah almighty,on the day he saw Heaven,Hell, etc?
if so,please send me evidance of this from the Quran Hadith.
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
Most of the Sahaabah were of the view that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not see Allaah with his eyes on the night of the Miraaj.
It was narrated that 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: "Whoever told you that Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw his Lord was lying. He said that no vision can grasp him [cf. al-An'aam 6:103]…"
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Tawheed, 6832).
It was narrated that Abu Dharr said: "I asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), 'Did you see your Lord?' He said, ' He is veiled by Light, how could I see Him.'" (Narrated by Muslim, al-Eeman, 261).
It was narrated that Ibn 'Abbaas said: " 'The (Prophet's) heart belied not what he saw, and indeed he saw Him at a second descent.' [al-Najm 53:11-12] (This means that) he saw Him twice with his heart." (Narrated by Muslim, al-Eemaan, 258).
Ibn al-Qayyim said: " 'Uthmaan ibn Sa'eed al-Daarimi said in his book al-Ru'yah that there was consensus among the Sahaabah that he [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] did not see his Lord on the night of the Mi'raaj. Some of them excluded Ibn 'Abbaas and said that he was not one of those who said that. Our Shaykh says that this does not go against the facts, for Ibn 'Abbaas did not say that he saw Him with the eyes in his head, and Ahmad relied upon this in one of the two reports narrated from him, where he says that he saw Him but he did not say that that was with the eyes in his head. The wording used by Ahmad is the same as that used by Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both). What indicates that what our Shaykh said about the meaning of the hadeeth of Abu Dharr is correct is the fact that in another hadeeth he said that His veil is Light. And Allaah knows best what the Light is that is mentioned in the hadeeth of Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) where it says, 'I saw Light.'"
Ijtimaa' al-Juyoosh al-Islamiyyah, vol. 1, p. 12
Shaykh al-Islam (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: "Chapter: with regard to seeing Allaah, what was proven in al-Saheeh from Ibn 'Abbaas is that he said: 'Muhammad saw his Lord with his heart twice, and 'Aa'ishah denied that he had seen Him. Some people reconciled these two reports by saying that 'Aa'ishah denied that he saw Him with his eyes and Ibn 'Abbaas affirmed that he saw Him with his heart. Some versions of the report narrated from Ibn 'Abbaas refers to seeing without specifying how, and others indicate that it was with the heart. Sometimes he says that Muhammad saw his Lord, and sometimes he says that Muhammad saw Him. There is no clear statement from Ibn 'Abbaas which says that he saw Him with his eyes. Similarly Imaam Ahmad sometimes says that he saw Him and sometimes says that he saw Him with his heart. No one whom Ahmad heard said that he saw Him with his eyes. But some of his companions heard some of the words that did not specify how, and understood from that that he had seen Him with his eyes, just as some people heard the words of Ibn 'Abbaas that did not specify how, and understood from that that he had seen Him with his eyes. But there is nothing in the evidence to prove that he saw Him with his eyes, and that was not narrated from any of the Sahaabah. There is nothing in the Qur'aan or Sunnah to indicate that, rather the saheeh texts which indicate that he did not see Him are more definitive. In Saheeh Muslim it is narrated that Abu Dharr said: 'I asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), "Did you see your Lord?" He said, "He is veiled with Light, how could I see Him?"' And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
'Glorified (and Exalted) be He (Allaah) [above all that (evil) they associate with Him]
Who took His slave (Muhammad) for a journey by night from Al-Masjid Al-Haraam (at Makkah) to Al-Masjid Al-Aqsaa (in Jerusalem), the neighbourhood whereof We have blessed, in order that We might show him (Muhammad) of Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, lessons, signs, etc.)'
[al-Isra' 17:1]
If he had seen Him with his own eyes, that He would have mentioned that. The same applies to the words "Will you then dispute with him (Muhammad) about what he saw [during the Mi'raaj]?" [al-Najm 53:12 – interpretation of the meaning]. If he had seen Him with his own eyes, that would have been mentioned.
It is proven from the saheeh texts and from the consensus of the salaf (first generations) of this ummah that no one can see Allaah with his eyes in this world, with the exception of the claim made by some that our Prophet Muhammad alone saw Him. But they are agreed that the believers will see Allaah on the Day of Resurrection with their own eyes just as they see the sun and the moon (in this world)."
And Allaah knows best.
Majmoo' al-Fataawa, vol. 6, p. 509-510.
Ghouri A. Qayum
See the facts:
Quran says that Kaaba was the first qibla (meaning there was no other qibla).
Masjid Aqsa was built by Marwan (Umwi Khalafat) during the year 58 Hijra.
When Jeroshaleum was conquered during the time of Omar Bin Khattab. Hazrat Omer had to visit Jeroshelum upon the request of Chief of Jeroshelum Church and when the prayer time comes in the Chief said to Hazrat to offer the prayer in the church. But Hazarat Omer replied that I do not want to do any act that the people after me will consider this church as Masjid, therefore, he offered his prayer nearby on a cliff.
This cliff is the same place where Masjid Aqsa was built.
Also in the old time Medina was also called as Masjid Aqsa because when our prophet Mohammed (PBUH) was in Makkah, Muslim in Medina were offering their prayers in Medina (mosque).
Aqsa means a place far away.
And the quranic verse about travelling of Prophet Mohamemd (PBUH) in the night refers to the travel to Medina (in the night) which proved to be the begining of the success of Prophet and the Islam as well.
When we talk about Islam we need to put our efforts to read scholars and explore the feedback........ Do not follow the existing system.....
A. Q. Ghouri
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:48:41 +0300
From: asla...@gmail.com
To: asla...@gmail.com
Subject: (islaminreality) Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) see his Lord on the night of the Mi’raaj?
salman javed
You are quite right in your context but there are some questions in my mind!!
1-why did Prophet (S.A.W) and His Companions offer their prayers while directing their position towards Misji-ud-al-Aqsa(in Jeruslam)?(not for long but they did until they were ordered to change their directions towards Kabah)
2-Whay did Prophet (S.A.W) say that you can make a journey to visit only three mosques on the face of earth and among those mosques Masjid-ul-Aqsa is also included?-
3-Was there any mosque in Madeena at the time of Miraj where Prophet S.A.W stopped and lead the prayer of the jamat of Anbiya( A.s)?
4-What about Abu Bakar(R.A) who made a bet on this shahdah which Prophet S.A.W gave that there is a caravan of Quraish coming and it was on the way from Sham(Palestine included at that time in it) towards Makkah?
5-You gave a statement that: Also in the old time Medina was also called as Masjid Aqsa because when our prophet Mohammed (PBUH) was in Makkah, Muslim in Medina were offering their prayers in Medina (mosque).
Now my question are:
a-Which mosque?
b-who built it?
c-I heard this thing for the first time that madeena(at that time know as yasrub(meaning a place full of diseases) is also known as masji-ul-aqsa!!Miraj I think took place before the first bayat that Ansars made on the hand of Prophet S.A.W so who were those Muslims in Madeena who were offering prayer in Masjid-ul-Aqsa of Madeena?I need some solid reference about this thing/statement?
d-Arabic is a unique language where you may not bound a word to one meaning? I think we should have a research on this word "Aqsa" more deeply!!!!
we really need to read scholars and to put our efforts for exploring Islam in its real manners. But should we leave the basics of knowledge??.
There are two different models in the world:
Scientific Model: where new inventions are far much better then the prevoius one
Sharia Model: Where you will deviate from your real path if you will make any new invention in it.(In ahkams and Aqaids/basics of Islam).
So, should we run Sharia model according to Scientific Model???? or should we stick to what Islam has told us through divine revelations????
We should not follow the scholars and so called intellects blindly but we should really put our efforts to explore what is really true!!
May Allah SWT gives us Hidya and Wisdom to Understand Islam in its real context.(Ameen)
JazakaAllah Khair
Javed Kaleem
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Javed Iqbal Kaleem
On Oct 31, 1:44 pm, "salman javed" <salmanisonl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brother!!
>
> You are quite right in your context but there are some questions in my
> mind!!
>
> 1-why did Prophet (S.A.W) and His Companions offer their prayers while
> directing their position towards Misji-ud-al-Aqsa(in Jeruslam)?(not for long
> but they did until they were ordered to change their directions towards
> Kabah)
>
> 2-Whay did Prophet (S.A.W) say that you can make a journey to visit only
> three mosques on the face of earth and among those mosques Masjid-ul-Aqsa is
> also included?-
>
> 3-Was there any mosque in Madeena at the time of Miraj where Prophet
> S.A.Wstopped and lead the prayer of the jamat of Anbiya(
> A.s)?
>
> 4-What about Abu Bakar(R.A) who made a bet on this shahdah which Prophet
> S.A.W gave that there is a caravan of Quraish coming and it was on the
> way from Sham(Palestine included at that time in it) towards Makkah?
>
> 5-You gave a statement that: *Also in the old time Medina was also called as
> Masjid Aqsa because when our prophet Mohammed (PBUH) was in Makkah, Muslim
> in Medina were offering their prayers in Medina (mosque).*
>
> Now my question are:
>
> a-Which mosque?
>
> b-who built it?
>
> c-I heard this thing for the first time that madeena(at that time know as
> yasrub(meaning a place full of diseases) is also known as
> masji-ul-aqsa!!Miraj I think took place before the first bayat that Ansars
> made on the hand of Prophet S.A.W so who were those Muslims in Madeena who
> were offering prayer in *Masjid-ul-Aqsa of Madeena*?I need some solid
> reference about this thing/statement?
>
> d-Arabic is a unique language where you may not bound a word to one
> meaning? I think we should have a research on this word "Aqsa" more
> deeply!!!!
>
> we really need to read scholars and to put our efforts for exploring Islam
> in its real manners. But should we leave the basics of knowledge??.
>
> There are two different models in the world:
>
> Scientific Model: where new inventions are far much better then the prevoius
> one
>
> Sharia Model: Where you will deviate from your real path if you will make
> any new invention in it.(In ahkams and Aqaids/basics of Islam).
>
> So, should we run Sharia model according to Scientific Model???? or should
> we stick to what Islam has told us through divine revelations????
>
> We should not follow the scholars and so called intellects blindly but
> we should really put our efforts to explore what is really true!!
>
> May Allah SWT gives us Hidya and Wisdom to Understand Islam in its real
> context.(Ameen)
>
> JazakaAllah Khair
>
> On 10/31/07, Ghouri A. Qayum <gaqa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Gentlemen,
>
> > See the facts:
>
> > Quran says that Kaaba was the first qibla (meaning there was no other
> > qibla).
>
> > Masjid Aqsa was built by Marwan (Umwi Khalafat) during the year 58 Hijra.
>
> > When Jeroshaleum was conquered during the time of Omar Bin Khattab.
> > Hazrat Omer had to visit Jeroshelum upon the request of Chief of Jeroshelum
> > Church and when the prayer time comes in the Chief said to Hazrat to offer
> > the prayer in the church. But Hazarat Omer replied that I do not want to do
> > any act that the people after me will consider this church as Masjid,
> > therefore, he offered his prayer nearby on a cliff.
>
> > This cliff is the same place where Masjid Aqsa was built.
>
> > Also in the old time Medina was also called as Masjid Aqsa because when
> > our prophet Mohammed (PBUH) was in Makkah, Muslim in Medina were offering
> > their prayers in Medina (mosque).
>
> > Aqsa means a place far away.
>
> > And the quranic verse about travelling of Prophet Mohamemd (PBUH) in the
> > night refers to the travel to Medina (in the night) which proved to be the
> > begining of the success of Prophet and the Islam as well.
>
> > When we talk about Islam we need to put our efforts to read scholars and
> > explore the feedback........ Do not follow the existing system.....
>
> > Thanks and best regards!
>
> > A. Q. Ghouri
>
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:48:41 +0300
> > From: aslam....@gmail.com
> > To: aslam....@gmail.com
> > Subject: (islaminreality) Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah
> > be upon him) see his Lord on the night of the Mi'raaj?
>
> > Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) see his Lord
> > on the night of the Mi'raaj?
>
> > Question:
> > Did prophet Muhammad (pbuh) directly see Allah almighty,on the day he saw
> > Heaven,Hell, etc?
> > if so,please send me evidance of this from the Quran Hadith.
>
> > Answer:
> > Praise be to Allaah.
>
> > Most of the Sahaabah were of the view that the Prophet (peace and
> > blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not see Allaah with his eyes on the
> > night of the Miraaj.
>
> > It was narrated that 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said:
> > "Whoever told you that Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)
> > saw his Lord was lying. He said that no vision can grasp him [cf. al-An'aam
> > 6:103]..."
>
> > (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, *al-Tawheed*, 6832).
>
> > It was narrated that Abu Dharr said: "I asked the Messenger of Allaah
> > (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), 'Did you see your Lord?' He
> > said, ' He is veiled by Light, how could I see Him.'" (Narrated by Muslim,
> > *al-Eeman*, 261).
>
> > It was narrated that Ibn 'Abbaas said: " 'The (Prophet's) heart belied not
> > what he saw, and indeed he saw Him at a second descent.' [al-Najm 53:11-12]
> > (This means that) he saw Him twice with his heart." (Narrated by Muslim, *
> > al-Eemaan*, 258).
>
> > Ibn al-Qayyim said: " 'Uthmaan ibn Sa'eed al-Daarimi said in his book *
> > al-Ru'yah* that there was consensus among the Sahaabah that he [the
> > Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] did not see his Lord on
> > the night of the Mi'raaj. Some of them excluded Ibn 'Abbaas and said that he
> > was not one of those who said that. Our Shaykh says that this does not go
> > against the facts, for Ibn 'Abbaas did not say that he saw Him with the eyes
> > in his head, and Ahmad relied upon this in one of the two reports narrated
> > from him, where he says that he saw Him but he did not say that that was
> > with the eyes in his head. The wording used by Ahmad is the same as that
> > used by Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both). What indicates
> > that what our Shaykh said about the meaning of the hadeeth of Abu Dharr is
> > correct is the fact that in another hadeeth he said that His veil is Light.
> > And Allaah knows best what the Light is that is mentioned in the hadeeth of
> > Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) where it says, 'I saw Light.'"
>
> > *Ijtimaa' al-Juyoosh al-Islamiyyah*, vol. 1, p. 12
>
> > Shaykh al-Islam (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: "Chapter: with regard
> > to seeing Allaah, what was proven in *al-Saheeh *from Ibn 'Abbaas is that
> > he said: 'Muhammad saw his Lord with his heart twice, and 'Aa'ishah denied
> > that he had seen Him. Some people reconciled these two reports by saying
> > that 'Aa'ishah denied that he saw Him with his eyes and Ibn 'Abbaas affirmed
> > that he saw Him with his heart. Some versions of the report narrated from
> > Ibn 'Abbaas refers to seeing without specifying how, and others indicate
> > that it was with the heart. Sometimes he says that Muhammad saw his Lord,
> > and sometimes he says that Muhammad saw Him. There is no clear statement
> > from Ibn 'Abbaas which says that he saw Him with his eyes. Similarly Imaam
> > Ahmad sometimes says that he saw Him and sometimes says that he saw Him with
> > his heart. No one whom Ahmad heard said that he saw Him with his eyes. But
> > some of his companions heard some of the words that did not specify how, and
> > understood from that that he had seen Him with his eyes, just as some people
> > heard the words of Ibn 'Abbaas that did not specify how, and understood from
> > that that he had seen Him with his eyes. But there is nothing in the
> > evidence to prove that he saw Him with his eyes, and that was not narrated
> > from any of the Sahaabah. There is nothing in the Qur'aan or Sunnah to
> > indicate that, rather the saheeh texts which indicate that he did not see
> > Him are more definitive. In *Saheeh Muslim* it is narrated that Abu Dharr
> > said: 'I asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be
> > upon him), "Did you see your Lord?" He said, "He is veiled with Light, how
> > could I see Him?"' And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
>
> > *'Glorified (and Exalted) be He (Allaah) [above all that (evil) they
> > associate with Him] *
>
> > *Who took His slave (Muhammad) for a journey by night from Al-Masjid
> > Al-Haraam (at Makkah) to Al-Masjid Al-Aqsaa (in Jerusalem), the
> > neighbourhood whereof We have blessed, in order that We might show him
> > (Muhammad) of Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, lessons, signs, etc.)' *
>
> > *[al-Isra' 17:1]*
>
> > If he had seen Him with his own eyes, that He would have mentioned that.
> > The same applies to the words *"Will you then dispute with him (Muhammad)
> > about what he saw [during the Mi'raaj]?" [al-Najm 53:12 - interpretation of
> > the meaning]. *If he had seen Him with his own eyes, that would have been
> > mentioned.
>
> > It is proven from the saheeh texts and from the consensus of the salaf
> > (first generations) of this ummah that no one can see Allaah with his eyes
> > in this world, with the exception of the claim made by some that our Prophet
> > Muhammad alone saw Him. But they are agreed that the believers will see
> > Allaah on the Day of Resurrection with their own eyes just as they see the
> > sun and the moon (in this world)."
>
> > And Allaah knows best.
>
> > Majmoo' al-Fataawa, vol. 6, p. 509-510.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Dawood Khan
Salman bhai knows the answers, he is just asking questions
in a manner so that the unacceptable queries raised by Ghori sb
get answered...
Rest please put some light on the book for the readers of the forum
who can't go to urdu bazar in order to buy the book.
Wasalam
Dawood
Ghouri A. Qayum
Assalamu Alaikum,
I am so pleased to read all your messages that all the participants are wellmatured and well behaved.
Islam teaches us to be polite and soft when we communite with eac other.
And we should not be selfish in regard to learning.
We must be aware that since the birth of Islam the enemies (the strong class of people) as it is now. We should not ignore that all the top people who are ruling they do not fight with each other but we are prompted to grab each other.
Islam had been the very focus of the ruling class as it was giving freedom and rights to the oridinary people.
Also, we must remember that Capitalism never allows the poor people to join their class. rather they want the poor to be poorest. whereas Islam was revealed to uplift our social status and bring us dark to the light.
Therefore, we must explore new avenue to understand Islam. There is no harm to listen and read whatever is available. But we must be positive and cooperative and NOT AGGRESSIVE as Anger kills Wisdom.
I must suggest you to listen the following scholar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEaR0xc3IOk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghulam_Ahmed_Pervez
http://www.parvez-video.com/
If you download and listen to this scholar you will be surprised that where we stand?
if this man was alive especially nowadays, you will not find any other scholar on the TV because the level of knowledge he possessed the present scholars are far behind.
May Allah bless us with HIS KIND GUIDANCE and keep away from the enemies of Islam whether they are amongst our rows.
A. Q. Ghouri
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> To: islamin...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: (islaminreality) Re: Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) see his Lord on the
salman javed
Waliekum'Salam!
Brother!
I know Mr.Pervaiz probably for ages. I also heard and read his literature. From "Talaoo-e-Islam" to different lectures and booklets and I'm now not amazed if you have raised such questions in your first mail that has either no existence or have no solid background(no offences :) ).
Kindly go through the following link and there you'll find a book "Aiena-e-Pervaiziat", which was written by a renowned scholar " Prof.Abdul Rehamn Kailani" in the life of Perviaz sb, and after reading this book many come back to what is originally described by Islam Alhamdolilah.
http://www.jamatuddawa.org/data1/pages/booksahadees.htm
.
I request you to kindly download and do read it. Its a gift for all the brothers.
Secondly my questions are still not answered :). I hope you won't mind answering them with some solid back grounding and Proofs
JazakaAllah khair.
Wasalam
Salman Javed
Dawood Khan
Ghouri sb..I am well aware the road you are taking this discussion to..
Let me be very upfront: what is the motive behind this discussion?
> I am so pleased to read all your messages that all the participants are
> wellmatured and well behaved.
flattery is the food of fools...
Please answer following:
> And we should not be selfish in regard to learning.
Learning what? (Alhamdulilah we do study "Quran" and "HADEETH")
and apply that on our daily life..as far as we can...
There is a reason behind putting word "HADEETH" in all caps..and you know why.
> Islam had been the very focus of the ruling class as it was giving freedom
> and rights to the oridinary people.
Please define ruling class ( Do you mean enemies of Islam ,e.g
christians, Jews etc)
> We must be aware that since the birth of Islam the enemies (the strong
> class of people) as it is now.
Please don't play with words and directly identify them..
> We should not ignore that all the top people who are ruling they do not fight with each
> other but we are prompted to grab each other..
I don't buy the idea that people who are ruling are wrong..
It is not the people, that this wrong depends on..It depends on the "LAW"
not the people...You may replace all top cadre and keep same old laws,
but that will
not bring any change...Unless you change the LAW..and that law is nothing but
the LAWS of ALLAH and HIS Prophet(S.A.W)...
> Also, we must remember that Capitalism never allows the poor people to join
> their class. rather they want the poor to be poorest. whereas Islam was
> revealed to uplift our social status and bring us dark to the light.
Though I agree with the gist of above few lines..but again you have
mis-understood
capitalism. If poor becomes poorer who'll buy the products of the capitalists?
> Therefore, we must explore new avenue to understand Islam.
I am not interested in understand Islam according to so called
new avenue....I want to understand it ( and be understood) in a manner
it was understood by the followers(Sahaba R.A) of Prophet (S.A.W).
> There is no harm to listen and read whatever is available.
Agreed, only for those knowledgeable men who can differentiate between
right and wrong.
> But we must be positive and cooperative and NOT AGGRESSIVE as Anger kills Wisdom.
Did prophet S.A.W ever become angry? YES he did..His face used become
red with anger...
As far as cooperative is concerned, not till I or other realize and
believe that you are on right side..
> I must suggest you to listen the following scholar:
Scholars of what? physics or chemistry ? As far as I am
concerned I ain't got to do anything with them...
for there deviation from the sources(Quran and hadeeth)
of knowledge and the manner and method these sources
were understood by the followers(Sahaba R.A) of Muhammad (S.A.W)
> If you download and listen to this scholar you will be surprised that where
> we stand?
"We " ? hahahah!!! you must be of sarcastic lot...
> May Allah bless us with HIS KIND GUIDANCE and keep away from the enemies of
> Islam whether they are amongst our rows.
Ameen...
Wasalamu-Alikum
Dawood
And Allah knows best..
syed Ahmed
Dear brother Ghouri Saheb
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Thanks for your email.
I read the contents and I feel that you are very sincere with Islam and your language is polite.
Jazakallah.
Remember, that it is our duty to learn more about our Deen to our best efforts. And if somebody suggest us for knwledge and wisdom, we must listen and analyse it and discuss with our seniors about the truthfulness and incorrectness of the facts.
I never met Mr. Ghulam Ahmer Pervez (Quranic Scholar) but I had a chance to listen him after his death.
and if you have a chance to listen him try to listen his speech about Meraj Ka Waqia.
Maybe you will not agree with him but you will have a guideline to explore the facts.
A. Q. Ghouri
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:14:10 -0800
Subject: [AhleSunnah] Re: (islaminreality) Re: Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) see his Lord on the
Dear brother Ghouri SahebAssalamua'laikum,I am trying to get exact and accurate knowledge from this letter that you wrote.1. Your first sentence is correct that Ka'ba is the first qibla constructed by Hazrat Aadam a'la nabiyyina wa a'layhissalatu wassalam.2. I am highly doubtful of your second sentence that Masjid Al aqsa was built in 58 Hijra by Marwan Ibn Hakam, the Umawi Khalifah, for, Quran wehemently denies it.The very first verse that opens 15th chapter of Quran confirms that Masjid-al-Aqsa was there before the commencement of Hijra Calendar.SUBHAN AL LADHI ASRA BIA'BDIHI LYLAN MIN AL MASJID AL HARAMI ILA AL MASJID AL AQSA--------- Pak hai woh zaat jiss ne syr karai apne bande (Huzoor Sallallaho A'laihi wa sallam) ko raat main Masjid-e-Haram (ka'ba) to Masjid Al Aqsa tak ke jiss ke mahoul ko hum ne barakat di, taa ke dekhayen hum apni nishaniyan------ila aakhirihi.Lihaza yeh iss aayate-Kareemah se wazih hota hai ke 58 saal se pehle wahan Masjid Al Aqsa thi jahan Allah Huzoor kole gaya raton raat.Ab agar kaha jaye ke Masjid Al Aqsa Madeenah Shareef main thi toh iss ke subooth ke liye authentic reference chahiyye aor iss baath ka bhi reference chahiyye ke aysi Madeenah wali masjid ke mahoulko Allah Subhanahu ne barkat di (aor kiss baath se di?)Agar aap poochhen ke ay Allah tu ne jis Masjid-e-Aqsa ko iss syr ki manzil qarar de raha hai use kis baath se barakat di toh iss ka jawab tafaseer mainmilega, lekinyeh tafaseer iss masjid ke Madeenah Shareef main hone ki tasdeeq naheen karengi, balke ahadees shareefah iss baathki zaroor tasdeeq karengi ke yeh Masjid Al Aqsa Yaroshelam ke aas paas hai ke kuffaran-e-Quresh ne uske darwaze tak Huzoor ko ginane ke liye kaha thha.Aor jo qaafle wahan se aa rahe thhe Huzoor ne unki bhi khabar di thi jise Makke pahonchne main kayi hafte lage----jinko Madeene se aane main utne din naheen lag sakte.Phir huzoor Sallallaho A'laihi wa sallam ne dauran-e-safar Hazrat Moosa A'la Nabiyyina Wa A'laihissalatu Wassalam ko apni qabar se bahir ya andar namaz parhte dekha thha, toh yeh sabit karna hoga ke unki qabar shareef Makke aor Madeene ke darmiyan hai.Teesre Para ke end main jo likhkha hai uske bare main riwayat main yahi aata haike Hazrat Umar RadhiAllaho A'nhu ne woh namaz church ke bahir parhi nake nearby cliff par.This cliff is the same where Gunbad-e-Sakhra was built and not Masjid Al Aqsa. Please consult the books that the two are not one and the same----and hence the confusion.I would invite my muslim brothers to search for a riwayat according to which ( because I am unable to call frommy memory) it was Hazrat Ibrahim A'la Nabiyyina Wa A'laihissalatu wassalam built Masjid Al Aqsa at Bait Al Maqdas some years after he rebuilt Ka'ba.It will be recalled that the old name of Madeenah was Yasrib and it was never called Masjid Al Aqsa. If somebody insists then the burden of proof is on himself. And there is no proof whatsoever that the believers had built any masjid in Madeenah before Huzoor Sallallaho A'laihi wa Sallam migrated there.That meaning of Aqsa may be true, but that is not the point.It is highly doubtful that Nabis' journey was towards Madeenah Shareef, as it is contrary to the verbatimof the aayah quoted above.I am at a loss to understand what do youmean not to follow the present system and to follow scholars, which scholars?Syed Ahmed Razavi Qadri.
"Ghouri A. Qayum" <gaqayum@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gentlemen,
See the facts:
Quran says that Kaaba was the first qibla (meaning there was no other qibla).
Masjid Aqsa was built by Marwan (Umwi Khalafat) during the year 58 Hijra.
When Jeroshaleum was conquered during the time of Omar Bin Khattab. Hazrat Omer had to visit Jeroshelum upon the request of Chief of Jeroshelum Church and when the prayer time comes in the Chief said to Hazrat to offer the prayer in the church. But Hazarat Omer replied that I do not want to do any act that the people after me will consider this church as Masjid, therefore, he offered his prayer nearby on a cliff.
This cliff is the same place where Masjid Aqsa was built.
Also in the old time Medina was also called as Masjid Aqsa because when our prophet Mohammed (PBUH) was in Makkah, Muslim in Medina were offering their prayers in Medina (mosque).
Aqsa means a place far away.
And the quranic verse about travelling of Prophet Mohamemd (PBUH) in the night refers to the travel to Medina (in the night) which proved to be the begining of the success of Prophet and the Islam as well.
When we talk about Islam we need to put our efforts to read scholars and explore the feedback........ Do not follow the existing system.....
Thanks and best regards!
A. Q. Ghouri
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:48:41 +0300
From: aslam.bih@gmail.com
To: aslam.bih@gmail.com
Subject: (islaminreality) Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) see his Lord on the night of the Mi’raaj?
Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) see his Lord on the night of the Mi'raaj?
Question:
Did prophet Muhammad (pbuh) directly see Allah almighty,on the day he saw Heaven,Hell, etc?
if so,please send me evidance of this from the Quran Hadith.
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
Most of the Sahaabah were of the view that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not see Allaah with his eyes on the night of the Miraaj.It was narrated that 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: "Whoever told you that Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw his Lord was lying. He said that no vision can grasp him [cf. al-An'aam 6:103]…"(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Tawheed, 6832).It was narrated that Abu Dharr said: "I asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), 'Did you see your Lord?' He said, ' He is veiled by Light, how could I see Him.'" (Narrated by Muslim, al-Eeman, 261).It was narrated that Ibn 'Abbaas said: " 'The (Prophet's) heart belied not what he saw, and indeed he saw Him at a second descent.' [al-Najm 53:11-12] (This means that) he saw Him twice with his heart." (Narrated by Muslim, al-Eemaan, 258).Ibn al-Qayyim said: " 'Uthmaan ibn Sa'eed al-Daarimi said in his book al-Ru'yah that there was consensus among the Sahaabah that he [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] did not see his Lord on the night of the Mi'raaj. Some of them excluded Ibn 'Abbaas and said that he was not one of those who said that. Our Shaykh says that this does not go against the facts, for Ibn 'Abbaas did not say that he saw Him with the eyes in his head, and Ahmad relied upon this in one of the two reports narrated from him, where he says that he saw Him but he did not say that that was with the eyes in his head. The wording used by Ahmad is the same as that used by Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both). What indicates that what our Shaykh said about the meaning of the hadeeth of Abu Dharr is correct is the fact that in another hadeeth he said that His veil is Light. And Allaah knows best what the Light is that is mentioned in the hadeeth of Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) where it says, 'I saw Light.'"Ijtimaa' al-Juyoosh al-Islamiyyah, vol. 1, p. 12Shaykh al-Islam (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: "Chapter: with regard to seeing Allaah, what was proven in al-Saheeh from Ibn 'Abbaas is that he said: 'Muhammad saw his Lord with his heart twice, and 'Aa'ishah denied that he had seen Him. Some people reconciled these two reports by saying that 'Aa'ishah denied that he saw Him with his eyes and Ibn 'Abbaas affirmed that he saw Him with his heart. Some versions of the report narrated from Ibn 'Abbaas refers to seeing without specifying how, and others indicate that it was with the heart. Sometimes he says that Muhammad saw his Lord, and sometimes he says that Muhammad saw Him. There is no clear statement from Ibn 'Abbaas which says that he saw Him with his eyes. Similarly Imaam Ahmad sometimes says that he saw Him and sometimes says that he saw Him with his heart. No one whom Ahmad heard said that he saw Him with his eyes. But some of his companions heard some of the words that did not specify how, and understood from that that he had seen Him with his eyes, just as some people heard the words of Ibn 'Abbaas that did not specify how, and understood from that that he had seen Him with his eyes. But there is nothing in the evidence to prove that he saw Him with his eyes, and that was not narrated from any of the Sahaabah. There is nothing in the Qur'aan or Sunnah to indicate that, rather the saheeh texts which indicate that he did not see Him are more definitive. In Saheeh Muslim it is narrated that Abu Dharr said: 'I asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), "Did you see your Lord?" He said, "He is veiled with Light, how could I see Him?"' And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):'Glorified (and Exalted) be He (Allaah) [above all that (evil) they associate with Him]Who took His slave (Muhammad) for a journey by night from Al-Masjid Al-Haraam (at Makkah) to Al-Masjid Al-Aqsaa (in Jerusalem), the neighbourhood whereof We have blessed, in order that We might show him (Muhammad) of Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, lessons, signs, etc.)'[al-Isra' 17:1]If he had seen Him with his own eyes, that He would have mentioned that. The same applies to the words "Will you then dispute with him (Muhammad) about what he saw [during the Mi'raaj]?" [al-Najm 53:12 – interpretation of the meaning]. If he had seen Him with his own eyes, that would have been mentioned.It is proven from the saheeh texts and from the consensus of the salaf (first generations) of this ummah that no one can see Allaah with his eyes in this world, with the exception of the claim made by some that our Prophet Muhammad alone saw Him. But they are agreed that the believers will see Allaah on the Day of Resurrection with their own eyes just as they see the sun and the moon (in this world)."And Allaah knows best.
Majmoo' al-Fataawa, vol. 6, p. 509-510.
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"Ghouri A. Qayum" <gaq...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gentlemen,
See the facts:
Quran says that Kaaba was the first qibla (meaning there was no other qibla).
Masjid Aqsa was built by Marwan (Umwi Khalafat) during the year 58 Hijra.
When Jeroshaleum was conquered during the time of Omar Bin Khattab. Hazrat Omer had to visit Jeroshelum upon the request of Chief of Jeroshelum Church and when the prayer time comes in the Chief said to Hazrat to offer the prayer in the church. But Hazarat Omer replied that I do not want to do any act that the people after me will consider this church as Masjid, therefore, he offered his prayer nearby on a cliff.
This cliff is the same place where Masjid Aqsa was built.
Also in the old time Medina was also called as Masjid Aqsa because when our prophet Mohammed (PBUH) was in Makkah, Muslim in Medina were offering their prayers in Medina (mosque).
Aqsa means a place far away.
And the quranic verse about travelling of Prophet Mohamemd (PBUH) in the night refers to the travel to Medina (in the night) which proved to be the begining of the success of Prophet and the Islam as well.
When we talk about Islam we need to put our efforts to read scholars and explore the feedback........ Do not follow the existing system.....
Thanks and best regards!
A. Q. Ghouri
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:48:41 +0300
From: asla...@gmail.com
To: asla...@gmail.com
Subject: (islaminreality) Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) see his Lord on the night of the Mi'raaj?
Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) see his Lord on the night of the Mi'raaj?
Question:
Did prophet Muhammad (pbuh) directly see Allah almighty,on the day he saw Heaven,Hell, etc?
if so,please send me evidance of this from the Quran Hadith.
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
Most of the Sahaabah were of the view that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not see Allaah with his eyes on the night of the Miraaj.It was narrated that 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: "Whoever told you that Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw his Lord was lying. He said that no vision can grasp him [cf. al-An'aam 6:103]…"(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Tawheed, 6832).It was narrated that Abu Dharr said: "I asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), 'Did you see your Lord?' He said, ' He is veiled by Light, how could I see Him.'" (Narrated by Muslim, al-Eeman, 261).It was narrated that Ibn 'Abbaas said: " 'The (Prophet's) heart belied not what he saw, and indeed he saw Him at a second descent.' [al-Najm 53:11-12] (This means that) he saw Him twice with his heart." (Narrated by Muslim, al-Eemaan, 258).Ibn al-Qayyim said: " 'Uthmaan ibn Sa'eed al-Daarimi said in his book al-Ru'yah that there was consensus among the Sahaabah that he [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] did not see his Lord on the night of the Mi'raaj. Some of them excluded Ibn 'Abbaas and said that he was not one of those who said that. Our Shaykh says that this does not go against the facts, for Ibn 'Abbaas did not say that he saw Him with the eyes in his head, and Ahmad relied upon this in one of the two reports narrated from him, where he says that he saw Him but he did not say that that was with the eyes in his head. The wording used by Ahmad is the same as that used by Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both). What indicates that what our Shaykh said about the meaning of the hadeeth of Abu Dharr is correct is the fact that in another hadeeth he said that His veil is Light. And Allaah knows best what the Light is that is mentioned in the hadeeth of Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) where it says, 'I saw Light.'"Ijtimaa' al-Juyoosh al-Islamiyyah, vol. 1, p. 12Shaykh al-Islam (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: "Chapter: with regard to seeing Allaah, what was proven in al-Saheeh from Ibn 'Abbaas is that he said: 'Muhammad saw his Lord with his heart twice, and 'Aa'ishah denied that he had seen Him. Some people reconciled these two reports by saying that 'Aa'ishah denied that he saw Him with his eyes and Ibn 'Abbaas affirmed that he saw Him with his heart. Some versions of the report narrated from Ibn 'Abbaas refers to seeing without specifying how, and others indicate that it was with the heart. Sometimes he says that Muhammad saw his Lord, and sometimes he says that Muhammad saw Him. There is no clear statement from Ibn 'Abbaas which says that he saw Him with his eyes. Similarly Imaam Ahmad sometimes says that he saw Him and sometimes says that he saw Him with his heart. No one whom Ahmad heard said that he saw Him with his eyes. But some of his companions heard some of the words that did not specify how, and understood from that that he had seen Him with his eyes, just as some people heard the words of Ibn 'Abbaas that did not specify how, and understood from that that he had seen Him with his eyes. But there is nothing in the evidence to prove that he saw Him with his eyes, and that was not narrated from any of the Sahaabah. There is nothing in the Qur'aan or Sunnah to indicate that, rather the saheeh texts which indicate that he did not see Him are more definitive. In Saheeh Muslim it is narrated that Abu Dharr said: 'I asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), "Did you see your Lord?" He said, "He is veiled with Light, how could I see Him?"' And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):'Glorified (and Exalted) be He (Allaah) [above all that (evil) they associate with Him]Who took His slave (Muhammad) for a journey by night from Al-Masjid Al-Haraam (at Makkah) to Al-Masjid Al-Aqsaa (in Jerusalem), the neighbourhood whereof We have blessed, in order that We might show him (Muhammad) of Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, lessons, signs, etc.)'[al-Isra' 17:1]If he had seen Him with his own eyes, that He would have mentioned that. The same applies to the words "Will you then dispute with him (Muhammad) about what he saw [during the Mi'raaj]?" [al-Najm 53:12 – interpretation of the meaning]. If he had seen Him with his own eyes, that would have been mentioned.It is proven from the saheeh texts and from the consensus of the salaf (first generations) of this ummah that no one can see Allaah with his eyes in this world, with the exception of the claim made by some that our Prophet Muhammad alone saw Him. But they are agreed that the believers will see Allaah on the Day of Resurrection with their own eyes just as they see the sun and the moon (in this world)."And Allaah knows best.
Majmoo' al-Fataawa, vol. 6, p. 509-510.
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