He is then seen racing down the ramp between West 40th and West 41st Streets at 9th Avenue but without an aerial camera or high vantage point it was pretty difficult to do the screenshot below justice.
The training facility of SRD is at 415 East 71st Street which Landy gives to Bourne via coded message. However, this address will not lead you to the place seen in the movie on 68 mins as it was actually filmed outside 60 Lafayette Street with the now-defunct Family Court Building used as the secret Treadstone training place.
This is phenomenal and I cannot wait to visit these places on my first trip to NYC coming up! Thank you so much for this!!
One scene that crossed my mind, Vossen and co being led to a park, then fleeing from there back to the office. Perhaps that was filmed in Berlin?
Thanks again for helping fulfill a mega dream of mine in visiting these locations!
Hey there K2! Thanks for your comment and sorry for late reply but I`ve been off this site for a few days whilst away. Really hope you manage to see all the locations you want to see in NYC. Enjoy. I`ve not seen the bourne films for a few years now so I`m afraid I cant remember that scene you talk about. Kind regards and have a great time
This weekend, I went to see the Bourne Ultimatum... twice. This movie was a lot of fun. I haven't seen the first two in a quite a while, so my memory is a bit fuzzy, but I would have to say that the first half of this movie represents the best Jason Bourne action to date. It really sucks you right in from the very beginning and holds your attention the entire way through. Even on the second go-round, I was surprised how much I actually enjoyed the movie despite knowing everything that was going to happen.
The second half of the movie, while a bit less engaging, concentrates more on the story line, Bourne's internal battle, and the conflict that exists within the CIA itself. The first time I saw the movie, I felt that the second half was a bit of let down, especially after having been so jazzed up by the first half. However, during my second screening, I actually found the second have to be quite good - better than I had remembered, even.
One thing that I wasn't expecting was for Nicky Parsons' character (played by Julia Stiles) to show up again. And, not only was I not expecting her presence, I certainly would not have expected her to have such a big role in the movie. I am not sure that she is even in the coming attractions at all? As an actress, she has really started to disappoint me. I first fell in love with her in the movie 10 Things I Hate About You (a modern remake of The Taming of the Shrew), in which she played a bubbly yet defiant teen who doesn't care what any one else thinks or says about her. In that movie, she is purely delicious with her quirky smile, expressive eyes, hottie physique, and a real youthful energy. With every passing movie, however, the magic seems to wear off more and more, and now, in The Bourne Ultimatum, the acting that I once found so fun and lively seems now, so stiff and flat. I felt her whole performance was just, well, unhappy, like she didn't want to be there or really get into the role.
Furthermore, I think that the movie makers did a poor job of exploring Bourne's and Parsons' relationship, both past and present. There seemed to be this uncomfortable, underlying connection between the two, but nothing was ever spelled out. At one point, they are both in a coffee shop and Bourne asks her why she is helping him, to which she says something like "It was very hard for me, with you". What does that mean? Does that mean she had a crush on him? Does that mean they were together before he lost his memories? Was she jealous of the previous female lead? After a long, awkward pause, she then says, "You really don't remember?" Was she just trying to move the conversation along or was she referring to something they had together once?
It was all very unclear. Had Stiles' acting been a bit more emotional, I might have been able to pick up more of the story without it being spelled out, but they just had no chemistry together. Later on in the movie, Nicky dies her hair black to help blend in. As it was happening, I thought they were gonna tie this back into the time when former love interest, Marie Kreutz (played by Franka Potente), did the same thing; this at least would have triggered some sort of emotion in Bourne, but alas, nothing came of it.
The whole Jason Bourne-Nicky Parsons sub-plot as an aside, this movie is a rockin' good time. Matt Damon is just fun to watch and his level of badassery is kicked up for this film. I'm giving it two thumbs up. Go see it in the theater on the big screen.
He's not James Bond trying to stop some crime from occurring. He's just a super spy trying to figure out who he is and what was done to him. So while the Nicky Parsons / Jason Bourne relationship was not satisfying, it does set up another area to explore if they decide to make more sequels.
I think part of the reason people enjoy the character is that he's a good guy who knows exactly the same about himself as the audience does. That keeps him interesting. Once we know everything about bourne, then where do you go from there storywise?
I know this is a bit of a clich, but READ THE BOOKS. Or listen to them on Ipod, assuming you can get one that isn't so heavily edited for time that you miss a lot. That's what I ended up with when I got the Wheel of Time books on tape. (Yes- TAPE!!)
The book "The Bourne Identity" was so much better than the movie, I can't even keep a straight face claiming that the movie was based on the book. Haven't seen the other two, and after the first, I've got no real desire to.
Which is too bad- I like Matt Damon. I even liked the moved "Bourne Identity". It was different enough from the book, and was missing so much from the book, that it really was like they were two different stories.
I think you make a great point - that Bourne knows just as much about himself as we do. I never thought about that, but that is certainly dead on the money. And, I think it makes for a much more engaging story as you really feel like you are part of the discovery process.
It's funny you say that because just 20 minutes ago, I was having a conversation with my boss and he was saying that books are so different from the movies and that if you read the books, seeing the movies is not a problem cause you don't really feel like the story gets ruined.
I will see if I can find them on the iPod. There's more than three books right? Hopefully that will mean more sequels; I know you are not crazy about the movies, but I would certainly go see the next one. So far, 1 and 3 are the best. Not sure I even remember how 2 went.
Now that I think about it, if Julia Stiles is playing the character I think she is, it's surprising that the movie left their relationship ambiguous. The books most certainly did not. In fact, the whole tone of The Bourne Supremacy would have been far different without her and their relationship.
I definitely want to go back and at least watch movies 1 and 2, just to freshen up the ideas. But certainly, I think their relationship (Damon / Stiles) was quite ambiguous in both the second and third movie. I certainly didn't pick up on anything in movie 2... but then again, I'm just a caveman that was frozen in ice and then thawed out by your scientists.
I just finished watching the movie and I loved it, the only thing that got me was the relationship between Julia Stiles and Matt Damon. So, I looked it up and I found an article oh Julia interviewed bout this movie... hope this helps a little to you all.
What Nicky has witnessed in the second one, actually throughout the whole series, has made her question how corrupt this operation has become. I think she realized in the second one that she was expendable and that she was just sort of a pawn and it made her want to get out. What's interesting for me about the relationship between Nicky and Jason is that she was around before he became Jason Bourne. She saw what the training did to him, and she sympathizes with this agony that he has over what he's done in his past. So, yeah, she gets emotionally involved, but she almost can't help it, like Jason Bourne can't help it and Pamela Landy can't help it.
OK, everyone missed some clues about Nicky and Jason. I just saw the film again. (I watched the first two about ten times each). When Jason confronts the mad scientist/ behaviorist on the tenth floor on E 71st Sreet he has more flashbacks with Neil and mad scentist in the hall and way down the hall is Nicky. It flashes so fast but they show it a second time. i missed it completely the first time I saw the movie. It was brilliant, and answered part of that sub plot.
And, I noticed more the second viewing, how much chemistry was really going on between Jason and Nicky. It was not happy and no one smiled once. It was brilliant acting by both. It did not play any off the real plot and thrust of all this world wide action. I think that if they end up somewhere else, they were going to sizzle.
Yeah, that was very near the end, the last two flashbacks. Nicky was way down the hall, almost a different plane, that's why you almost don't see her, because the focus of the scene is in the foreground, with Neil and the mastermind behaviorist that changes him into Jason. They flash that twice. Nicky is there at the beginning. How, why she got out into the field was as his handler and other blackstone operatives, I guess. And that is a story of a whole different color if that is even how it worked. But she was there with Jason at the very beginning.
i like this movie very much. Nicky/Jason pairing for me was better than Marie/Jason. As for Julia's acting, i thought it was very in-character, she did not give anything away which i think how it is really supposed to be. she has this flat affect that is just so consistent with the way she stares at him whenever she sees him; that is how she looks at him everytime from bourne 1-3. I like the way she keeps her emotions in check, as if wanting to say something but never really does. For me she acts that way because she is an intelligent woman and knows that at that moment in time anything emotional she says to him would be inappropriate.
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