Fw: 6521 HAZEL AVENUE

[Fareed Siddiqui]

 

Many of our fellow community members including Folsom residence are not in favor of going ahead with the 501 Levy Road at this time. I think if it was any time to rethink the about this project  now may be the best time to  put things in perspective  and measure all the other available options. Hazel Avenue property just happened to come on the market.  Even if  there was no Hazel property I would feel same way about building this project.  

 It is Allah’s blessing that we did not finish the project and we have a better option available.  

  please see my reason and explanation in letter attached 

   

Fareed Siddiqui 

 

Fareed

[Faheem Mazhari]

Assalamu Alaikum Fareed Bhai,

 

JazakAllah for  all your hard work and passion about the place. It’s clear to me you and all of us are looking to accomplish what is best for the community. At the times such as now, we are bound to have different opinions and with due respect, I differ with you on the location.

 

Islamic Society of Folsom: As the name reflects, was intended to serve the Folsom and surrounding communities. Shouldn’t it be the goal to provide a convenient location to the majority of the Musallis? I doubt there’s a Masjid in the greater Sacramento area that has the high concentration of Musallis that is closely around the current Musalla or Levy location. May Allah reward those who cover a longer distance to get to ISF and we all understand and appreciate that. Some of us chose to try to explain in the past how it wouldn’t be a convenient location for a individual family but it’s obviously a collective issue for very high majority of us who currently use ISF facilities. Inshallah let’s not call it a selfish preference.

 

What is the point of a big center within a 8 mile radius of Salaam center? If you draw a 8 mile radius around the Hazel property, you will overlap 4 mile on the west side with Salam center’s Musallis. And then we already have two other big centers like Downtown and Annur on West and Southwest side plus ISRC on the South. What we need is a big center towards East. I absolutely see no reason why 80% or more of Folsom Musallis or FCS Students and Parents (60 daily) should have to travel 20 minutes plus each way 2 to 5 times a day! And then we all know what a nightmare it is sometimes to get thru old Folsom downtown area.

 

We may have made some mistakes and it is taking us longer than we expected or planned to have a place, but let’s be honest. The real issue is funding.

 

On how we proceed on Masjid Bilal is exactly the discussions we are in the meetings and Inshallah we’ll find a solution.

 

Please forgive me for anything that I said above is not correct or is offending. Inshallah let’s keep our discussions on and Allah willing, we’ll have a Masjid soon.

 

Faheem

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[Fareed Siddiqui]

Listing agent is going to be available to show the property at 6521 HAZEL AVENUE at 9:00 am Saturday December 18th, 2010.

See you all there
 

Fareed

[Khurram Ali]

Dear Brothers Assalam o alaikum,

I would like to start by apologizing for not being as diplomatic as Brother Fareed or Brother Tamer have been.  The issues we are discussing are very important and generate intense emotions, as they should. It is not my intention to offend anybody but to voice my opinion as others have done. These comments are not directed at anyone in particular but at all who are participating including myself, for we will be judged not only by our actions but also for our words.
 
Then the disclaimer that my statements here are not reflective of the FCS School Board in any way, to which I belong.

I have been following intently the discussions on this bulletin board for a while now and would comment on two separate issues. The first is the issue about Masjid Bilal and the second about ISF being a Dictatorship.

With due respect to Brother Fareed and his contributions to ISF, I think time has come to vote on the issue about the Hazel property up or down. He has made a very spirited defense of his proposal and I commend him on being so clear and crisp about his idea. Unfortunately I am shortsighted and unable to see the merits of this proposal. I agree that the majority of the concerned muslims in Folsom may not like the direction that the Masjid Bilal project has gone, but totally scraping this project is also not what most people favor.
 
In my opinion the changes made to the MB project are a panicked response to the criticisms hurled at the Leadership. Alhamdolillah we have a place to pray and meet. We also have a school that is bursting at the seams. We have our day to day issues just like any other organization but Alhamdolillah we are addressing them as best as we can. Our Facilities reflect the community's commitment at this time and inshaAllah when the community is ready for a State of the Art  4 million dollar Masjid Bilal, we will have that too. 
 
I have no qualms in stating that the primary purpose of the Islamic Society of Folsom should be to cater to the religious needs of the muslims of Folsom. As much as we would like it to be the Islamic Society of Greater Folsom, there is neither a need nor a commitment in this community for this greater cause. There already exists a mosque or musalla, Alhamdolillah in all the surrounding communities that brother Fareed has mentioned. I am also not sure why the muslims in these communities will ditch there own projects to start a new project.  If there is an interest in pursuing the Hazel project on part of the other communities, I am sure this can be followed up at the leadership levels and brother Fareed can spearhead this effort if he wishes. I have personally, in my limited contacts in these surrounding communities not found any burning desire to proceed.

The other issue that I have with brother Fareed's letter was his contention that if we continue to pursue the "misdirected " Masjid Bilal Project, we should reimburse the people who do not want to continue this project. I guess my question will be, should we set up a payment plan or will they accept an " IOU ", because I am sure they will not accept credit cards ?. The people who donated their time and money thus far did so, I hope for the sake of Allah and not for the sake of a plaque on the wall of Masjid Bilal. If they disagree with this project proceeding forward to the extent that they " would want their money back" then they should refrain from participating further. This attitude of " My way or the Highway" is not constructive.

Dear Brothers we need to understand the difference between disagreement and dissention, between ikhtilaaf and nifaaq. Islam respects disagreement but does not in anyway condone disagreement for the sake of disagreement or for personal vendetta. There are many examples in Islamic History where religious leaders, despite not agreeing with the Political Leader/Khalifa, did not call on the muslims to rise up against him untill unless he was advancing an agenda that was unislamic. The comment about 70 percent of the muslims in Folsom wanting to break off and establishing their own community is incendiary and misguided. If 70% of the muslims in Folsom are unhappy with the leadership and the direction that ISF is heading in, it is time for them to stand up and be counted.  The people who are in the ISF leadership have proven themselves with their selfless commitment and patience and the Board is not a rubberstamp for one man's decisions as is being alleged. 
 
And Just because we do not have western style elections to elect the ISF leader and board, makes ISF a Dicatatorship? wonderful!!!. By this measure, all the Khulafa-e Rashideen were Dictators, MaazAllah. Can anyone tell me of one period in Islamic History where western style elections were used to select their leaders. Did muslims not establish the greatest civilizations ever where everybody's rights were protected and respected. Muslim leadership has always emerged from pious, dedicated muslims who have had a vision to advance the greater cause. Nobody is being stopped from bringing their ideas forward but this attitude of "holier than thou " needs to be reevaluated.
 
We need to take measure of what we have and not of what we do not have. Ask people who move here from Portland or Austin or other such communities and they always answer that the most remarkable difference is the unity that this community has, whether it is at the daily iftaars in Ramadhan or the construction and renovation of the present Musallah. And now all of a sudden 70% people want to establish their own community??. To them I will say that the name " Islamic Society of Folsom" is already taken. So they can establish the islamic society of west folsom or east folsom or north or south.
 
JazakaAllahu Kair for your time.

 

Khurram Ali

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[Fareed Siddiqui]

you need to send them a good reply to   isfm...@googlegroups.com    in favor of Hazel Project. We can discuss the content.  I will send you more emails to send

People in favor also need to reply, so every one knows not ever one in Folsom thinks like Khurram  

 

Fareed

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From: "azi...@aol.com" <azi...@aol.com>
To: Fareed Siddiqui <fareed....@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 8:08:41 AM
Subject: Re: [isfmasjid:233] Fw: 6521 HAZEL AVENUE

Fareed, this hazel project is not part of folsom, so the pursue this project as it belongs to greator part of Sacramento Area community. Trust me Folsom project will not completed during our life time. Loose no hope, continue the good job. Your intention is good, looking out for future generations need.

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From: Fareed Siddiqui <fareed....@sbcglobal.net>

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:06:30 -0800 (PST)

To: JAN MOHAMMED<janm...@gmail.com>; <azi...@aol.com>

Subject: Fw: [isfmasjid:233] Fw: 6521 HAZEL AVENUE

I asked this question on october 

[Abdul Hadi G.Pasha]

Assalaamualaikum WR WB,
 
Dear brothers, hope you / families all doing well. Wishing you all Happy Jumua (Eid-ul-Mominoon).
I have a suggestion - at least today, let us take a break from war of words from these masjid discussions.
Let us do dua to Allah (SWT) to resolve the issues with respect, dignity and love for Allah and His beloved messenger (SWAS).
 
I ask for forgiveness if I have offended anyone.
 
Ws
Pasha

[Faheem Mazhari]

Ameen! Let’s all make strong duas today for the unity of our community Inshallah! Let’s Inshallah hug each other today for the sake of Allah.

 

JazakAllah Pasha Bhai for the reminder.

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[Fareed Siddiqui]

I agree,   may allah Guide us all  ----   Ameen
 

Fareed

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